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Morning wood explanation + Bonus ( PIED )

Discussion in 'Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunctions' started by dzigi, Apr 11, 2020.

  1. dzigi

    dzigi Fapstronaut

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    Hey guys, read whole post I think it can be very useful. Would like to share with you my opinion that was created by my experience. So when you have PIED many many guys lose their Morning wood. When you are on nofap streak your MW starts to come back. I think there are 4 stages:
    1. When MW appear here and there ( not consistent), not so stiff and goes soft fast
    2. When MW becomes consistent, not so stiff, goes soft fast
    3. Consistent MW, harder erection, stay hard longer
    4. Consistent MW, rock hard, stay hard for a few minutes

    When someone says that MW is not in correlation with healing PIED ( i have read in many posts) I don't agree,because when we suffer from PIED our MW disappear, but when we are cured I think we are on stage 4. I think that besides spontanous erection during a day, MW is the best indicator of your progress.
    One more thing. Some guys say that you need to rewire with real girl so you could have intercourse. Again, i don't agree because of 2 reasons:

    1. Imagine you are a virgin and you are kissing a girl for the first time. You are enjoying it and your D wants to explode. How is that possible if we don't have natural neuro pathways toward girls? If those guys were right who say that we need to rewire than in my example you would need to kiss girl for a fee days so your brain recognise it as something good and than and just than you would get erection. Doesn't make sense right? ( this was example if we were healthy, not suffering from PIED)

    2. Imagine you haven't eat for 7 days and than after 7 days you get a meal, your brain would be exploding from dopain because brain craved soo much of that. So imagine you haven't fapped and do anything sexual for 120 days, and than you are having good time with some girl kissing and touching. Your brain would be omgg dopamin would be skyrocketed and and also your fella in paints would be having a nice time

    I hope this helps! Wish you all the best!
    Stay strong
     
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  2. drkarim

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    That is right
     
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  3. OhWhenThe

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    I don't know the science behind it but all I know is that since starting nofap my morning wood came back and it came back strong.

    I was always of the impression that morning wood is hormonally driven but if that's the case then what hormones have changed as it's always stated that testosterone levels aren't effected bar the 7th day spike?
     
  4. dzigi

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    In extreme number of cases lack of morning wood is a sign of PIED. When i was on streak from day 76-90 i was experiencing MW everyday but it wasnt that hard. Before day 76 i have had MW like from day 20-23 than 30-31, on day 45 and from 61-64. At least in my case comeback of MW is a sign that PIED is vanishing
     
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  5. drkarim

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    sadly iam still along way before that level
     
  6. Nuallann

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    Some guy's don't get morning wood for a very simple reason, they wake up outside of the periods of sleep where you get erect. Nocturnal erectile function would need to be tested to confirm this, but it's more common than a lot of guy's think. I imagine guy's can go through periods of having regular morning wood, and no morning wood, all depending on current sleep patterns.

    I know when I'm waking up to an alarm clock, and not on my own I most certainly never have an erection while I get used to that sleeping schedule. Give me a few days to get into a new sleep pattern, and I wake up before my alarm clock, and I will have morning wood a few times a week.
     
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  7. dzigi

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    Interes
    Interesting. Before i got PIED, I was experiencing MW no matter what. And it was like a rock for a few minutes...
     
  8. dzigi

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    Just keep pushing, you'll get to that level don't worry. Never give up on yourself!!
     
  9. drkarim

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    no spontaneous erection to girls i really like and find them extremely attractive and sexy
     
  10. dzigi

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    Man, i was in your shoes. To be with a extremly hot girl but couldn't get it up, because porn created neuro pathways that we get hard looking at screen. You need to go cold turkey all in
     
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  11. drkarim

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    and will it work?
     
  12. dzigi

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    Of course it is going to work. Probably you will go through flatline and it is absolutely normal. Every each one of us goes trough flatline, because flatline is indicator that your brain is healing. It may seem scary sometimes but flatline is a good sign! Don't expect to be cured like in 2 weeks that is impossible. You need to be patient and go 2 month streak. It all depends of how long you had watched porn, did you escalate etc. Keep up and results will come
     
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  13. I'll chime in on my PIED experience. I've been doing NF for about 2.5 years though not always seriously committed. I had no MW at all when I first started. After a long flatline (65+ days) at about Day 70 of hard mode, I started getting MW a few times per week and some random erections during the day which had not happened in years. Now I get MW every single day non-fail and I've become sensitive to P-subs again (source of my current relapses). So it does get better but patience is required.
     
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    Yeah absolutely agree with you. Please tell me how long did it take to get to that level to get MW every single day without a fail?
     
  16. It happened slowly over a period of 2 years. There was not a single streak which got me there but I believe it was my dedication to hard mode which made the difference. P has been completely removed since I began. I still keep relapsing, but relapses happen only when I give in to MO, or to P-subs, which I find harder to give up than P itself.
     
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  17. I can't agree anymore with this thread. I've seen many people losing their morning wood because PIED.

    I also believe isn't a need a girl to rewire because ITS NORMAL to have solo erections.
     
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  18. A non-addict hasn't trained his brain to expect pleasure from PMO. His brain is therefore quite sensitive to feeling extreme pleasure from non-PMO sources, like dating, and being with women, and probably other things as well like good food, music, and exercise, because these sources aren't competing with PMO, which is far stronger than anything except for maybe drugs. An addict can't get any pleasure from a normal encounter with women because it pales in comparison to what he gets from PMO. So yes, it's true that a non-addict can find it pleasurable when he's with women because his dopamine receptors aren't compromised. Once the dopamine receptors are compromised, it becomes hard to feel anything not just with sex, but other things as well like food, music, socializing, and exercise. It's similar to when people eat only fast food everyday so they end up hating vegetables because they taste like cardboard.

    Having erections is not the same thing as being able to experience pleasure when being with another person or during sex. A person could have an erection but still not feel anything good during sex. The re-wiring is necessary to replace the old bad wiring of PMO addiction. When a habit is deeply ingrained, like in PMO or drug use, the habit can only be weakened, but not removed completely. The re-wiring is necessary so that any lingering triggers will support the new healthy habit, instead of the old one. Of course, if the person wasn't severely addicted, it's certainly possible the bad wiring maybe weak enough that no re-wiring will be necessary.
     
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  19. But the objective is to cure erectile dysfunction. I think if you still can't have an erection by your own you aren't fully rebooted.
     
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  20. drkarim

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    i cannot have it on my own
    not even while watching porn
    only by touching
     

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