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Why you should never drink alcohol- Not even 1 Drop

Discussion in 'Self Improvement' started by goodnice 3.0, Jul 3, 2020.

  1. whiteflag70

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    yes, please, stop the replies. Id rather not have a debate with people who cannot tell the difference between a habit vs addiction and lumps everything and everybody into one category. Apparently i have to live my life real clean, and cannot have any vices of my choosing because all vices turns into addictions. We don't need to be here, and we don't need to talk. Its obvious we have differing opinions. Only thing is i don't dismiss other's preference. Go join some religious cults, guys, you'll fit right in.
     
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  2. whiteflag70

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    No need to cover your message (and your hurt)with laughs. Obviously you are a fighter, and not in moderation, no? What do you constantly fight against? And maybe white flag signify surrender and acceptance. Only a person with a high opinion of himself would think that his definition is the "one and only" acceptable. And you know why you carry that attitude. I know myself . Do you? Whatever it is, I forgive you, my brother.
     
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  3. whiteflag70

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    Thanks, man. I was being civil. and factual. They would operate real well in a particular fundamental religion with their mindset. you don't think so?

    In fact, i dont think they were civil. It was rather rude of them with the "justifying your degeneracy" or just outright dismissing someone's opinion with the "stop giving excuses, i had a laugh" or the fact that their FACTS had to stand taller then the rest. What a load of patronising, rude buffons. Glad they decided to shut up and leave.

    Next time, buddy, if you're gonna come in and play peacemaker, try to take into consideration all that subtle rude stuff that goes on as well and address that too, will ya?
     
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  4. risingStar2020

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    Pooping and peeing are natural. Watching porn every day when you have a girlfriend, however, is not. A lot of people these days are postmodernists- that means that for them, anything goes. Everything is acceptable. All ways are right.

    Clearly this is not so, as you are here since you realized porn is not natural or right. Having sexual desires is natural, having sex is natural, being tempted and falling into temptation is natural. Is VR porn natural? Is having sex with a blowup doll natural? In good conscience, you cannot possibly say yes. It is a deviation from what is natural

    So what is natural becomes unnatural when humans make what is natural, unnatural. Humans distort what is natural, and after having done so, label the distortion natural
     
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  5. whiteflag70

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    Pornography itself has existed for centuries dating back to the ancient days so can we say it's not natural? but now, it is a mainstream problem because our brain was not wired for the content accessible thru high speed Internet and instant thru the hp/pc with multiple tabs, specific categories, specific scenes ie Super stimuli and all in the confines of your own room. The most accessible free drug in by the world. So say at one point, porn was natural, now it is just naturally destructive. I guess just cause its natural doesn't make it a good thing.

    As for sex dolls, i think maybe your grandkids generation, it becomes natural.
     
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  6. I'm not arguing over what is right or wrong. What is right or wrong is subjective. What some people do, you and me could see it as wrong others could see it as right.

    My point was what is natural for humans to do, whether what they are doing is considered right or wrong, it can still be part of human nature for them to do. I concede that the definition for the word natural is as False Promise states, but I don't see humans as being separate from nature.

    And it is human nature for people to watch porn, I personally don't think it is right. I think there is a public health crisis in regards to porn. But if someone wants to watch it and does not have any addiction tendacies I am not going to pass judgement on them although it is not for me.

    The whole point of this thread was to say never have a drop of alcohol in case you become an alcoholic. Yes, it is true that if you never drink that you will not become addicted to drink. But just because someone enjoys a drink now and then does not make them a degenerate alcoholic. It just means that it is not for you.
     
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  7. goodnice 3.0

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    Hey brother. The point was indeed intended to serve as a warning, because one wrong move can influence the rest of your life. For example, lets take a chain of events. I drink one time at a party for fun, this turns into a weekend routine, but then I become dependent on alcohol to make me feel social, then I become an alcohol, i become homeless. Alcohol becomes something I can't live without. One day, I drink and drive, end up crashing into a van, killing a family, sentenced to rest of my life in jail for manslaughter. This all started with one drink.

    Now, does this happen to everyone or even most people? No, ofc this is a rare example, but things like this do happen. And i agree with you that those who enjoy a drink now and then are NOT degenerate alcoholics. I don't think calling anyone degenerate was my intention. Rather I was trying to show that you don't know which one you might become
    1) someone who is able to enjoy a drink every now and then
    2) someone who becomes an alcoholic

    Since there are many alcoholics out there who suffer so much from the destructive effects, you never know who you might become. why not avoid that possible train track headed for destruction anyway since the possible pleasure from drinking every now and then cannot possibly override the potential pain and destruction from alcoholism?
     
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  8. Hey, I don't think you were trying to call people degenerates for enjoying a drink, but that is how others on this thread feel and I disagree with them and their judgemental attitude.

    Although what you say is technically true, I think it is extreme. It's like saying don't ever drive a car because there are so many accidents, or fly in a plane because it might crash. It is also true you will never be in a car accident if you never get into a car but most people don't want to live like that.
     
  9. 7seeds

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    But in this modern world it is very difficult not to use motorised transport and still go to work , buy food , find entertainment and education etc but it is very easy to live without alcohol or other stimulants . There are no negative effects on life by not taking alcohol or drugs.
    Also I could be walking on the footpath and still get run over by a vehicle .
     
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  10. Searcher78

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    Hey guys,

    As a devout Christian one could just ask oneself: “What would Jesus do?
    According to the bible, Jesus drank wine with his disciples. He even created wine out of water.
    He could have used fig juice or goat milk or anything else. But he did not.
    Jesus chose wine.

    So alcohol can’t possibly be that bad. ;-)
     
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  11. 7seeds

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    According to the bible I can rip people's eyes and teeth out and kill homosexuals .
    So that must be ok too.
     
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    I can 100% confirm what OP is saying is true. A lot of people will never realise this because of their mindset towards drinking, they think it's fine and "just a drink" a bit like how many people think porn has no detrimental effects. Anyhow I'll share a quick story from my own experience, I hope it can help...

    I've always drank with friends etc, done hard drugs in the past as a kid experimenting in my early 20s. After that phase was over, the only social drug I did was drink. I wouldn't say I was an alcoholic but I was basically a weekly drinker and sometimes even 3/4x depending on my current situation (being with the wrong type of girls etc) Anyhow early this year I had a small accident which basically forced me to stop drinking and smoking and it opened my eyes up to how life used to be. You enjoy small things because when you're on such a high it's very hard to enjoy normal life and normal things. It's a loop just like porn...

    Up until recently I didn't touch a drop of alcohol, however recently I have had some drinks and even gotten a bit drunk a few times and every time I've regretted it. It's a lifeless act and is one of the ultimate forms of escapism and to be honest I can't really explain in words how bad it really is. There is a reason it's legal and distributed for everyone, there's a reason it's known as "al-khul" in Arabic one of the origins of the word alcohol and it means "body eating spirit"

    That's all I have to say, don't do it...if you can control yourself and literally limit it to a few drinks on an occasion or something then fair enough but anything more it's no good
     
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  13. Searcher78

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    A devout Christian does not just ask: “What happens in the bible?” He rather poses the more specific question: “What would Jesus do?”
    Jesus probably wouldn’t commit the atrocities you speak of. He was more about love and trying out new stuff.
    He would not kill homosexuals. Jesus would sit down with them and drink wine. :)
     
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  14. gandu_

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    I'm not even Christian but this sounds ignorant xD
     
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  15. 7seeds

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    the point is you can use the bible to justify any point of view you want. You accuse me of me being ignorant and yet you cannot refute what i have said the bible is quite clear on homosexualty . I assume Jesus believed in the Bible .
     
  16. 7seeds

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    That is pure speculation on your part, Jesus could have made his views clear on all the more violent and cruel parts of the bible. he did not.
     
  17. goodnice 3.0

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    That's a good point, but I really don't think the analogy is the same! Being in a car or plane is something that you kinda have to do. Drinking alcohol is not necessary. I don't think you would liken taking heroin to driving a car or flying in a plane. I liken alcohol more to heroin or any vice. I am not judging you if you do it, but I just don't think its wise to do

    you literally missed the whole point of my message. I was talking purely from a practical perspective, but if you wanna get biblical, it is true that drinking alone is not a sin, but it is not wise to do.

    "Go, eat your bread with joy, and drink your wine with a merry heart, for God has already approved what you do." (Ecclesiastes 9:7)

    "Wine is a mocker, strong drink a brawler, and whoever is led astray by it is not wise." (Proverbs 20:1)
     
  18. goodnice 3.0

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    thank you for your testimony brother. Testimonies like these can go a long way in helping people... I have never drank myself but because I have read similar stories such as yours, I am keen not to make the same mistake. I am glad you have reached this conclusion and I wish you the best
     
  19. I tried alcohol for the first time as a thirteen-year-old if I am not mistaken. I didn't finish the whole bottle though.
    Then I was 16 or 17 and I had a bottle of beer two or three times also.
    The last time was on my 18th birthday although I didn't get it myself, I was kind of encouraged to drink it. I was like yeah okay, why not. It's just one bottle.

    However, I never really liked it. I just didn't like the taste. Not that it was unpleasant, but it was just not as good you know.
    Also, it was when I was 17, I had a beer in the evening and after that I went to bed but couldn't fall asleep. After 2 hours of not being able to fall asleep, I suddenly felt an urge to go to the bathroom. When I returned I finally fell asleep. This kind of made me like the idea of drinking even less. Not as bad as a hangover or vomiting but still kind of bothering.

    I have no intention of drinking ever again because 1. I know it is bad for me anyway - alcohol is toxic no matter how little you drink because it's literally a poison - and 2. it doesn't even taste any good, only makes me not be able to fall asleep.
     
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    Alcohol is the devil. It might feel harmless at first, but you get slowly used to it after several years and at some point it is in charge of your entire life. Not to mention that it causes the worst PMO binges ever.

    I live in a region where alcohol is easily available 24/7, it's cheap and society is totally used to it. You can buy it legally anywhere at age 18 and it's very easy to buy it even at age 16. In fact on many occasions it is even expected to drink. That might sound awesome for 16-25 year olds (including my younger self), but after 10-15 years of regularly drinking mixed with other addiction issues (like PMO) it will eventually own you and then ruin you.

    Now after 15 years of alcohol I'm so used to this calming effect of alcohol that I can't seem to quit. Hate it so much and after numerous attempts I don't know how to quit. I wish I could stay sober for at least 1 month but I have no idea how to get through it. How did you do it?
     
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