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Gary Wilson says some people are permanently damaged

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Hisself, Jun 26, 2017.

  1. Ricardo26

    Ricardo26 Fapstronaut

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    STOP SCARING PEOPLE PLEASE
     
  2. Ricardo26

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    I feel you bro
     
  3. Hisself

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    No
     
  4. kuijkuij

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    Personally I don't believe that...... Just think about those who had indulged in sex when they were young but finally got rid of it and succeed. Just read your history book and i don't think you really need to be more successful than them.
     
  5. Di.Do.555

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    I think that nothing is irreversible given the malleable nature of the brain.
    But some people need years of rebooting.
     
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  6. Ricardo26

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    I want to commit suicide to end all this confusion palpitations and brain fog
     
  7. Di.Do.555

    Di.Do.555 Fapstronaut

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    Don't.
    Billions of years went to perfect ur being. Don't waste it all in a moment of weakness.
     
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  8. thinking_differently

    thinking_differently Fapstronaut

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    Chill Man.
    Not everything he says has to be true, and it dosen’t have to be true for everyone.

    See what you feel about YOUR body!
    Believe in yourself.
    Don’t Fap.
     
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  9. sparkywantsnoPMO

    sparkywantsnoPMO NoFap Moderator & Yeoman

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    Hello,


    I’m sorry to hear that you are struggling. Rebooting has its ups and downs, just like life. We see many people experiencing both the ups and downs during the reboot, and though it may be hard to see now, these feelings you are having won’t last forever. It will get better with time, if you are patient and wait.


    In the meantime, please seek professional help. I know the idea of calling a helpline might terrify you, but in times of crisis, we often need someone their to put our lives in perspective. So please contact someone who can help and don’t hang up on them. The International Association for Suicide Prevention maintains a list of suicide prevention hotlines for countries all over the world. Also, if you don’t feel up to actually talking to someone on the phone, StopSuicide maintains a list of online instant messaging and chat suicide prevention resources.


    You are not alone in this. There are ways to treat depression. Please contact people that can help you. Being depressed often makes it feel like you don’t have any more options. But that is a lie. That is just the depression talking. These feelings you have won’t last forever. We are in this with you, and we will all be cheering for you to get through this!
     
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  10. SoaringEagle

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    Dude things will get better just hang in there a little longer!
     
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  11. SoaringEagle

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    I would take any statement of "never" and "permanently damaged" with a grain of salt.
    I am not sure if you are familiar with Eben Alexander experience or if you will believe it. But according to science this guy should of been completely and utterly brain damaged for good! Check out his story
     
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  12. cartmandaz221

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    630+ days in a flatline, never fapped since Nov, 2018 with all hormone/blood test/endocrinologist vist came back all just fine.
    I hope Gary Wilson was wrong.
     
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  13. Ricardo26

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    my longest streak is 21 days ;/ hope someday i make it to more days
     
  14. DGZ

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    If the dopamine system is fried... how do addicts continue to PMO I wonder? The dopamine is somewhere...
     
  15. Hisself

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    First, I started this thread long ago and I believe the statement was bullshit. The thread has seemingly been resurrected, not sure why probably just many fearful guys out there right now. The statement from Gary Wilson was not malicious, the point is that there are those whose recoveries are so long that we have yet to see them. This is still a relatively new issue(high speed Internet porn addiction and the dysfunctions that accompany it). Also some will never recover because they are caught in the relapse cycle and are further kindling each time and are not able/willing to leave porn behind forever which is the only way to completely recover once you have reached a certain stage of addiction and dysfunction. In addition, the wiring for all addictions remains in the brain forever. This is how kindling and relapse works. The pathways can become dormant but it will always be easier to slip back into addiction or sexual dysfunction if you tread off the path of recovery than it would be for someone who was never addicted. Lastly, some will never discover rebooting and thus will remain confused about their sexual dysfunction and other issues and will continue to pmo and assume that the problem lies somewhere else. If your first insight into sexuality was through porn no amount of rebooting will change that fact. That does not mean that you can’t have a normal and healthy sex life relative to your dysfunctional porn life. Besides all that your question misunderstands how addiction works, your dopamine is not “fried”, your dopamine receptors are desensitized and require escalation to achieve the dopamine required for pleasure. This escalation can come in many forms, multiple porn tabs, fast forwarding and jumping scenes, longer pmo sessions, multiple pmo sessions, more shocking material, combining pmo with other drugs.. etc also some people have pied so severely that they cannot get it up even with porn. I was one of them and I recovered.
     
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  16. Hisself

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    I’m the creator of this thread and have since recovered. I was in a similar situation and needed to jump start my libido by incorporating orgasms back into my life. Orgasms without porn that is.
     
  17. Let's see if a Porn Addict go in the forest for 6 months without internet and tecnologies. He will heal or will be a me just MO addict. Honestly i think that he understand he does not really need it for his life.

    What Wilson mean on "permanently" is for people constantly in iternet that cannot understand their addiction.
     
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  18. Did you use your eyes for read? I writed that if a Porn addict go in the forest without internet or tecnologies he will heal from the Addiction he had or became a Masturbation with Orgasm (MO) addict.
     
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  19. cartmandaz221

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    would you mind sharing more details about your recovery? private message is fine.
    Thanks
     
  20. How much time did it take you to recover from pied?
     

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