Effects of erotic images without masturbation?

Ugh Jesus. That's exactly my point. Just forget it

 

same here

 

I think your question is very interesting, I'd like an answer. But I think no one understood what you meant. Is it really the orgasm that makes porn addictive ?

 

In the beginning, yes. Orgasm makes you addicted to porn. But after than you associate porn to the orgasm. So to get the orgasm you use porn. I dont know how to put it. but watching images of porn, will sooner or later make you relapse because it triggers the neural pathways that lead to porn. Hope that makes it clear to you.

 

Yes I understand that it can trigger a person, but putting this aside, that's what he meant, let's suppose it doesn't make someone relapse, watching would still damage our PIED recovery ? If there isn't an orgasm associated with the act of watching it. We We not saying that we want to watch, we are just trying to undestand.

 

The dopamine rush is not what you feel when orgasming, it is what you feel leading up to the fact, and before you even start masturbating, it is the rush you get when breaking your streak and decided to watch porn. It’s what makes you want to watch it in the first place. Dopamine craves satisfaction. It pushes you to want to orgasm and masturbate. It can make you shaky nervous and excited, but only makes you want to watch porn desperately, and usually masturbate. It is truly the addiction chemical. On the other hand, feel good chemicals like endorphins are released when you orgasm. if you don’t believe me just look it up.

From my experience, any porn eventually lead to masturbation for me, but even so, the times when I did not mo and just watched porn just increased my desires to watch it, it increased my desire for stimulation from it and desire to consume more of it. Watching and seeing porn can be addictive itself because it creates that excitement (dopamine rush) which feels good in its own way, not like the endorphin release.

so to answer your question directly, I think watching porn(this doesn’t include nudes because theoretically your interacting with a real life person that you’ve met and want to have sex with) without mo will be equally damaging psychology. Your views of women and everything will still be distorted. And your sexual satisfaction may decrease. All the risks are still there.

Additionally, you may ask yourself, if your actively seeking out porn not just receiving the unexpected nude, why you need to look at other people having sex in the first place? What is it for?

my point being, if your using porn to stimulate your brain, bring about that pleasurable rush of dopamine, then it’s still addictive and probably still going to f ur brain up.

 

Dopamin release shuts down with orgasm, it is opioid that is released. Porn starts the dopamin release.
Dopamin is the motivation and desire hormone, so dopamin motivates you seek more porn and preferably to masturbate along with it. The high you get of orgasm is the endorphins which is the opioid.