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Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by youngandsuffering, Apr 23, 2020.

  1. llortaton

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    The truth is, you're not a creep, you're quite the opposite.

    If you look at REAL pedophiles and predators, you can see that they have no remorse no regret, no feelings resisting their desires.

    Your brain is basically scarred from stumbling across it. It caused panic in your brain, because your brain is so disgusted at what it's seen.

    You are 100% normal. Just, whenever you get a feeling about this problem, quickly think about something else.

    You... are... normal! :D :D :D
     
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  2. llortaton

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    Yeah, again, it's not even your fault, if you didn't recognize what it was. Because you closed it as soon as possible, that means you're 100% normal, dude.

    Forget about this. This is the governments faults at regulating the internet, holy moly.
     
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    Apologies to you OP, with this post I will end my short discussion with Robin Banks. This thread is not to argue, it's about you, however I see there is some ... not wise text written and it needs to be addressed.

    We have two groups of people here, pedophiles not willing to act upon twisted urges and people hating medical disorder. One group can control their emotional impulses, reactions from body etc. and stop them before it might lead to someone else harm and the other group can't. Group able to do that is better in terms of morality. It's not the slippery slope, it's the truth and everyone should be able to handle the truth.

    I will say again that those who can't control their impulses, those who harm other people because of those impulses should be punished. Always.

    Freud is dead for almost 100 years. Drawing conclusions about psychotherapy from Freud's work is like drawing conclusion about women position in christianity from Thomas Aquinas work.

    I am visitng psychotherapist for more than a year now and she never proposed to drug me or refer me to psychiatrist who would. I am astonished that you know every psychologist on planet and are able to draw such conclusions. Otherwise it is a sin to lie about someone. Think about it.

    Once again OP, i would consider visiting psychologist. Not to drug yourself... unless you feel that you need additional help.
    Sure you can also visit church if you are religious person. :)

    Once again, sorry for engaging in discussion with other member of forum in the topic which is about you.
     
  4. recoome

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    Therapy helped me, but it was my 2nd therapist. The 1st one was a psychiatrist who wasnt helpful.
     
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  5. youngandsuffering

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    Thanks for the advice. I'm getting better slowly and I'm starting to see it as just a horrible thing I stumbled across on the internet. I pretty much completely rethought my whole life and self. I will stay away from everything sketchy on the internet. No dark web. no regular pron. nothing.

    I might seek help at church. I probably won't be specific and tell them it was that, but I'll tell them I have a problem with porn usage. As after so many years of knowing about nofap I'm still not free.
     
  6. Passive-aggressiveness noted.

    I agree.

    However, I think most (not all) people who insist upon making this distinction -- while demonizing those who do not have compassion for pedophiles -- tend to have an agenda that involves normalizing sexual deviance. It was done with homosexuality and then again with transgendered person-ism. What's next? That's right. Pedophilia (or possibly bestiality).

    These types of advocates and activists do a great disservice to those with pedophilic urges who are trying to control themselves and not act on their urges.

    First of all, I was not "drawing conclusions" from Freud's work. I was saying Freud was wrong.

    Second of all, St. Thomas Aquinas had very wise ideas when it comes to women's place in Christianity.

    Which one of Thomas Aquinas's teachings, specifically, do you object to? I would be happy to discuss.

    Did we have as big a societal problem with sexual deviancy (as evidenced by the existence of this forum) in Thomas Aquinas's time when people took his ideas seriously? No.

    What makes you think you are wiser than Thomas Aquinas?

    Oh really? So who exactly did I lie about?

    I made a general statement about psychiatrists and psychologists. Obviously I did not mean they are LITERALLY ALL like that. Come on. Use common sense.

    I assume there are probably some Christian faith-based therapists and psychiatrists out there. As for the secular ones, they are attempting to help people with what are fundamentally spiritual issues without the help of God (and making money doing it). That is blatantly wrong if you ask me.

    And there it is. Telling OP it is okay and even "helpful" to drug himself if he feels it is necessary.

    Additionally, OP, this would be a good time to visit church even if you are not currently religious. I was an atheist for years before recently finding the church while looking for answers to deep personal problems I had caused for myself. If I had found the church earlier in life (like at your age), I would likely not have suffered and lost as much as I did.

    Once again, your passive-aggressiveness is noted.
     
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  7. This is not true.

    I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of pedophiles who abuse children have regrets and probably hate themselves very deeply. It doesn't stop them from raping children and it doesn't make them any more sympathetic or worthy of forgiveness than a pedophile who truly has no regrets.

    I'm sure if you got raped as a child you would be consoled if you found out the abuser "truly regretted his actions" (but he was still abusing other children).

    Forgiveness is possible for any crime or sin, but only with true repentance, which involves stopping the behavior altogether, taking responsibility (i.e. not asking for or expecting sympathy) and submitting oneself to God.

    P.S. I do make a distinction between engaging in sexual acts with a prepubescent child versus a post-pubescent teenager. The latter is simply a particularly egregious example of fornication while the former is an unspeakable crime far worse than murder or even rape.
     
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  8. I have no idea what CP means. But from your story I believe it got something to do with children/ underage. Anyway. Your reaction is completely normal for a mentally healthy person. What you describe is how a person should react. How you try to distract yourself/ deal with it is very good. Healthy. You're a good person!

    Thing is. These images might never go away. All you can do is to accept that and move on. Just the pure thought of it makes you sick is enough to keep you good. It is the same thing people go through when they go through war and tradic happenings etc.

    Allow yourself time to heal and repair from that. Then your body will do what it has to do and you can move on from there.

    You got this bro. And we are here to help you out if you need it!
     
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    Funnily enough I've just been banned from a forum for revealing one of it's users is a tier 3 pedophile and he has only shown the opposite of remorse. Ironically the username of the person that got me banned was "Saville"!
     
  10. youngandsuffering

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    It's been almost 4 months im guessing since it happened and I still don't feel good. I still wake up depressed everyday. I know it was an accident and I was just being a stupid kid and I never really understood that there are people who are into that sort of thing. The link said teen. Wtf. I didn't realize what it was. This world is too cruel.
     
  11. We do live in a cruel and ruthless world.

    But I would advice you to try and move on. Take it slow tho. Day by day. You got this!
    Allow yourself to take the time to heal but also, remind yourself that you can't keep thinking about it forever. That you need to let go and move on.
     
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  12. youngandsuffering

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    Yeah. It's just hard. I feel like my whole view on the world got fucked up. I just feel anxious and depressed all the time. I just need to let go, but I feel like I need to do everything I can so I stop making mistakes all the time. I can't relapse at all on nofap. I feel like a bad person sometimes and other times I just feel like a sad little kid and I just want to forget this ever happened, but I feel like I should tell my family or something but I don't want them to hate me or think I wanted to see that and they will stop talking to me and I'll be all alone and they won't let me do anything. Maybe if I told them I have a problem with porn and I'm trying to quit and I keep relapsing they will help me keep accountable and give me motivation and emotional support. I just want to be comfortable in my own head but this mind doesn't feel like home anymore. I can't relax. I feel like if i'm not thinking everything through I will make more stupid mistakes. That's basically my life. I just keep making mistakes and doing things wrong even when I try to do things right.
     
  13. youngandsuffering

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    I saw a post on reddit the other day about this guy that the same thing happened to him and it helped me feel less alone. He reported the site to the FBI. I feel very lonely in this. This shit is horrible. This is probably the worst thing to ever happen to me in my life. Anything else I could laugh off and still be mostly happy through my day, but this got me fucked up.
     
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  14. smallmao

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    Wow I feel bad. I thought my situation with fapping was always bad enough, probably my worst life issue... then there's NoFap...people who are sick with regular porn sometimes...scary it very is
     
  15. rodenig

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    Dont let your hormones hijack your intelligence.Write a journal for recovery in diary or post it in nofap..Your normal dude for this age you have to focus on creating a workout routine to keep you active.Read some motivational books always divert your attention from P.Focus on your studies and socialize with your age guys and girls.Dont be lonely.Hear some good music and try to control your urges for PMO take some cold shower.Confess your problems to someone reliable this may help you.Dont smoke weed and try doing some workout routines or even try to workout in gym.Weight training boosts your T levels and keeps you active throughout the day.You are a normal person dont worry and also dont feel low about yourself try to improve your self esteem.
     
  16. I see. Maybe you could report it to the feds. What I'm starting to wonder tho is, are you feeding these thoughts and feelings more than what is necessary/ healthy?

    I dont want to be rude but it sounds like you dont really let it go. And trying to move on.
     
  17. youngandsuffering

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    Thanks so much for the help. I haven't worked out since the coronavirus started and the gym closed. I felt somewhat normal today when I was at the store buying a wave brush. I'm starting to try and get waves. I've been brushing my hair a lot. It's a nice hobby and it'll help keep me occupied and thinking about something else. My self esteem has been lowered a lot. It took a massive hit.
     
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  18. youngandsuffering

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    Yeah that's probably it, but it's difficult to try and just move on from. I feel scared kind of and anxious. Like it's so scary how that stuff is on the internet. I just want to be alone and sit there and just play animal crossing and watch youtube and try and feel better. It sounds kind of dumb when i'm typing it out now that I think about it. It's like i've turned into a small kid again with the way I think and I just want to forget about it and do other things. I kind of have no motivation to do anything, but I'm getting better slowly. Now I know what real depression feels like. It's such a struggle for me to try and eat sometimes. Today's been a good day though and I'm not having too many problems.
     
  19. Thats how you grow man. Face it and learning to move on. Whichever way that may be.
     
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  20. I don't see a slippery slope. Why complicate it?
    IMHO :
    1. even pedophiles who act out should be treated with compassion and given help
    as well as every other human being
    2. pedophilia can never be a healthy sexual orientation

    funny note: I just quoted a deleted account. Let's see, can I tag him? @Deleted Account
     
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