How do you deal with the bottle in your hand??…

VanGuy · Apr 19, 2020

Can’t think of any other way to describe this but if we were all alcoholics we could avoid alcohol.. but we live in a world where our addiction is delivered directly to devices which as far as I can see we have no choice but to use.. to me as a porn addicted person I am most vulnerable when I have to pick up my iPad and do some work or send an email etc..

The bottle is in my hand.. you have to go through the exact process to look at your email as you do to look at porn.. you literally uncork the associated ingrained habit bottle then have willpower to say no to a drink.

I would love to know how people have sorted this?… or plan to?
Lately I’ve been using my internet a heap more because of the self isolation stuff and the only thing I can come up with is to not avoid using it but to use it in a more positive way.. watching talks and technical things like how to fix my motorbike... but honestly lately I’ve been just having a quick look at that porn video that came to my mind etc.. it’s not going to well..
Anyone got any advice for this part of the problem.. the best way to practically use the bottle without letting the genie out?
Thanks ✌️

Wolf7 · Apr 19, 2020

Hey VanGuy, thank you for coming on this forum and being honest about your situation and certain shortcomings. The self isolation we are currently in is meant to keep us at our lowest vibration and our lowest point in life. However, that is not an excuse. You are the man and you have to treat your brain(addiction) as a child that doesn't know any better. Your brain hasn't developed before it was addicted so in certian aspects it is still like that of a child. It wants the instant gratification. That's why when you retain you look at the world in the eyes of a child more. You're amazed by the little things and so much happier and that's what we have to get back to. Now, you mentioned that you're on the internet quite a lot but that is your choice. You have to completely remove the social media accounts, you need to completely block the porn. If you dont' have a porn blocker I will literally send you the money for an entire year of any porn blocker you want. There is no excuse anymore for this. WE are the men and we have a choice in what we do. We cannot fall into urges any longer. We are the men, our brain is the child and it will follow whatever we put it through.

VanGuy · Apr 19, 2020

J707 said: ↑

Hey VanGuy, thank you for coming on this forum and being honest about your situation and certain shortcomings. The self isolation we are currently in is meant to keep us at our lowest vibration and our lowest point in life. However, that is not an excuse. You are the man and you have to treat your brain(addiction) as a child that doesn't know any better. Your brain hasn't developed before it was addicted so in certian aspects it is still like that of a child. It wants the instant gratification. That's why when you retain you look at the world in the eyes of a child more. You're amazed by the little things and so much happier and that's what we have to get back to. Now, you mentioned that you're on the internet quite a lot but that is your choice. You have to completely remove the social media accounts, you need to completely block the porn. If you dont' have a porn blocker I will literally send you the money for an entire year of any porn blocker you want. There is no excuse anymore for this. WE are the men and we have a choice in what we do. We cannot fall into urges any longer. We are the men, our brain is the child and it will follow whatever we put it through.
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Thanks man,
I did remove my social media accounts recently as I just see them as an ongoing problem. I was a gigging musician so was stuck between a rock and a hard place with the need to advertise gigs. I have decided to not go back to gigging after the covid thing and so was easy to get rid of at least one complication with this.
I tried a porn blocker in the past and had actually forgotten about that.. but honestly found the two I used fairly ineffective.. one was called k9 but it was causing problems and I can’t remember the other one. I have an iPad now and not a laptop so will look into what’s best to do with that now
Thanks for the reply

samnf1990 · Apr 20, 2020

VanGuy said: ↑

Can’t think of any other way to describe this but if we were all alcoholics we could avoid alcohol.. but we live in a world where our addiction is delivered directly to devices which as far as I can see we have no choice but to use.. to me as a porn addicted person I am most vulnerable when I have to pick up my iPad and do some work or send an email etc..

The bottle is in my hand.. you have to go through the exact process to look at your email as you do to look at porn.. you literally uncork the associated ingrained habit bottle then have willpower to say no to a drink.

I would love to know how people have sorted this?… or plan to?
Lately I’ve been using my internet a heap more because of the self isolation stuff and the only thing I can come up with is to not avoid using it but to use it in a more positive way.. watching talks and technical things like how to fix my motorbike... but honestly lately I’ve been just having a quick look at that porn video that came to my mind etc.. it’s not going to well..
Anyone got any advice for this part of the problem.. the best way to practically use the bottle without letting the genie out?
Thanks ✌️
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An alcoholic can order a delivery of booze on their phone. If they can resist, so can you. Maybe keep your bottles where people can see you drinking them, and let them know you are going dry.

VanGuy · Apr 20, 2020

samnf1990 said: ↑

An alcoholic can order a delivery of booze on their phone. If they can resist, so can you. Maybe keep your bottles where people can see you drinking them, and let them know you are going dry.
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Thanks for the reply, I hear what you're saying and I know you’re both right.. it just comes down to have the discipline in the moment regardless of the strength of the association of using the device for porn.
I did take j707’s advice and find a porn blocker which is waaaay better than the old ones I’ve tried.. it’s even blocking image searches on google and weirdly even things like comments on YT.. small price to pay.
I guess what a I was asking is just another excuse but what it reminds me of is when a I quit FB and Insta.. I went to go on the bank one day and opened my FB out of habit (and it wasn’t the first time).. once I realised how ingrained that habit had become I deleted the app.. easy.. so what I’m saying is you can’t just delete the app with this problem.. you need to use the device.. you’re both 100% right though.. it may make it harder but it’s no reason to make bad decisions.. thanks guys

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