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I actually now think that PMO binging is dangerous?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by skaterdrew, Mar 25, 2020.

  1. skaterdrew

    skaterdrew Fapstronaut

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    I used to think guys were exaggerating when they said could PMOing actually be dangerous for health ext. I actually now somewhat think it is.

    I have hardly been on much porn or artificial sexual stimulation at all for a while. Maybe having the odd one relapse every few weeks ext.

    I literally used to be an extreme PMO binger for years. Having literally hours long edging, masturbation sessions while on hundreds of that content. Literally up to 5 hours PMO sessions before I was ejaculating and this went on all day.

    But obviously over the last while this basically hasn't been happening at all apart from the odd relapse every few weeks, and this has been the pattern for 7 months.

    I had really been noticing the difference in how I felt ext.

    I actually used to think I suffered from bad hangovers from alcohol. But it turns out I didn't actually suffer from that bad hangovers. It was because when I was hungover I used to go in to an extreme PMO binge that lasted the entire day, and it was actually this that was making me feel so ill and not the alcohol it's self.

    Last night I drank a half bottle of whisky. Today I was a little hungover, I got a hold of another family members laptop because my laptop is blocked beyond belief, and I went in to an extreme PMO binge. Two sessions that lasted about 5 hours.

    Now I actually feel ill, like a zombie, my head is seriously splitting, and I have really bad nausea.

    There is just no doubt in my mind binging on PMO the way I do when I binge is so unhealthy psychically and mentally. I actually now think this was a big cause of my mental health problems that I had for years.

    I already suffer with mental health problems. But over the last while it has been near bearable. It didn't used to be bearable when I used to PMO all the time.

    I actually think two things seriously messed my mental health up really bad. One was this level of PMOing, and the the other was being on stomach acid reducing drugs for years, lansoprazole, a proton pump inhibitor. I think being on this drug made me have nausea nearly all the time and made me confused. Then I also think the PMO binging was causing me to feel in a zombie state, confused, poor concentration, nausea ext. I actually used to think I couldn't see correctly, and I now think this PMO binging for years was the cause.

    See the thing is I think the odd wank to porn for 5 or 10 minutes probably doesn't do guys much harm mentally or even physically. Not that I am advocating it. But this binging on PMO is literally just obscene. My brain must be taking a proper beating when I do this, and it is no wonder my mental health is messed up for a while after it.
     
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  2. Gorgewalker

    Gorgewalker Fapstronaut

    The exact same is true for me! I think your alcohol use probably worsened the effects for you, but I also had a binge recently; a big one spanning multiple days. Each use made me feel worse. Now that it's all over I find a lot of truth in exactly what you said: zombie-like and confused. The brain fog is immense. Even writing this, I'm misspelling like crazy because I can't concentrate. Eating anything unhealthy makes me feel nauseous where usually I have an iron stomach. And this might just be me, but my skin looks awful now compared to a few days ago.

    I also echo your final sentiment, I have relapsed with a single PMO session in the past and honestly felt totally fine the next day - as if nothing even happened. But for me, I think anything over once a week begins to have serious health consequences. Of course, I want to abstain totally, forever, and I do wonder if going for a long time will alleviate my brain fog and such to a degree I've scarcely felt before, but the more often I PMO the worse the ramifications.
     
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  3. skaterdrew

    skaterdrew Fapstronaut

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    I think you should try to not activate those porn pathways in your brain. So even peaking or even masturbation alone will activate these pathways.

    I'm not advocating to peak at images, or masturbate to images ext. But something I find a bit dangerous about this site is I feel like basically everything is put in to the same category in terms of damage. Now like I said I don't advocate peaking at images or masturbating to images. But doing these things for a few minutes is completely different to jacking off to loads of porn and artificial sexual stimulation for an hour or hours. It's completely different to a binging session. The level of damaging is completely different.

    Honestly in my opinion if someone literally masturbated to a few images for say 5 minutes, I honestly think the damage from this would be very little. But if someone jacks off to loads of porn and content on the internet for an hour or 3 hours ext, then the damage from this is huge.

    I try to do none of it. But it also takes for me to have a bad relapse or binge to make me realise how good I was actually previously doing.

    I just wish everything wasn't put in the the same category. Guys on this would act like someone has failed if they relapse masturbating to a few images for a few minutes, or even if they masturbate on it's own. Well these are still 100 times better than long porn relapses or binges.

    If someone is binging on porn constantly and then gets to a stage they're relapsing for 5 minutes to a few images every other week then how is this person failing? This persons behaviour has drastically changed. But yet guys on this would still think the person is failing.
     
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  4. Gorgewalker

    Gorgewalker Fapstronaut

    I think the important thing is to keep making progress in spite of failure. So failure is subjective depending on where you are in this journey. If you normally make it 1 day PMO-free, but make it two, that's a success because you're improving. The relapse isn't a success of course, and should be reflected upon, but the extra progress made is great. If you normally make it a week but only make it two days, then you need to do some serious introspection on what went wrong.

    But let's not put too much emphasis on streaks atall. The important thing, in my opinion, is to take it day by day, every day.
     
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  5. 4eyedfox

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    I agree totally I have been on 3 streaks in a row first 91 days second 59 and my last of 61 ended today both times i reset it was like something just took over me, and immediately after i just felt like complete shit and was depressed. That being said remember that the peak of the mountain that is out of view because of the clouds could be a lot closer than you think. Do not fret just because we fell a couple feet down the mountain does not mean that you have lost all progress it jut means that you will have to work a little extra these next few days to not fall again and to catch up to where you were.
     
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  6. You need to get off the booze.
     
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  7. King silver 99

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    I do face that problem, but am trying to be strong
     
  8. I could look at a pic of a woman fully clothes and the urge kicks in. I sexualize the woman and porn is waiting in the shadow and is a full blown relpase than can last about a week. Anytime I spend time searching for anything sexual including normal pics I am in danger of falling back into my addiction. Same thing happens if i go out and look at real woman. To me it does not matter if I pmo 1 time or 3 times in one day. I still feel like crap. Alcohol was much worse for me, I make bad decision if I get drunk.
     
  9. nsb2019

    nsb2019 Fapstronaut

    Whats up with that? I'm way more liable to relapse if I'm hungover. Like all my inhibitions are gone.
     
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  10. skaterdrew

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    I personally think it is a combination of things that cause relapses to be much worse when hugnover from alcohol.

    My relapses are at their worst when I have a hangover from alcohol. The worse the hangover, the worse the relapse, binge ext.

    The first reason why I think this happens is I honestly do believe a hangover from alcohol massivley increases my sexual arousal. As I have just masturbated literally the entire day when I have been hungover before when I haven't been able to access any porn or artifical sexual stimulation online, and I have literally just masturbated, using my imagination honestly like up to 10 times in a day many times before, and probably even more than that.

    But when I have been badly hungover and have had access to porn and artifical sexual stimulation I have went in to insane binges, having like 3 plus hour PMO sessions before I ejaculate. I think roughly my longest is around 5 hours before I have ejaculated. But this sort of behavoir has went on all day many times before.

    I also think another reason relapses seem to be worse when hungover is because PMOing, and even just MOing make you feel better when your not feeling good. So when your not feeling well from a hangover all that stuff makes you feel better. But especially like edging, binging on all that content online all day, PMOing the entire day. I used to do that all the time when I was hungover and it did give me a lot of enjoyment, pleasure, relief and even fun for the entire day. I literally used to do this all day when I was hungover and order fast food takeaways, so subways for lunch, then fast food for dinner, an Indian, a pizza, a chinese ext. I literally used to lay about like a slob, plates and rubbish lying about everywhere and I was just binging on PMO all day and also constantly eating takeaways. Sometimes this sort of behavoir went on for days.

    The thing is I actually enjoyed doing this kind of thing for a few days. It was a very big escapism from reality. But after a few days I had enough, and then I did begin to feel really low about the whole thing you know.
     
  11. I feel just the same. Since my addiction peaked I couldn't be satisfied by only having orgams, I was also edging for many hours before that, and in some days where I really tested my limits with edging, I was feeling headaches. For me, such a strong relapse could last even for a few days, feeling extremely tired, having headaches and no desire to do anything, exactly as in a hangover.
     
  12. Reborn16

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    I must admit I feel the same way only when I binge for hours. If I PMO but it's less than an hour, I'm fine the next day. The only issues being the temptation to lapse again, and the unrealistic fantasies are reinforced.

    But if I go on for hours, it almost feels like I'm sick. In fact, one time I even got something like a head cold for a week just from PMO it would seem. Things like memory loss, dyslexia, fatigue, feeling like I have a temperature, and headaches. Even my sinus can become affected like I have hay fever, as if my immune system has taken a hit.

    Truth be told those are more than enough reasons not to binge. So why not once or twice a week for less time? I keep reminding myself - for me it's because porn takes my attention away from real relationships, and what I really find attractive. If nothing else, we can start with no binges and no fetishes. And one day soon, no pmo at all if that's what we want.
     
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  13. goodnice 3.0

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