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Prostate ejaculation vs normal ejaculation

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by learning, Jul 12, 2020.

  1. learning

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    I don't doubt that I could become interested in trans porn and gay porn and other things that I have not allowed myself to investigate. The main reason I have kept those things off-limits is that I don't feel confident of my own masculinity and I don't want to risk becoming gay or a cross-dresser or a sissy or something - even as a sexual fantasy. I know that those things are o.k. for some people, but I was raised with a bias against those lifestyles and it would bother me to follow that path.
     
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  2. learning

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    Can you say more on how you feel? When I was younger I found that 3 ejaculations per week was my limit. Going over that limit would cause depression for several days. As I aged that limit became smaller until now in my early 50s a single ejaculation causes me to feel depressed and hungover for several days. Even one ejaculation per month does this to me.

    I don't hear other people speak of this type of problem much. Many people seem to ejaculate daily or several times daily without feeling hungover and depressed for days.

    I am not certain if my issue is the nutrients lost in the ejaculate or something less obvious such as chemical shortages in my brain triggered by the orgasm itself (as opposed to the fluids ejaculated). That's why I was curious about the prostate ejaculation. The fluid seems to be different, but also the feeling of the orgasm seems to be different. There is still a hangover for me after the prostate ejaculation, but it isn't quite as severe.
     
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  3. Prince6543

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    Yup. That's esmasculinity, problem from which whole world is suffering now a days. (Mainly due to feminization of society). You don't need to feed this wierd sexual fetish. That was just my perception of as to why people get addicted to trans porn or why they even watch it in the first place
     
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  4. SaveTheSeedofLife

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    I have lots of concerns about on how this is expressed as an advice. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but this is a total lie, its false and your advise is not an advise but an opinion. You do not become sissy overnight, or start having gay thoughts out of thin air. YOU are born gay- as a gay person you might discover things that you like and don't like, and that takes time the same applies to straight men. The prostate is the man's G-spot and his dick is not the only way to receive pleasure. He can receive the best orgasms ( which are intense ) by having his prostate milked.( stimulated ). Many straight men ( including those that are disabled for different reasons ) achieve a better sex life with their love one this way because they have no other choice due to a disability or they enjoy how it feels. They live a normal straight life.We are all human and we respond by human touch. Example; just cuz you went to get a massage at a professional place from a dude and you enjoyed it does not make you gay once you walked out of the place. The stuff you said is equivalent to that as the analogy I stated. For you to come up with this teenage ignorant thought is Insane. You are stating that everyone that gets their prostate massage will end up a sissy, start having gay thoughts, you be screwed and become a girl. I did not know we all had a gay button inside of us that you can turn on and off, really? like really?. Your thoughts are twisted and giving wrong information to someone that is seeking credible information is morally wrong. Just cause you saw it in a porn couple times and read it somewhere does not mean that is how its going to end up to be. Get it together bro!. Now if that is your fantasy to see some straight dude turn into a gay sissy ( that is never going to happen, straight men are born straight regardless) and what you WANT to believe than that is your right but don't drag others into a wrong falsehood. Peace.
     
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  5. SaveTheSeedofLife

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    It's natural, we are humans and we have things that turn us on. There is nothing wrong if you find a dudes or woman's feet attractive. Some people like nice looking feet while other like ugly looking feet. I have seen men with handsome well taken care of feet while I have seen women with feet that would make me throw up. Society has thought us that men are suppose to have ugly smelly feet and women are suppose to have sexy clean feet. But in reality, that does not apply. Its a double standard that society has created. We are human and we all suppose to care for our feet. Some find feet gross others find feet sexy regardless the gender. I see feet as hands, nothing out of the extraordinary. We are complex and its impossible to put something in one category. Porn can become a tool to feed your fetish but it will not develop it. This happened during your childhood when your brain was starting thing to sex and something happen to you that feet gave you happiness. The human body is a work of art and we are naturally incline to like what we see. Everyone has a degree of liking something from less to extreme. So if you like sucking toes, kissing, massaging or like to smell them or what ever it is. It is normal, just enjoy it and be happy, as you age the intensity will decline due to your hormones but you will still find feet beautiful. Your not a freak. You are human.
     
  6. Prince6543

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    Ahh. This is gonna be long.
    1. I never said it will make you gay. It just brain wash you into being submissive which also brings gay thoughts in brain. HOCD exists for a reason sir.
    2. You don't become sissy overnight doesn't mean it is okay to try it for a night. It's a slow poison in which death means being trapped into a dark porn world you won't be able to escape easily.
    3. For a physically disabled person, it's a completely different story
    4. You can try this with your wife. But you don't know where it can take you.
    5. Having your prostate milked by a professional is okay upto some extent. Once again, you never know when this become a extention because the arousal is very intense, and so are the withdrawal symptoms.
    6. I mentioned all that by considering that most people don't have a supportive partner or a professional to milk their prostate.
    7. Due to which they end up at Internet. And they try do milk themselves on their own. And let me tell you. You need a dildo to do that yourself. I have tried every other thing possible.
    8. All I meant was that it's really risky to try that on your own.
    9. And last, I'm not ignorant. You are the one who is ignorant enough to realise that you can be wrong too. Better reconsider your belief of calling a teenage ignorant just because he has his own beliefs that doesn't match with you
     
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  7. Prince6543

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    Foot fetish can be porn-induced too.
    It is a problem when feet are the only thing that arouses you.
    No one like ugly looking feet.
    Most of it are MEN only with foot fetish
    I see huh. You have no experience of foot fetish and still sticking your nose in it.
    Once again foot fetish can be porn induced.
    You have no idea how someone gets foot fetish. And I'm the one who is spreading false knowlegde. Huh?
    It is normal. But you can't spend your whole life at women's feet. So you have to put a limit to it at some point.
    Most people don't think so. Try shouting in a public bus that I HAVE A FOOT FETISH and you will know
    Peace.
     
  8. learning

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    Thanks for the additional info. It seems to me that there is truth in what you wrote and also some truth in what @Prince6543 wrote. I was not aware that the prostate orgasm is part of the sissy culture, but @Prince6543 seems to correct about that. On the other hand, you are correct that there are many other types of people besides sissies. I had only heard about its use for treatment of prostate issues in older men and its use as a different type of orgasm.

    I feel like I am somewhere between gay and straight, but I have consciously suppressed the gay side by studiously avoiding gay porn, trans porn, sissy porn, and even some ordinary porn. I'm 52 and times have changed, so I don't have as much fear of becoming gay was when I was younger, but I don't want to complicate my life by exploring those things now.

    But back to question in the OP: are the nutrients lost in a prostate ejaculation significantly different from a normal ejaculation, or is there any difference in the neurotransmitter activity that would support my observation that the hangover seems milder?

    (I've been curious about the nutrients, because I have observed that prostate stimulation sometimes causes retrograde seepage of the prostate fluids into the bladder where they are later lost in urination. It seems that a person hoping to protect his body from nutrient depletion would need to avoid stimulating the prostate even if there is no obvioius ejaculation of fluid. And the brain activity associated with a prostate orgasm might have the some sort of draining effect on the brain independent of any nutrients that physically exit the body.)
     
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  9. she-dernatinus

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    I've noticed many times how this thread brought a few disgraceful remarks about women in general. Even though males in sissy hypnosis are compared to women, this analogy is quite unfair and discriminatory. It has the underlying message that it's shameful to be a woman, and that anything related to womanhood can be bashed and disgraced. Which is kind of lame in my opinion, because women who have vaginal sex aren't reducing themselves for such. It is a natural act of copulation, pleasure and procreation. In contrast to the 'penetrative' sex in those sissy hypnosis videos where the penetration is used oppositely for it's intended purpose.

    As for the depression, I will only answer this based on my own experiences and what I already know about the male body. In the moment of the climax dopamine and oxytocyn are released into the body, the latter might induce a longing for compagnionship and leaves a void after the orgasm is achieved. In short therms, the release makes you feel empty and lonely. Since you have been doing PMO for so many years while longing for a positive female compagnion.

    I think those negative emotions originate from you isolation and lack of contact with others, espescially women. But I think you will be the one to confirm all of this.
     
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  10. learning

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    Surprisingly, it is possible to stimulate the prostate to an ejaculation without physically touching your body. Typically I don't touch my body for stimulation, because it doesn't seem to help in reaching either a normal orgasm/ejaculation or the prostate type. It's strange, but it seems that physical stimulation only makes the PMO marathon more grueling without actually reaching an orgasm. Instead, I look at porn and imagine various fantasies and tense various muscles in the abdomen and pelvic floor. Neither method gets me anywhere usually, but at least it seems less grueling over a 12 hour PMO session. Usually I give up from exhaustion with a day wasted and not even any sexual gratification as compensation.
     
  11. learning

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    Thanks, that is helpful information. Recently I have begun to suspect that an excess of acetylcholine might be a factor in my depression problem sometimes. I have been experimenting with an anticholinergic chemical which often seems to fix depression immediately. That's why I suspect acetycholine. All those neurotransmitters are connected though. For example the anticholinergic chemical I use is supposed to effect GABA indirectly. I have also wondered about PEA (phenylethylamine), because that neurotransmitter is important in both cardio exercise and sex, and I have used cardio exercise to combat depression most of my life.
     
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    It is certainly the main catalyst behind all of this. Combined with your body's natural response to climax and the chemical cocktail that follows it each time.
     
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    You need to prepare yourself both physically and mentally for that. I also had to quit everytime due to exhaustion.
    I didn't understand what do you mean by stimulating the prostate without physically touching your body
     
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    Ejaculation is same as masturbation. All the nutrients wasted are same.
    But the arousal is intense. This is also one more reason why it can arrive you to sissy and trans because the arousal is the same like girls arousal. Which makes men emasculine over time.
     
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    It is unlikely. Because I think it is a quest for novelty that triggers this 'type' of arousal.
    it's a maladaptive type of arousal. Nothing at all related to femaleness. It is not the same arousal we experience. Which is actually far enough from the submissive grooming it is mistaken for in sissy hypno. Being female doesn't require automatically desiring submission or humiliation.
     
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  16. learning

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    Basically rather than using a sex toy or your fingers to apply pressure to the prostate you can flex muscles along with breathing. Also the mental state seems to be crucial as you mentioned. I rarely succeed in reaching what seems to be a prostate orgasm, but it has happened a few times. Sometimes there is an ejaculation of prostate fluid, but other times there is only a feeling similar to a mild orgasm that can repeat several times. It is more mild than a regular orgasm and the hangover I experience the next day also seems more mild. But it rarely happens. It seems that I can't force it to happen. The more I try the less likely to succeed. And again it has only happened a few times. I am not an expert at all.
     
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  17. SaveTheSeedofLife

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    Again, all opinions and nothing proven. Now you guys know not to take Prince advice- his account is suspended for given out crazy opinions that do not make sense at all.
     
  18. SaveTheSeedofLife

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    Another lie guys. We men know that ejaculation is not the same as masturbation. Also the intensity of an orgasm does not make you a sissy. Another reason why his account is suspended.
     
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    Oh boy!, you sure talk a lot of nonsense you need to man up.
     
  20. yah you for sure do not know where it will end up with your wife, you don't want to end up getting cucked because she gets to into it or she might make you a sissy.
     

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