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PIED for 2 years

Discussion in 'Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunctions' started by piedhelp, Jun 3, 2020.

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  1. piedhelp

    piedhelp Fapstronaut

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    Hello,

    I am 31 years old. I stopped watching porn in May 2018 because I felt disgusted. After that Ive been in a flatline. It has been 1 year and am I still in a flatline and still cant get it up with a sexual partner. Ive seen 2 urologists and taken panels of blood samples that all have been normal. The Rigiscan monitor test was normal. The second urologist told me that it was probably due to porn and a connection mismatch in the brain. He referred me to a sexologist, which I have met. We are discussing hard mode and if that is not working, she is suggesting controlled MO, with and without GF.

    - Lost virginity late (> 18 years).
    - Been with few females, last one more than 5 years ago.
    - Started watching porn by age 12. Watched almost every day until last year. Haven't watched porn since I quit.
    - I get a bit hard when I fantasize but sill no erection with a female partner.

    I've gotten O with my girlfriend but I have stopped that now for 3 months. Haven't had any wet dreams since 5-6 months. Still in flatline and almost no libido.

    Do you think I can give my GF oral and be intimate with her without O? I've noticed that precum when giving oral and so on. I have also noticed prostate cramps/pain when I fantasize or get aroused (which I try not to).

    I've started lifting weights and running. Any other suggestion?
     
  2. Stupidbeginner

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    Jelqing kegel penis pump good luck
     
  3. oldpunk

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    @piedhelp I'm older than you are (43) and just in the beginning of my reboot process (41 days at the moment), but in principle my symptoms are very similar and have been for the most of my adult life. I get nocturnal erections, but apparently don't get excited enough to achieve erection with my loved one without using ED drugs (which work sometimes, sometimes not). There's physically nothing wrong with my dick or its blood circulation. I'm very sure that this is because my brain is so conditioned to porn. I am very determined to stay off from porn and masturbation, but I am going to rewire with my loved one as much as possible, even though it means I will need to use ED drugs. I cannot see how intimacy and sex with real person who I love could be bad thing for reboot. I have no idea whether I will ever heal properly, but porn surely has no role in my future anymore. Relapse is not even an option.

    About 8 years ago I was porn free for 120-130 days and actually started to see some positive signs (I recall I had succesful sex without ED drugs after 110 days), but then my relationship collapsed and I went back to my old ways. This time I will not fall in that dark pit anymore.
     
  4. oldpunk

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    @piedhelp I'm not really in position to advice anybody because I feel quite helpless myself too, but at least I think that having intimacy, kissing, cuddling etc. is definitely very beneficial. It helps you to feel connected to another person, both emotionally as well as physically. Don't think about your erection. I know it's easier said that done, but it's very important that you don't feel any pressure to actually have sex. Just go with the flow and enjoy the closeness. If you want to give her oral sex then go ahead :)

    The length of the healing process varies a lot between persons. Don't lose your hope, but focus on things you CAN do. We will win this thing, my friend.
     
  5. When did you last orgasm?
     
  6. piedhelp

    piedhelp Fapstronaut

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    I will try Kegels. Tried the pump, but because I do not have any libido, i doesn't really work
     
  7. piedhelp

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    Thanks man! Good luck to you too!
     
  8. piedhelp

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    Now it has been 2 months. I'm still waiting for the wet dreams. There was a time I abstained from O (in all ways) and the wet dreams returned. But then I O and they disappeared.
    I thought that this would go faster, 2 years with no porn is a long time. I actuality watched porn, like 8 months ago to see if it works, but it didn't, no erection at all. Well that really scared me.
     
  9. Coco99

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    Weights and running is a good start. Stress/performance anxiety may be the factor.I recently started working out as well, this is good for your testosterone and gets you in a feel good mood. I have heard some benefits for using supplements such as Maca, Ashwagandha but haven't personally tried yet.
     
  10. piedhelp

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    I do feel more energized when lifting and running, no doubt. I am actually taking maca daily. I do not see much difference but I will take it for at least 6 weeks.
     
  11. yup

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    yeah working out should help... otherwise maybe you actually are not attracted to the girl you are with? that would be my only other guess. anxiety maybe another thing could be in our head too much and trying too hard.
     
  12. piedhelp

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    I was also thinking of that but I cannot see a connection to anxiety at all. I just do not have any libido around girls. But when I'm alone, porn fantasies pop up, often about my GF and other girls Ive seen during the day/week/month. It is like I conditioned my brain for increase in libido when I'm alone, i.e it is used to PMO, when I'm alone. It is really messed up.
     
  13. The same situation for 5 years. I haven't watched porn 5 years, I don't masturbate ed continues and nothing has changed.
    I use ed drugs when it works when when not. I admit that I haven't tried hard mode for more than 2 months.
    After 2 months of abstinence, something improved but after a few orgasms flatline again.
    I gave up the relationship voluntarily I consider if I continue to force sex with ed drugs it will be worse. Now I'm trying a 6 month hard mode if nothing changes, in my opinion this shit is incurable and all this story with possible 90 day healing are just a myth.
     
  14. piedhelp

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    Ok that doesn't sound good at all, damn. I notices that my wet dreams came back after no O for 3 months. Have no been in flatline for 3 months and no wet dreams. It seems that we're in the same situation. This really sucks.

    Do you think that precumming from giving GF oral is bad?
     
  15. OhWhenThe

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    So despite being at this for 5 years you still haven't actually completed the recommended 90 day reboot then?

    I'm not at all downplaying what you have achieved by the way, I can only wish I get to a point of not looking at porn for 5 years but maybe you just never quite gave your brain that period of time away from all things sex that it needs. You say you saw improvements after two months but what I'm guessing is that you then took things too quick and this knocked you back into a flatline. Next time let things settle in for a while first and then slowly reintroduce sex, I think you will be fine.
     
  16. oldpunk

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    Before I started my reboot I actually thought about giving up ED drugs too and go for the hard mode, but eventually came into conclusion that the benefits of having real intimacy and closeness with my loved one outweighs the downsides. I love her and I want her, and if for now I have to use ED drugs then so be it. I very much believe that the feeling of being connected to her in emotional and physical level helps me in my recovery too. Also, we don't live together yet so I also get plenty of time alone with no orgasms. My plan is to use ED drugs for four months and then taper the dosage.

    There was a time when even ED drugs didn't work for me because I could only get excited about extreme porn or I needed a lot of manual stimulation to get it up. Nowadays I get strong erection just from being close to her and kissing, and my erection lasts very well. So just removing porn and masturbation from the equation has made things a lot better for me, but of course we have done a lot of rewiring together.

    I'm sure 90 days can work for some people here, but then again there are a lot of people who need much longer time. I'm currently on day 45. Even though I'm already seeing some little signs of progress I'm very much prepared for the fact that healing might take years for me. I've been heavy porn user for decades; things like that take a lot of time to heal.

    Never lose your hope, my friend.
     
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2020
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  17. It's normal in men after the 40s.
     

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