86 Days feelings of placid calm

Gliderpilot9 · Apr 15, 2020

Hey guys I've been through the urges of the first few weeks and conquered them by thinking rationally and not letting the lure of fantasy pleasure overcome me.

About half way through I had a few days where I could observe uneasiness and negative thoughts but I could let it pass without affecting me too much. This was accompanied by feelings of calm as if my head was empty of thoughts and i could just enjoy the night and the sound of cars on nearby streets.

While I enjoyed them those placid feelings went away and I felt pretty much the same as before nofap for the next few weeks. I have noticed however that when my thoughts drift to P I can visualise it for a second and then it's gone. Much different to at the start of nofap where I would have a full body experience after visualising a scene.

Now as I approach 90 days i can reflect that this time round has been easier and less external resources were needed to reach this point. (Previously I made 103 days before deciding the benefits weren't worth it).

Over the last couple of days I have had that empty head, placid calm return. It's less intense but lasts longer. I want to feel like this more often because it allows me to be in more control of what thoughts or feelings I entertain.

Stick in t here, when no superpowers are there just tell yourself how much easier it is to resist P and that can motivate you to keep going in the later weeks.

Cheers,
Phil

Raven King · Apr 15, 2020

Congratulations, Phil! Thanks for sharing your experience. I can tell things are getting better myself.

Amends25 · Apr 15, 2020

Gliderpilot9 said: ↑

Hey guys I've been through the urges of the first few weeks and conquered them by thinking rationally and not letting the lure of fantasy pleasure overcome me.

About half way through I had a few days where I could observe uneasiness and negative thoughts but I could let it pass without affecting me too much. This was accompanied by feelings of calm as if my head was empty of thoughts and i could just enjoy the night and the sound of cars on nearby streets.

While I enjoyed them those placid feelings went away and I felt pretty much the same as before nofap for the next few weeks. I have noticed however that when my thoughts drift to P I can visualise it for a second and then it's gone. Much different to at the start of nofap where I would have a full body experience after visualising a scene.

Now as I approach 90 days i can reflect that this time round has been easier and less external resources were needed to reach this point. (Previously I made 103 days before deciding the benefits weren't worth it).

Over the last couple of days I have had that empty head, placid calm return. It's less intense but lasts longer. I want to feel like this more often because it allows me to be in more control of what thoughts or feelings I entertain.

Stick in t here, when no superpowers are there just tell yourself how much easier it is to resist P and that can motivate you to keep going in the later weeks.

Cheers,
Phil
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Calm mind, peace in mind, and also a peace of mind...all worthy benefits compared to the mental pit some of us are in and trying to com out of...
This addiction things is kind of like a mind game, so the best thing is to aim for having some amount of control over mind activities rather than leave them to the dangers of curiosity and idleness...
Its best to keep whats best in mind all the time. Control your mind, control your life.
And you my brother are going to achieve that.
Thanks for sharing the experience

Napav · Apr 15, 2020

Congrats. Thanks for sharing..

LifeWorthLiving!!! · Apr 16, 2020

Gliderpilot9 said: ↑

Hey guys I've been through the urges of the first few weeks and conquered them by thinking rationally and not letting the lure of fantasy pleasure overcome me.

About half way through I had a few days where I could observe uneasiness and negative thoughts but I could let it pass without affecting me too much. This was accompanied by feelings of calm as if my head was empty of thoughts and i could just enjoy the night and the sound of cars on nearby streets.

While I enjoyed them those placid feelings went away and I felt pretty much the same as before nofap for the next few weeks. I have noticed however that when my thoughts drift to P I can visualise it for a second and then it's gone. Much different to at the start of nofap where I would have a full body experience after visualising a scene.

Now as I approach 90 days i can reflect that this time round has been easier and less external resources were needed to reach this point. (Previously I made 103 days before deciding the benefits weren't worth it).

Over the last couple of days I have had that empty head, placid calm return. It's less intense but lasts longer. I want to feel like this more often because it allows me to be in more control of what thoughts or feelings I entertain.

Stick in t here, when no superpowers are there just tell yourself how much easier it is to resist P and that can motivate you to keep going in the later weeks.

Cheers,
Phil
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You definitely point to the real battle here - in the mind. I find that the total avoidance of fantasy makes the biggest difference. It's like lighting a fire - the first spark can, in time, burn down the forest. The key is recognizing the spark and pouring a bucket of water on it when it is seen.

Peace!

Gliderpilot9 · Apr 16, 2020

LifeWorthLiving!!! said: ↑

You definitely point to the real battle here - in the mind. I find that the total avoidance of fantasy makes the biggest difference. It's like lighting a fire - the first spark can, in time, burn down the forest. The key is recognizing the spark and pouring a bucket of water on it when it is seen.

Peace!
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The sparking a fire analogy is so on point. If you stop the thought at a bud it won't grow into a full fledged flower. Also as the days rack up the fantasies take less and less control of your body.

PowerfulSRE · Apr 16, 2020

Congratulations mate! Thank you for sharing your story!

johnnythejohn · Apr 16, 2020

Congrats, mate
Never stop!

LifeWorthLiving!!! · Apr 16, 2020

Gliderpilot9 said: ↑

The sparking a fire analogy is so on point. If you stop the thought at a bud it won't grow into a full fledged flower. Also as the days rack up the fantasies take less and less control of your body.
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From my experience, its all about neurochemicals more than pornography. The image in the mind stimulates the brain to create a neurochemical reward. I used to fall from continuously going back to quick memories - split second thoughts that I consciously did, but rationalized as not doing because they were quick. But each quick thought was a sip of dopamine from my brain's reward center. Intentional image = neuro helical reward. If I did it a lot, my body felt out of control and I would get rid of the tension by giving in to PMO and pledge to fight the good fight another day. I was deceiving myself by setting myself up.

By framing up this truth in my head, that the fight is really about dopamine and not about porn, the battle became MUCH easier to manage. When I thought it was all about images of women I empowered images of women, or women themselves, over the management of my life. That put me in a difficult position trying to manage life, day by day. We see beautiful women throughout the day in person or in images where they are dressed, but still just plain beautiful.

But to say that this battle is truly about dopamine produced by the limbic brain reward center helps a lot. Many activities hack the reward center for the same neurochemical - overeating, risk taking behaviors, general internet surfing for continual brain stimulation through novelty, etc. ) Dopamine is good in measured amounts - it keeps us motivated to do what we do. But certain activities hack the reward center and flood the brain with too much dopamine. Dopamine is given when you eat a piece of cake. An overload is given when you eat half a cake.. You get the point.

When I get an urge, I try to stop what I'm doing and establish awareness of what is happening. I say "I'm under stress and my survival brain is trying to boost me up by getting access to dopamine. This is why it is starting volunteer intrusive images of women. This is not a solution but a greater problem. This is not an option. Not today. I need to address the stress. Am I hungry, angry, lonely, tired? What do I need to do right now?

This works for me when I choose to use it. My problem has been that I have chosen to ignore the fact that it works! Heading into DAY 7 today and my plan is to stay accountable to this online community and pass on what I discovered from my 402 days of freedom that I experienced when I first joined in the summer of 2016.

Hope this helps!

PEACE

Deleted Account · Apr 17, 2020

LifeWorthLiving!!! said: ↑

From my experience, its all about neurochemicals more than pornography. The image in the mind stimulates the brain to create a neurochemical reward. I used to fall from continuously going back to quick memories - split second thoughts that I consciously did, but rationalized as not doing because they were quick. But each quick thought was a sip of dopamine from my brain's reward center. Intentional image = neuro helical reward. If I did it a lot, my body felt out of control and I would get rid of the tension by giving in to PMO and pledge to fight the good fight another day. I was deceiving myself by setting myself up.

By framing up this truth in my head, that the fight is really about dopamine and not about porn, the battle became MUCH easier to manage. When I thought it was all about images of women I empowered images of women, or women themselves, over the management of my life. That put me in a difficult position trying to manage life, day by day. We see beautiful women throughout the day in person or in images where they are dressed, but still just plain beautiful.

But to say that this battle is truly about dopamine produced by the limbic brain reward center helps a lot. Many activities hack the reward center for the same neurochemical - overeating, risk taking behaviors, general internet surfing for continual brain stimulation through novelty, etc. ) Dopamine is good in measured amounts - it keeps us motivated to do what we do. But certain activities hack the reward center and flood the brain with too much dopamine. Dopamine is given when you eat a piece of cake. An overload is given when you eat half a cake.. You get the point.

When I get an urge, I try to stop what I'm doing and establish awareness of what is happening. I say "I'm under stress and my survival brain is trying to boost me up by getting access to dopamine. This is why it is starting volunteer intrusive images of women. This is not a solution but a greater problem. This is not an option. Not today. I need to address the stress. Am I hungry, angry, lonely, tired? What do I need to do right now?

This works for me when I choose to use it. My problem has been that I have chosen to ignore the fact that it works! Heading into DAY 7 today and my plan is to stay accountable to this online community and pass on what I discovered from my 402 days of freedom that I experienced when I first joined in the summer of 2016.

Hope this helps!

PEACE
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I am completely on board with this perspective. As soon as dopamine overload starts to happen, I feel physical effects: beating heart, tingling, etc. Here are two great resources on this topic:

https://yourbrainrebalanced.com/for...ousal-method-celibacy-of-body-and-mind.14525/

https://nofapsolideo.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/how-to-master-your-thoughts/

seven zero four · Apr 17, 2020

LifeWorthLiving!!! said: ↑

From my experience, its all about neurochemicals more than pornography. The image in the mind stimulates the brain to create a neurochemical reward. I used to fall from continuously going back to quick memories - split second thoughts that I consciously did, but rationalized as not doing because they were quick. But each quick thought was a sip of dopamine from my brain's reward center. Intentional image = neuro helical reward. If I did it a lot, my body felt out of control and I would get rid of the tension by giving in to PMO and pledge to fight the good fight another day. I was deceiving myself by setting myself up.

By framing up this truth in my head, that the fight is really about dopamine and not about porn, the battle became MUCH easier to manage. When I thought it was all about images of women I empowered images of women, or women themselves, over the management of my life. That put me in a difficult position trying to manage life, day by day. We see beautiful women throughout the day in person or in images where they are dressed, but still just plain beautiful.

But to say that this battle is truly about dopamine produced by the limbic brain reward center helps a lot. Many activities hack the reward center for the same neurochemical - overeating, risk taking behaviors, general internet surfing for continual brain stimulation through novelty, etc. ) Dopamine is good in measured amounts - it keeps us motivated to do what we do. But certain activities hack the reward center and flood the brain with too much dopamine. Dopamine is given when you eat a piece of cake. An overload is given when you eat half a cake.. You get the point.

When I get an urge, I try to stop what I'm doing and establish awareness of what is happening. I say "I'm under stress and my survival brain is trying to boost me up by getting access to dopamine. This is why it is starting volunteer intrusive images of women. This is not a solution but a greater problem. This is not an option. Not today. I need to address the stress. Am I hungry, angry, lonely, tired? What do I need to do right now?

This works for me when I choose to use it. My problem has been that I have chosen to ignore the fact that it works! Heading into DAY 7 today and my plan is to stay accountable to this online community and pass on what I discovered from my 402 days of freedom that I experienced when I first joined in the summer of 2016.

Hope this helps!

PEACE
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I can relate to this so much. Today is my 7th day of not fapping and it has been easy so far, but it wasn't like this all the time. I kept on trying again and again to stop PMO. Then I realised that the reason for why i kept on going back to it is because everytime I'm on my phone i do it, so I have ditched the phone and only use it when i exercise so I found an alternative and so now I only use the computer and TV for entertainment. Life is good since I have been on nofap. I can notice significant changes. Keep it up!

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