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Live in a monastery temporarily?

Discussion in 'Self Improvement' started by magic05, Jul 6, 2020.

  1. magic05

    magic05 Fapstronaut

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    In August I have 3 weeks holidays and I'm thinking of trying some drastic measure in order to combat my 2 main addictions (alcohol and PMO).

    I have 2 options;

    1) To live in a monastery in the mountains (one weekend, one week, or even longer). No internet access, no phones allowed. Only being exposed to nature and landscape, voluntary praying and being in your own room.

    2) To go to a rehab clinic. Also no internet, no phones allowed. Plus doctors around you all day with lots of therapy sessions. Compared to the monastery there is much less freedom. You can't leave the premises without cancelling the entire stay and you have scheduled sessions.

    I'm in favour of option 1, because since several years I already wanted to temporarily live in a monastery for at least a couple of days (3-4 days) to ground myself.

    My therapist is in favour of option 2, because I suffer from alcohol addiction. Together with PMO those are my two weaknesses.

    Does anybody have experience with either of those 2 things? What are your experiences? What would you recommend? Did it help you?
     
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  2. Di.Do.555

    Di.Do.555 Fapstronaut

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    It doesn't matter which one you choose.
    What matters is your intention.
    Both could alter your life only if you truly commit.
     
  3. What happens when you decide to come back to a normal life?
     
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  4. WhiteLion

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    What order runs the monastery?
     
  5. Hey man, take a look at Vipassana. It is a 10 day meditation course that is quite intense. You live like a monk and learn what meditation is. Not how to meditate, but what meditation is, which is a more important question. It doesn't only help deal with an addiction, but gives you a better understanding of all your suffering. There are Vipassana centres all over the world and registration fills up very quickly. It's all done on donations so you don't have to pay although it is always a good idea to give something so that someone else can have a go. If you have been thinking about living in a monastery then this is really worth looking into.
     
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  6. To be honest it might work in the short term but in the end you will relapse again. I joined bootcamp over a year ago and I had a 4 month streak going on, but as soon as I got my laptop it was all over, the same old me came right back. What I realized is simply abstaining will not help you, you can be sober, but not free, it requires an identity shift, finding out who you truly are and what you stand for, way easier said than done, for me finding my identity In Christ is what I needed.
     
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  7. A couple of days, won't do you any good in neither of those places.
    Sadly, it takes a longer time.
    Months. And unfortunatelly few of us can affort to live in the nature for months. I mean time is precious, you probably have a job, family friends, you cant just ditch for months.
     
  8. cresyhorse

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    I personally know a person whose addiction God cured in a monastery. The persons addiction was heroin, he went to the monastery and prayed, fasted etc.

    I also know another person that had that addiction. Went to prison, to doctors etc.

    Out of those 2, who do you think has it better now?
     
  9. Fasting and self control "cured" their addiction.
    I'm putting "cured" in quotes, because addictions cannot be cured. (You can just stay clean from it)
     
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  10. magic05

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    Truth is, at the moment I have no ties and obligations at all anymore.

    I'm unemployed since a few days (thanks to Corona). I am forced to move back in with my parents at the end of July. I have no wife or children. The only thing I need is health insurance.

    Once I've sorted that out I am basically completely free for anything. I have some small savings that could support me for 6 months with the most basic utilities (cheap food). My parents know nothing about my addiction but I'm sure they'd understand and support me with another 200$ a month. My friends wouldn't have a problem with me explaining my absence. It will be embarrassing, but they would get it.

    I feel like this is a crossroad now. It's either continuing with PMO and alcohol, become even more addicted and either fuckin die/suicide in 2-3 years or end up in a psychiatric hospital or prison (the worse my addictions get, the more I tend to suffer from aggressive fits of rage and it might lead to legal problems at some point) or do some drastic change.

    My therapist said that first I should really go to rehab for 4-6 weeks to get in charge of my alcohol addiction. After that I can try isolating myself in a monastery. It seems like a very drastic measure. But it might be helpful to put my life in order. Both the rehab and the monastery would be affordable. But it comes with strict schedules/rules and if you disobey them, they'll throw you out certainly.

    My biggest worry is basically:

    That an absence of 6 months would mess up my CV completely. How would I justify that in a future job interview? Or do you think I could always just say that Corona made it impossible to find a job during this year of 2020? Might actually be the most appropriate year to do such a drastic thing of disappearing for 6 months from society, what do you think?
     
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2020
  11. Cathcart22

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    I think under these circumstances, that's totally acceptable to a new employer. Maybe just don't mention how well you did in that rehab to your employer!
     
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  12. I can’t speak for every employer or industry, but a 6-month gap during this global health and economic crisis on an otherwise good CV would not raise any concerns for me. Especially if you are prepared to comment positively about your use of this time, if asked. Good luck!
     
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  13. Well, I still think 6 months is a lots of time, and if you can, you shouldn't waste it. I mean you are young once in your lifetime.
    But, since you seem to have no guidance, and no ideas what to do with your 6 months and you can affort to move in a monastery , and since you seem to like the idea, you should do it.
    It will be hard, you will most likely fail the strict rules. If you do, and you get thrown out, you should immidiatelly find a rehab, and get locked up as long as possible. Because, if you do short terms, and return to your current lifestyle, you will be in this same situation again and again. You may waste your life with a short break from society, failing, rehab again, failing and you will get locked up in this cycle.
    6 months is not a long amount of time, if you can change your life for the better. Make sure, its 6 months, and not years. (Some people here in nofap struggle with pmo for years, and you have an alcohol problem aswell. Don't be like them!)
    Good luck with your monastery!
    See you in 6 months!

    About your CV I don't think you should worry. Be more generic, don't highlight exactly when you lost your job and when you got another one. If you can, blame corona, or whatever. Even your parents don't know about your problem, maybe your future wife won't know that you had this problem. Why should your boss do? (Who in fact, won't care)
     
  14. Michaeldra

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    Your short holiday will not be enough time to recover and will get back to old habits when you in regular life
     
  15. RubiconZ

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    I think you should take on board what people are saying here. The common experience with masturbation addiction is it does take months, but this action cannot hurt if you’re struggling to even break a week without the Internet. Go to the monastery, but bear in mind some monasteries are better than others. Sounds like you need one with some serious spiritual elders, the kind that there used to be a lot of
     
  16. magic05

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    Since many years (in fact since I'm 18) I feel like I'm one of those people who are in dire need of taking a very drastic measure to get their lives in order. I don't mind strict daily schedules. At least I've tried.

    In fact my PMO and alcohol addiction never got cured since my youth. So far I was able to conceal it very very good to the outside world. I got my high school diploma, got several jobs, I got my university degree, I got my first relationship/sex and basically nobody even witnessed a glimpse of my daily internal struggles (= PMO, alcohol, suicidal).

    But now at age 30, I feel like it is a turning point. I can continue like that and it will destroy me physically in a few years. I already feel the physical effects my lifestyle has taken its toll on me. My energy is drained, I have high blood pressure and only function throughout the day. I need a complete time-out. I hardly sleep, I'm almost broke, I binge and relapse every few days on porn and alcohol and I constantly delve into suicidal fantasies. This needs a clear cut.

    I wanna be totally isolated from society temporarily. I think a monastery is a good start. In the worst case I can always turn myself in to a hospital/rehab, but I wanna avoid it at all costs.

    PS: How do I find out which monastery orders are better than others? Based on what?
     
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