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Hands-free M with painful stimuli to quit M

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by RDW13, Jun 29, 2020.

  1. RDW13

    RDW13 New Fapstronaut

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    So, in an effort to stop M all together, I began trying hands-free M with an e-stim machine hooked up to my D. It is painful, but I have been able to ejaculate without using my hands. I was hoping the pain would be a deterrent to M too much. I think it has to some extent, but still have to M once a week to relieve sexual stress. No porn for me for 2 months and no sex for 6 months, but can't seem to go more than a week without M. Now I feel that the pain has become pleasurable. My brain is saying use pain to punish me for wanting to M and to stop the fantasy from running wild. Too much porn has also made me feel attracted to other men for sex. Now I don't know what to do to stop M to get past a week of the nofrap challenge. Any thoughts or ideas?
     
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  2. You shouldn't do that. You are linking pain with pleasure (your orgasm). It will rewire your brain to get pleasure from pain. And trust me, things will mentally and physically hurt you but you will orgasm to them. Please don't do such things. Quit doing this altogether, deal with urges, eventually your brain will realise that you aren't getting pleasure from such things, so, it'll rewire itself to normal condition.
     
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  3. You should never try such stuff without discussing your mental state with a specialist. Sexual needs are natural and you would hurt yourself if you try to stop them by some sort of trauma.
     
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  4. DrabToLight

    DrabToLight Fapstronaut

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    Hey @RDW13 ,

    MO is MO no matter the means you use to get there.

    I respect you as a person. Further, my goal on these forums is to share my ESH (Experience, Strength, Hope).

    One of my experiences is that I don't like it when other people co-sign my bullsh1t. So, I hope you appreciate that I am not going to co-sign your bullsh1t.

    Using an estim machine to attain orgasm is masturbation. I see masturbation as a normal and healthy part of life. During a hard reboot, I did not masturbate nor use porn. Once I began having sex with my g/f again, I only masturbated with normal and healthy thoughts in my head. I did reset my counter when I masturbated while remembering a particular porn vid.

    Using an estim as part of aversion therapy isn't going to work. The body of work of B.F. Skinner has been proven to be wrong. So, what you are attempting to do isn't going to work.

    Using electricity to orgasm isn't going to cure your porn addiction. It is just going to give you an erection when you pay the electric bill.
     
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  5. In case, you try this, please document your results. Exspecially if you find a way to reduce urges this way.
     
  6. RDW13

    RDW13 New Fapstronaut

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    Well, I can't say that it is a solution yet, but the urges are less so far. Just hit day 12 of no PMO. No edging either. Less fantasy too. But still my eyes are constantly looking for anything stimulating when out in public. So, I also have issues with self isolation and avoid going out - which can be just as bad a trigger as other triggers. It'll keep you updated.
     
  7. pump20

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    Well, I wouldn't recommend it at all especially if you are on semen retention because every time you're doing that stuff, you're releasing semen intentionally and you're going to get weak. Semen contains nutrients that your body needs. So quit it.
     

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