P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

it doesnt mean that it means PMO = Porn, Masturbation, Orgasm

 

Sure will end . Dont care about those thoughts, at the moment part of your brain responsible for logical thinkings is in semi offline mode. Because this is how addiction change brain, and in withdrawal you kinda lose more your logical thinking until you recover.

Your phone is a trigger, I tell you from my experience 2 hours without your phone maybe not enough to deactivate a triggered state, maybe 48 hours.

 

Okay. So you're saying I should stop using my phone for 2 days straight?

 

If I would used my smartphone for PMOing more than often, I would consider buying a non smartphone, and use that non smartphone when I really need use a phone, or atleast use that as a phone some days on a week, to mix things up, helping my brain to forget the connection between smartphone + phone use + pmo triangle.

Trigger can be anything, like enviroment, rooms, computer use, life situations, times of a day, stress etc. More trigger you avoid, less symptoms you should face in long terms, in my experience.

 

I see where you coming from, but in my case I would usually relapse by watching porn on my laptop. To me watching porn on my phone felt way more underwhelming, but I still need to be careful though. So far I haven't had many urges but you always need to keep your guard up.

 

Day 75. Still feeling like shit, but specially in the morning. Had another wet dream last night. My 9th so far. This is really starting to irritate the hell out of me. It feels like I'm making no progress at all. Every morning I wake up feeling anxious and negative. I'm sick of this shit lol

 

wet dreams are normal thats what they told me in high school i you have a wet dream take a shower you will feel fresh avoid sexual images on tv and internet avoid eating to much at night avoid chocolate and spicy food

 

That is retarded. I heard those things so many times and I tried everything you mentioned but I still have wet dreams

 

I just wanted to make a note here that last week I relapsed after a 61 day streak, which was my second longest. During those 61 days I felt no difference in terms of inflammation being lessened, so I think I have "debunked" that theory that PMO/edging makes it worse. Just in my own personal story. Hope it helps someone.

 

Day 77. Had a wet dream on day 75 and another one on day 76! Not to mention that last night I had a couple of erotic dreams that made me feel like I was edging in my sleep. So this morning I woke up with the same numb groggy feeling as when you relapse. Right now I'm seriously starting to doubt if I'm making any progress at all. These fucking dreams seem to be holding me back. It feels like my brain is constantly taking a beating! Anybody else has dealt with this problem?

 

Great post. Thanks for sharing your experience. It is the motivation I need to get back on the wagon after my recent lapse.

 

For what it's worth, I found that once I'd got in to the mindset of not using P or even fantasizing about it for long periods of time in my concious mind, it naturally started to ebb away in my dreams as well, to the point where they rarely happen for me. I still have dreams that can be a little provocative, but they seem a lot less intense. I think this is just the result of repetition - slowly but steadily "de-pornifying" my brain until it's just less a part of my every day thoughts. It's taken years though, for this effect to really accumulate. Of course, it also helps if you're old and knackered like me...

 

For some reason I tend to have wet dreams on days when sexual thoughts don't even cross my mind. It's like my subconscious is constantly reminding me about porn every now and then. I know getting old may seem like a negative thing but being a porn addict, aging actually seems beneficial. I'm 25 and still have years to battle with sexual urges. Sometimes I wish I was asexual lol

 

really appreciate your post here

thanks for sharing man and happy you are finally getting better. I am 9+ months in so far and im still struggling a lot. It is reassuring to see someone getting to the other side.

 

Thanks good post, read all words!

 

Hi Don many thanks for this post, it's exactly what we need to hear. Thank you so much. These types of post is exactly what is lacking around here for long term rebooters.

I relate so much to what you say. The constant fight or flight stress response is exactly how it feels. I also randomly havent had a wet dream in a while, which is a blessing cos they make me feel like shit for upto a week. So good to hear at some point this stops and some sort of normality returns.

My intuition also tells me its 2 years to get out the woods, and then improvements for the next few years. I'm at 14.5 months and I feel better but still system stress, and brian throbbing. I think I will feel normal by 24 month mark, but no way this normal will be normalised and set. Upto 3 years sounds spot on to me

How are sexual cravings and fantasies, do you ever get attacked and indulged? Did you edge or fantasize at all during this time? This is my biggest issue at 14.5 months, the craving for sex fantasies comes

 

Thanks for sharing this! Great post and very reassuring to hear for us long re-booters

 

Anyone see my post from above and interested in sharing their thoughts? Thanks.

 

Hey guys, do you feel like you are extremely sensitive to NSFW stuff? I watched a movie with my friends and there was a glimpse of a half naked girl for like 3 seconds during a scene and my mind felt a serious spike of dopamine and this morning i feel so much brain fog and more depressed. Hope it didnt put me too far back, have to be more careful for sure

 

Thanks for another great post. And I can't agree enough with the comment about edging. I think this is the most harmful thing, of all the many PMO-related activities or "styles" of doing it. It depletes you and upsets the balance of everything like nothing else.