P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

I am at 15.5 months (8 months monk mode, 1 relapse and some sexting) and have the exact same cyclic experience as @clapas I literally tell friends its like being in a tumble drier

Im feeling better today. Im 4 weeks monk mode since messaging a girl, and have a feeling this next 90 days will be good for me, theres alot of micro vs macro things happening. When I sext a girl for 4-8 weeks I can have symptoms return, but after 8 weeks when the symptoms clear theres still progress on the macro scale. Very hard to describe

 

The first 110 days were full monk mode. Afterwards I have had intercourse around 10 times.

I have also had around 4-5 wet dreams, but I've been 100% clean from P all the time.

 

A very good post from a reddit user. He had 2 years of withdrawals/flatline. He did hardmode. I feel hardmode is also the key.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Semenretention/comments/gbgimh/almost_3_years_semen_retention/

 

Thanks for the update man. I believe a lot of it has to do with semen retention as well since you have been doing hardmode for quite a while. I am reading more about semen retention and sexual transmutation esp on reddit where many users have started this along with nofap. I am also coming to the conclusion that holding your semen is very very important esp for recovering addicts like us at least until you recover. This is no coincidence that whenever I did hardmode during my streak, I definitely felt improvement in my symptoms.

My journey is normal mode with approx 6 months hardmode in between. 2 months before I recovered from PIED, and just 4 months now before I started seeing improvement in symptoms. I had sex thrice last week with my wife so my 4 month hard mode streak is gone. Normal mode is obviously continued for life. I would also like to report here that I did not feel my symptoms worsening after having sex but maybe I have slowed down my recovery process (in my opinion)

So, bottom line is that recovering addicts like us need to go hardmode AT LEAST until they recover. After that, they should understand and realize the importance of semen in their overall well being and that it is not there to shoot around for fun. I am also seeing reddit users having sex without releasing semen and having full body orgasms instead.....what is that??? If anyone has any idea about it or any reliable resource, kindly do share.

I am really interested in this because it matches perfectly with my religion as well and I intend to explore that as well. Maybe religion was right all along? What it says is that semen should only be released for procreation and should not be wasted otherwise. I always thought it to be ridiculous. But these guys are doing the same and reporting numerous benefits. But, I just don't know how is it possible? After learning more about it and practicing it with my wife, I shall share my experience.

 

I am very happy for you my friend, its a great thing that you are claiming your humanity back. It gives me some hope to think that my time will also come. I have experience small moments of happiness over the past 5 years or so, but i am yet to experience the pure happiness you are talking about. Something to look forward too at least.

I understand the feeling of never being able to switch off. The stress is there even if i have nothing to stress about. I also have agreed for a long time now that stress is the major cause of a lot of other symptoms we face. It causes your mind and body to be constantly locked up. Even now i get only brief periods where i feel like i can take a breath and relax.

Just a quick one, do you feel like your symptoms gradually got better over time? Or, do you feel as if a lot of your progress suddenly happened in a short period of time? I feel like i do not know where i am at with my journey. The worst days seem as horrible as ever, which often makes me feel down at the supposedly lack of progress.

anyways keep the updates going man, it so refreshing to see someone making it out of the darkness

 

I got the exact same the other week. Wet dream which prompted 48 hours of feeling fantastic before heading back to my miserable baseline.

 

Yeah, your case seems to be pretty similar to mine at this stage. I get brief periods of symptoms easing up, though there is no telling when these periods will come. A few weeks ago i had a few days of depression which i hadn't had in a long time. I do notice that when my morning wood comes back symptoms tend to get better. I am definitely struggling with cognitive function and like you i feel like i have made little to no progress in that area. Even writing this is more mentally demanding than it should be. I am very happy that you are seeing improvements finally in all areas. I guess over the next few months it will be time to leave all this behind and figure out what you want to do with your life.

 

Guys do you have stretches in your PAWS without wet dreams? What do you think is going on during that time. I use to have 1 every 14 days now i haven't had one in 3 months?

 

Could be because your brain is becoming less and less perverted, or in other words the neural pathways for porn are retreating

 

Yeah, I definitely have long periods of time without, and I think it's because I rarely think about, or see the kind of imagery that might "inspire" them. They are definitely becoming a rarity for me.

 

Small update: I'm at 180 days, but I still feel far away from "fully recovered". At the same time I can notice a lot of small accumulating improvements. I would be great to leave PAWS this year behind, but we will see...
Keep pushing through, you guys!

 

GOT 30 mins of your flatline to spare? Try this!



I came across it on Semen retention reddit. Some guy claiming it ended his flatline and some others commented and agreed.

basically the psoars muscles in your hip which coincidently run either side of your pelvic floor... they are referred to as the soul muscle and if they are tight your nervous system is in fight or flight. It’s got to affect pc muscle.

anyway I followed the video I was amazed the last stage your leg start jolting around and twitching. The longer you do it the bigger the effect. Also it seems to either exhaust my nervous system the longer I did it (I did it watching tv) either that or I’m in a new unknown state of relaxation. I can barely keep my eyes open!? Try tensing your pelvic floor after! You can feel the exhausted psoars moving against it!

just try it, I feel super relaxed and maybe a bit brighter after first go.

 

I’d just like to point out despite my enthusiasm and it being an interesting experience. The post before this regarding a exercise does nothing for my flatline / paws.

Day 86 had 2nd wet dream of the process last night and today I feel completely awful like I’ve been run over by a bus, tinnitus, depression, anxiety, shaking, Anhedonia - you name it I got it.

feel completely helpless and losing all faith in Nofap Hardmode. I feel much worse than when I started. It’s really hard to believe and continue when 86 day’s of mostly torture have passed. The thought of having to go two years plus of this as a single man in my own feels impossible right now.

 

Interesting. So far in my journey wet dreams put me either back into a flatline or put me into a deeper one.

 

Yep, it's not easy. But keep going - you are doing really well.

 

All I have right now is body parts that are stiff and acheful. Body parts such as neck, back, leg, feet... And constipation to the max even when eating fiber foods. Plus 24/7 of cracking joints.

 

I fell the same. I at day 83 and i don't feel good.

 

I’ve hit day 90 of Hardmode. I feel like absolute death. Found out my ex gf is seeing someone after a bit of stalking. Not exactly healthy I realise.

but I’ve felt like death for the almost entire time. Stuck in bed barely able to do anything. Thinking I may as well die.

read this post today about a guy surfing out of hell on around day 120. I sure as hell hope that’s me. I’m desperate.

 

Very controversial advice in here. I’ve been away from the forums for a few months. After my worst period of paws from dec 23- March/April I started to MO again. I’ve gone over a year without a release before and approaching 2 years no porn. MO’ing would bring back some negative effects for a week or so but after doing it sometimes several times a day, sometimes once a week for the past few months I started getting erections regularly. This has never happened before to this extent. I also have been feeling very confident and energetic. I went on a date and wound up having some hard ons, I’ve approached several women this month and I’ve started a new job with great results. It’s been about 3 weeks since I MO’d and before this year it had been over 3 years since I regularly Mo’d which was PMO. I kinda think that it brought me out of paws and jump started my libido. I think my nervous system had become confused by the fact that there was no sexual component to my life and I think it was very beneficial. Who knows what will happen from here because I am way too wary to say I’m free or I’m cured after being caught off guard by symptoms that I thought were well behind me.

 

Your obviously feeling good because of the brain chemical release of orgasm.

The more you’ve done it the better you feel it sounds.

The question that’s difficult to answer is have you cut your progress short ?

Are you desensitising slowly with your current frequency?

I mean I completely get you feel better after orgasming regulary. Of course you do.

it would seem prudent to find the lowest frequency of o that you feel good on to avoid De sensitising ?

does mo once a month cause desensitising?

hard questions to answer...

keep us updated if you can.