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Girl Friend's Addiction(?)

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by qq_kk, May 1, 2020.

  1. qq_kk

    qq_kk New Fapstronaut

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    Thank you, I do love her and I can see spending my life with her. I do hope she see's it postively and we're able to share that moment, as I'm absolutely willing to work this through and be there for her.

    To clarify, she uses it after we're done and when she's alone in her room. And we've been dating for over a year.

    I would lie and say if I didn't feel inadequate at times. In the beginning I would have such feelings and did feel bad, at the time I would rationalize it and say that she has her needs and try not to think about it. It did make me feel less than a man.

    I even started journaling my thoughts in those moments of anger. Orgasm is such a powerful release of chemicals and it's a way for couples to bond. The fact that she didn't share that with me made me upset and lead to resentment being built up. I did get over that on my own but it took time and understanding. You're right that for some partners it would be a deal breaker.

    In way that lead me to go on NoFap and better myself. The thoughts do creep up every now and then but I realize she probably doesn't know any better or her view on this is different.

    Most of the articles I found on female orgasm and using sexy toys encouraged it and made it seem like a normal and good thing. But deep down it never sat right with me. I knew the harm it had on me as a male and so that's why created this post and get more details and learn about this from a women's POV and hear from the community.
     
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  2. Psalm27:1my light

    Psalm27:1my light Fapstronaut

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    Ditto! Yup!
     
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  3. I meant it :) I think she's very lucky. I wish you best of luck with this. And the best of you both together.

    I got that from your first post.

    It happens. P plays on all our insecurities to exploit them and sell the product like most products out there. If someone admires someone else for whatever reason, it makes us feel insecure about us not being like that. In this case, some men admire the women on p and think all women would admire the men or peni on p. I don't think that's the case, but I understand the insecurities that arise from your partner watching p and not o with you.

    My ex is a p addict from a very young age and she never o'ed with me, but she did with p and only with p. This made me feel very inadequate as well even though I know I love her above everything and everyone and I a p addict too. Our insecurities are deeply rooted in our psyche and reinforced by damaging interactions and observations.

    I see you like a very strong man admitting to all this and fighting for the love of your girlfriend.

    That's so good!

    That's why it's such a powerful tool to imprint messages and sell p. It bonds your mind to the images and messages on it.

    I felt like that at times. I was very jealous. Just think she's not doing it on purpose. It's her addiction and brainwashed mind that can't reach without the usual overstimulation.

    You are incredible! I wish I had that strength of mind, patience and ability to understand.

    I think that sometimes. I think maybe it should break it in my heart to stop loving her. But then nobody is perfect and I love her. Is that not the most important thing in a relationship? I think the deal breaker for me would be if she didn't open up about it and if she'd have no intention to deal with it. But I don't know. What do my fellow addicts think?

    The love for my partner and the eager wish for her to connect with me truly led me to start and complete my first reboot too. I also wanted to be a better partner. Now thanks to my fellow addicts I realise I have to do it for myself. This is something I'm trying to learn about here. I need to know why to do it and learn that motivation of doing it because it will benefit me. Obviously, the better version of myself will also be a better partner. But that shouldn't be my main motivation. Thanks to my fellow addicts on nofap I realized of that.

    I still think it's such a good intention of you to come her and better yourself in any case.

    It's possibly her ignorance of the effects of p. I don't think it's because she doesn't care for you or because she doesn't think you are the best thing in her life. I'm pretty sure she does think that. You're a pretty great guy. I'm sure she's aware of that.

    There's a lot of narrative around that is so damaging to human beings. Always follow your gut instinct. However, if she wanted one, you can only advice, she'll choose to buy it or not anyway.

    I'm sure you can have more input from the community that you can learn from (I'll be learning too so thank you :) )
     


  4. If it bothers you this much my friend. I would suggest talking with her and getting her point of view. Even its time after time again. Trying to understand what her needs are and what she wants to be satisfied and fulfilled. To be honest man I think you are better and she needs to understand her problem and try out nofap. Your the one that is taking action in the relationship and she should find that attractive and sexy. Secondly sex toys are completely okay. In the past my past girlfriends/relationships have recommended it for me. If it makes me happy.

    She is the one with the real problem my friend. I'm sorry to say. Is it by herself? or is it with you as well? I guess my lat question is.

    I actually did have a girlfriend that watched some porn in the past. But she was actually using it to learn witch I could understand.

    I wish luck for you guys and take it one step at a time. See what works or what you two can work out for each other.
     
  5. Nobody is better than anyone. And comparing partners seems unproductive to me. She will decide what she need regardless of what we think.

    Only she knows what she finds attractive and sexy. There are no 'should's in what somebody finds that way.

    Our friend has said twice that it is by herself.

    If you are ok with p, what are you doing on nofap?

    To learn what? P does not teach sex or intimacy or female pleasure. What exactly did she learn?
     
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  6. Okay? Its up to him to answer and not to be rude.

    You don't need to quote my comments like with what I'm saying is completely wrong here from your point of view.

    Yes he answered for a woman's point of view but I have had a similar experience with a past ex and porn.
     
  7. What you are saying is not wrong. It's just different from my point of view. I'm trying to offer our friend, you and our fellow addicts a different point of view that might help. I'm sorry I made it sound like what you say is wrong. I might be me the one who is wrong. Or we might be both wrong/right.
     
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  8. Hello, @qq_kk! Sorry for bumping this thread out of the blue, but I'd like to share some links with you that may be useful for you and your girl. Encountering these materials made me admit that porn is the source of my problems.
    https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/ybo...-user/porn-problems-here-come-the-women-2013/
    https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/ybo...d-other-pleasures-when-moderation-fails-2011/

    And a success story to end this on a positive note
    https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/reb...asm-with-men-only-alone-success-story-so-far/
     
  9. Gently get you and your gf to start getting away from the porn and enjoy each other.
     
  10. SaiyanWarrior

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    No doubt about it, PMO is ruining your GF. It's not only a guy thing, it ruins women too. It almost ruined my EX gf. She quit PMO then she started recovering. Get her off this addiction.
     
  11. Main thing we need to remember is that people do not get off an addiction, if they don't want to. Our friend here can provide with information and the tools to quit, but he cannot make that decision for her or 'get her off this addiction'. She has to do it for herself.
     
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  12. PornSux2019

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    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3894744/
    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2016-04-anatomy-key-female-orgasm.html
    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/ca.22471

    I find it funny how so many people here blindly follow a person's notion of female sexuality that is literally based on no scientific research whatsoever. And then critizes you for trying to speak for all women and then tries to speak for all women. :rolleyes:
     
  13. Thanks for providing evidence proving my point. Keep trying. You'll never get there :D
     
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  14. PornSux2019

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    Sorry, I never get where?
     
  15. Not you. I meant those trying to achieve a 100% of female orgasms just with a penis.
     
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