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NOFAP DOESN'T WORK-PLEASE ANSWER!

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Stanza, Jun 19, 2020.

  1. bigboibez

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    Yes. But you'll also be able to sexually function, which boosts self confidence a lot. Your natural libido should return. Although the benefits aren't complete euphoria, they're still worth it
     
  2. RogerFM

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    I think it majorly depends on your previous behavior before starting the challenge and what you set out to do. Many of the results people mention as more energy, focus, more testosterone, confidence and sexual magnetism, are all benefits from stopping ANY addiction.

    Does it mean NoFap doesn't work, of course it does, it really works if you have an addiction, which is a curse if its stopping you from doing something else.

    I think you must be in the same position as me, in which I don't have a porn addiction, I don't have any dysfunction, I can have sex or masturbate without porn, so the benefits FOR me would be minimal or next to none. But the challenge in itself for the targeted people its supposed to help, its almost miraculous. I'm doing my challenge too, but mine is for gaming, I'm feeling almost everything people here are saying are super powers.

    Stopping porn in itself isn't whats going to turn you into a man, CONTROLLING your urges and thus having full control and responsibility of your actions will, and that is priceless.

    Even though I'm not sure this forum is for me, since I came here to see if I would have benefits even though I'm not addicted, it most certainly for those to whom PMO is a vice.

    So careful with empirical knowledge, there are more vertices of observation in any study and you might not see them if you don't branch out with an open mind.
     
  3. angelpart

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    I am tempted from time to time, there are brief moments when my brain wants P, but it's rare. And now it's much easier (like a thousand times easier) to say no than it was at the beginning of a reboot. Most days I don't even think about P or sex.

    When I see a beautiful woman I get aroused and sometimes I get an erection. At night I often dream about sexy women, I think it's my brain trying to cope.

    But yea, in general I am much less horny now than I was before I started this streak. I don't think this is a flatline, I think PMO pushed my sex drive super high and now it's coming back to normal.

    It may be different for you, this is just my experience, everyone's different. And I think I have a pretty unusual relationship to sex and love ; when I have a crush on a girl I don't really want to have sex with her, in fact it's quite the opposite, it kind of lowers my sex drive, and I just want to be with that person, talk and engage in activites with her. Which from my observations seems very different from what most people experience. /shrugs
     
  4. Stanza

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    Yes, i understand, i think maybe only a little difference...
     
  5. xuwe2

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    One of the good things of this quitting process is to find things that add value to your life, either to distract yourself or to use up your newfound energy. So I think whether or not you are picking up new activities for nofap is not as important as the activities themselves. What truly matters is that you grow as a person each day, adding value to yourself, and getting rid of what is unnecessary in your life. For me personally, that is the true reward of quitting - Becoming a better version of who I am each day.
     
  6. Watanabe

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    I've not read all of the replies just the op so apologies if repeating. You say no benefits, but you're now part of the solution, and not the problem. The issues in the porn industry are well documented (trafficking people\children from their own lives, exploitation, drug addiction, disease, physical\mental abuse, violence) the list is endless. By staying off porn and on nofap you are achieving more than you could ever know, things aren't always as obvious or even knowable to us, e.g. what goes on behind the scenes when the camera stops. And a lot of benefits might require scientific or medical testing e.g. Brain scans or testing levels of chemicals in your body.
     
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  7. Stanza

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    Yes, this is the most important thing. Nofap for a better version of myself
     
  8. Stanza

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    Yea. I think that the benefits in your brain are strong but maybe i cant see them
     
  9. Stanza

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    Wow man. Yes i am in your same position. But i masturbated too much this year for a little "depression" and i am without libido. But i am not addicted.
     
  10. fedmom

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    It didn't do anything for me either. It will not get rid of a porn addiction and the idea that it gives health benefits is bs.
     
  11. Stanza

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    Why?
     
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  12. fedmom

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    Why what? There's isn't even any science to support nofap. Maybe some users are worried about going blind lol.
     
  13. Daxos

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    Gonna be honest here mate. I'm getting annoyed by all the guys that do not want to accept (or know for that part) that changes in the brain take a fuck-load of time. And I mean, I get it. It takes some time to learn all the theory behind NoFap and all the studies, but NOFAP DOES WORK. It has helped thousands of men, including me. What you are in right now, is a withdrawal period or flatline that just takes a very long time. Read some older success accounts. There have been guys that were in the flatline for months. Some guys needed more than half a year to fix everything. When you are addicted, the brain does all it can to keep that highway connection intact. It sees that neurological pathway as a means of survival and will fight you if you resist. That is what makes us 'dumb'. Our brain can not differentiate. All it sees is a systematic rise in dopamine from a specific source and goes "this must be some pretty dope ass stuff. I'm gonna build a hyperspace pathway for it so we utilize it the very second we even think of it".

    Now what contributes to longer reboot times?
    1. Genetics. Just accept it. We are all different and some people are more fortunate than others in some regard
    2. Are you substituting one addiction with another? If yes, then your reboot will be operating at idle and you will reach a plateau in which you only have small hormonal balances back that were specific to PMO-ing (like prolactin and testosterone), but your dopamine is still fucked
    3. Neurogenisis is a slow process. And you can hinder that process in multiple ways, some of which: bad sleep, I think caffeine (not sure), being a lazy fuck and much more.
    4. Inactivity. When your are not engaging your brain, you are not making the best usage of your brain. You need to fuel your brain with new thing to learn. Otherwise you will stagnate

    I really want everyone that is reading this to know that 90% of relapses come from ignorance. Trust me, read every article on yourbrainonporn and your relapses will go down significantly. I had the same. Once you understand the processes and what actually happens, it will be easier to cope.

    Honestly, 2 years ago this place was for learning. I don't know, but lately this place has become a forum for panicking and complaining. This sounds like a rant, I know, but you all really need to learn all you can first. That is step 2, (step 1 is accepting that NoFap will help you). I'm not lashing out to you personally. You just triggered this old veteran hahaha. I've become the grumpy old village man that yells at the kids.
     
  14. RogerFM

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    There are very little scientific studies on not fapping for the same reason t here are very little scientific studies and major publications on fasting. I'll leave you to use your brain and realize why that is.
     
  15. Daxos

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    I will give an analogy by the way. I just read some of the comments here.
    NoFap in itself is a very powerful tool. Some people say NoFap in itself is not enough. That's not true. It really is. NoFap is where it will all start for you.

    NoFap is the engine start of a fighter jet. Before the power-up, it is just a lifeless jet that is standing still, wherever it is. Just doing what it was doing since the last engine start: being empty and in 1 cold, dark place. But when you power up the plane (starting NoFap) you will feel the jet coming alive. Systems are starting back up and after learning all the buttons, checks and troubleshooting some potential errors, it is time to ride to the runway (this is when you start noticing your first benefits). As you are standing on the runway you are getting signals from the tower that you are up and ready to take-off and climb (you are getting more and more signals that NoFap is working and you are eager to take-off into greatness). By this time you had already forgotten that you could NEVER have gotten to this place if you didn't power up your jet. You are now thinking about what rate you want to climb at and how fast. The ignition of the engines from some time ago is already a thing of the past and you have succeeded it long ago (this is well after at least 90 days of NoFap).
    You feel good. You feel like: "I'm going to use the afterburner. It is time I go have some fun and get the most out of my jet". So you engage the afterburner and before you know it you are souring into the sky and climbing very fast (this is the point where NoFap is really bettering your life in ALL aspects). Right now you feel the rush of life, the happiness of a working jet that just took off with full afterburner. All you wonder now is: "Where Am I Going To Go Now?".

    NoFap is the engine start of that jet. Without the engine start, you were not going to move up and get into the air of possibilities and greatness. You would be stuck to the ground in a perfect machine, but a machine that was not being used well. A mighty and powerful machine that was meant for great purposes, but was left stationary in a cold hangar because you were afraid or whatever to take it out for a ride. The ride can be scary and you might get some errors or trouble in the cockpit, but you will solve them along the way. You don't want to turn of the engine during takeoff! (that would be a relapse). But once you get to the runway, ready for take-off, you realize that the power is there. You feel you can make it. You feel that this machine can take to the skies and really get to places. You just need to increase speed, pull on your stick (that was intended) and trust the process. And once you are far into the air (perhaps vertical take-off if you are daring), you will finally see the endless opportunities. Look at how high you've come. There is so much to do and see now.
    But all of this was not possible of you hadn't started the engine. By now the engine being on is just a fact. You don't give it conscious thought anymore. It is just their and stays on for as long as you don't turn it off. And there is no reason to turn it off. In fact, if you turn it off mid-flight (relapse), you will plunge back to the earth and lose all the height you had gained. You will fall hard into the ground and you will have to start all over. What a waste that would be.

    Did I mention I love fighter jets? Eurofighter Typhoon is my favorite.
     
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  16. WildPig13

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    I'm not quite sure how to explain this or if it even makes sense at all, but at least in my case and after having gone through several, and I mean SEVERAL two-weeks-or-less streaks, all I can say is that it mostly depends on the "setting" you end up at when you start your streak, how so? Well, let me dive a bit deeper into this:

    I got to notice that even though most of times I'd feel as usual (it is, all out of energy, not being noticed by girls at all, and getting angry for no reason) the following few days after stroking it, sometimes I would also feel anxious af and not even being able to state more than three words on a single sentence, seldomly I would feel on an unmanly kind of way and even fantazising about how would I look, dress and behave if I were a girl instead (can't help but assume that's where most of the so-called "submissive sissies" start at), every now and then I ended up stranded on the flatline right away, and finally my fave ones would start by feeling kind of confident, not caring about what people and specially girls would think about me (which ironically drew me a waaay more attention from them than usual), and that's exactly how I've started all of my longest streaks whatsever.

    Nonetheless, I haven't figured out what does it depend on, whether the "rythm" (so to speak) of your fapping, the stuff you're fapping to, your mood or something else, but that's something I'm not up to learn anymore since I'm committed to make out of my current one "the streak that will end up with all the streaks".
     
  17. If you are not addicted then I won't expect wonders. If you are addicted I won't expect wonders too.
     
  18. fedmom

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    I can't really understand what you're trying to say? Stopping masturbating will not get rid of an actual porn addiction. And there was a study on this and found it increases the chance of getting prostate cancer. Please see this link if interested https://www.europeanurology.com/art...esults-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
     
  19. RogerFM

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    Anyway, to summarize, ending an addiction is just the start, if you don't make your life worthwhile you won't get anywhere, if you stop porn but then become obsessed and later addicted to something else you won't go anywhere either. So basically, removing stuff from your life will never be enough if you don't add discipline.

    I mean, what are your dreams, your goals, do you work to be better today than you were tomorrow? Will you stop pmo to just do nothing? Well, you need to ask yourself these questions, its like if you have depression, medicine will just work to rebalance your brain chemistry but if you don't do anything else, what do you expect? The world is hard and you better become fit for it, the sooner the better.
     
  20. RogerFM

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    Prove me then that it won't stop porn addiction. I can prove it works, just read the successful stories on this forum. Plus it's a proven fact that for whatever reason, stopping the action or substance that caused addiction, eventually, will in the MAJORITY of cases cure the addiction.

    Also, seek other sources, from this article it says that although there is a connection, they aren't sure of what, they even say that men who ejaculate more tend to be more healthy.

    https://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/ejaculation-prostate-cancer-risk#1

    Anyway, I might be wrong though, I just pity all those monks who die of prostate cancer.

    Ps - Nice switch from, "It wont stop addiction to" something about prostate cancer.
     
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