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Are you awake?

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Deleted Account, Jul 18, 2020.

Do you believe you are awake?

  1. No

  2. Yes

  3. Not sure

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  1. A question that has two meanings, but in the context of this question I mean "conscious" who here believes they know what is going on and consider themselves quite aware of the world and themselves?
     
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  2. Define what does exactly "quite-aware" mean and how do you know it's the case?
     
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  3. Well if you're on NoFap and stopped watching porn for good, you're actually free from the matrix which is to me is "awake"
     
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  4. I would consider myself to be consciously awake right now. I started my meditation practices since 2017. I feel as if my extra sensory perception has awoke. I'm sensitive to news now, ads, and whats going on. I can't honestly watch the news any more because its all the same "breaking news" nothing ever good from what I hear.

    Recent events of what's been going on in this world has just made me depressed a little bit. Just from how the way people act out.
     
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  5. I think awareness in a spectrum, but the word "quite" could be taken out. Awareness could also be an illusion so its hard to know.
     
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  6. Is there maybe more to it than this?
     
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  7. I get what you mean. I also consider myself quite awake, but also get the feeling that there is so much more to wake up to, reality is very dence and complex. Keep exploring
     
  8. I don't think we as humans can ever truly see it all or totally understand it for arguments sake.
    Do you think if we understood totally the laws of existence we could handle that? It would be to much for most.
    We can enter a state of awareness but who defines how aware we are?
    I think whats exciting with this journey of life is that there are always new things to be discovered and even when we consider ourselves to be woke is that illumination only on topics we have been told make us aware or woke?
    Or are these topics something we heard on a Joe Rogan Podcast? Again things we are being told or taught.
    Who sets the standard for self awareness where is the line.
     
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  9. I agree that we can not know everything about the laws of existence, there is just too much, but I'm not really talking about knowledge. I think it is possible to understand ourselves on a very deep level. To be totally aware of every sound, every feeling and the process of thought in the mind, not just during some meditation session that makes you feel better, but all day. Its also being aware of our motives, why we do what we do, how we say things and recognising our fear, anger, jealousy, the moment it comes up. So only we can define how aware we are. Listening to Joe Rogan talk about stuff is just entertainment, something to fill the mind with content, it isn't complete awareness.
     
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    I think you would enjoy reading Jiddu Krishnamurti, if you haven't yet, OP.
    As for your question, you said reality (or the truth?) is complex. There's nothing wrong with digging deeper into the enigma, but only that which is unreal can be complex. The truth about you is very simple, but cannot be spoken. You are it. That. One. But these words are nothing.
    Your 'human mind' is too limited to fathom the whole of you, but it's wrong to call it a limitation, so words fail me again. What I'm trying to say is that the 'limitation' of your mind is a Feature, not a bug. You are Masterfully and Magnificently narrowing your awareness in order to have human experience.
    You didn't come to Earth to be ALL or ONE - you're already that. You're here precisely for the illusion. Illusion of separation, illusion of littleness, illusion of complexity.
    So don't wake up just yet. ;)
    The game is vast and no one can lose.
     
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  11. Awesome yes I think we are on similar wavelengths.
     
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  12. I have just bought a book from Krishnamurti, haven't started reading it yet but he has some serious insight. It could all be very simple, maybe words are just getting in the way, Reality is just there and we need to see it as it is. Not as we would like it to be. This can't be described by words, its beyond thought. I think you get that :) Why should I not wake up yet?
     
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    Because you're here for the dream.
    Seeing the Truth would mean perceiving it, but in order to perceive you have to 'separate', 'dream' (seemingly). Reality can only be known, not perceived.
     
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  14. I don't think there is a separation. Krishnamurti likes to say that the observer is the observed, thought is becoming aware of itself. Its the separation that creates the conflict in our lives. I don't know this to be true because I haven't looked deep enough to see it, but I am working on it. Its truth through your own experience. Not truth because someone said it is and you just agree with it out of blind faith.
     
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    I'm not talking about truth in the context of Krishnamurti's area of interest, it was just a coincidence that I meantioned him above.
     
  16. I get that, but I still don't think there is a separation. The nature of reality can be understood fully. the problem is we are stuck in illusion (dreaming), the past is getting in the way of our observation of the present and with that we can never see something clearly for what it is.
     
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    The word 'separation' is in quotes because separation is impossible.
     
  18. Okay, I'm a bit confused. If there is separation, it can only exist in our thought process and where there is this division there is conflict. So this separation is ignorance.
     
  19. I also felt this shift when I started seeing times. Not just 11:11 but other ones each day like 4:44.
    You know I will and exploring is life.
     

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