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Why do some people keep reinforcing that porn is not bad?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by ahighertruth, Jul 28, 2020.

  1. Jarad999

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    Guys can you help me

    I dont know if i relapsed or resetted because this night i was having a wet dream then that wet dream got cancelled but another wet dream appeared but idk if i fantasize'd it or dreamed it..
    Because when i woke my semen just gone out hard i felt it in my underpants

    So my question is does fantasizing P is a relapse
     
  2. Jarad999

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    Btw im on day 19
     
  3. Don't worry, big guy. You are fine. Not much we can do about our dreams. Keep up your good efforts.
     
  4. Jarad999

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    Thank you so much!

    Wait, so im not relapsed or resetted right?
    Because rn im having a feeling where i've lost so many things and feeling hopeless or like i feel i failed, but i know this feeling because back when i was on my 29th day and had a wet dream(didin't know what a wet dream was) and woke up in the next day i had this feeling.. i was so scared that i thought i lost.

    I cried, punched a wall and having a mental breakdown. Thats what im really feeling right now, i'm feeling like PMO'ing but i can handle it. The question is..

    I haven't relapsed or got resetted right?
     
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  5. PerseveranceToday

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    Hot take incoming: "NoFap" is a polluted term. The same way "feminist" no longer means supporting women's rights but instead hating men, NoFap in the common understanding no longer means the belief that porn is addictive but the belief not jerking off will give you superpowers on par with Odin and Thor.

    But the same way the term egalitarian has come to mean what feminism used to, maybe we can think of a new term for being porn-science positive?
     
  6. In my opinion, no. But your opinion is the most important here.
    Please understand: 100 days or 1 day is not the issue. What did you learn? Are you determined to keep trying?
    If you actually get violent (eg punching a wall) the issue is more complex. I believe talking to a trusted person about your anger would help you a lot. Or do some reading online about anger. Anger can be good, but you cannot let it be used to hurt yourself, others, or things around you, got it?
    You are human and have nothing to be ashamed of. You are just dealing with a lot right now. Slow down and educate yourself. You can do it.
     
  7. Funny. All the feminists I know are in very happy marriages, raise loving children, and support their communities and have never displayed an iota of hate for anyone. Ah, I guess I do not know the right feminists.
     
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  8. They're either ignorant or shills. Or are happy being degenerates.
     
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  9. PerseveranceToday

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    I wasn't saying that was the truth, buddy. My whole point was how it really isn't. It's how the public perceives it.
     
  10. PerseveranceToday

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    I wasn't saying that was the truth, buddy. My whole point was how it really isn't. It's how the public perceives it.
     
  11. Why do some people keep reinforcing that porn is not bad?

    More than 99.9% of people in the world are not on nofap, being extremely generous its only the 0.01% of people that share here the, for all we know very rare problems that porn has given us.

    so our opinions here on NoFap that porn is bad, is likely ignorantly biased and quite possibly doesnt relate to 99.9% of people.
     
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  12. Jarad999

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    thanks for your help, man

    I'm trying to generate new hobbys and good habits and maybe excersise more often. So the counter doesn't really really matter, It's just there to tell you that you've gotten this far In your journey, what have you learned, etc.

    What I've learned so far Is alot and made a bunch of strategies. and thanks again for your replies mate, I really appreciate it. You really told me a bunch of things I haven't noticed and understanded. Thanks again.
     
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  13. Anytime, brother. Just believe in yourself. Never quit.
     
  14. Why even bring it up
     
  15. PerseveranceToday

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    Because it's the best analogue of what's happened to NoFap. A few bad actors changing the public perception so that everyone thinks we're a bunch of loonies. I said this in my first post here, in response to OP talking about how looking up NoFap leads to seeing people making fun of it.
     
  16. Anti-Hero

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    Just found this: "Acceptance and Commitment Therapy for Pornography"
    [​IMG]
     
  17. Anti-Hero

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    More like "Coommitment" am I right? ;)
     
  18. Alternate title: "Why do some people have an opinion that I disagree with?"

    Your first mistake is assuming we all agree that porn is objectively a bad thing. It's not.
     
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  19. Anti-Hero

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    It is.
     
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  20. BrokenWing

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    I know this kind of behaviour.. but in another context:
    Living as a vegetarian.

    I never tell people that I don't eat meat. Most of the times they ask me about it. For example at a restaurant: I'm ordering something without meat. Someone's asking:
    "What's that? You don't eat meat?"
    "Yes, that's true."
    "But why?"
    "Because I don't think that it's healthy. Neither for me, the animals or our environment"
    "You are crazy! Meat is very healthy, you need to eat it! And the effects on the environment aren't that bad at all! You lunatic vegetarians"

    I know, this is another subject, but the behaviour is very similar. These people often know very well, that a reduction or an abandonment of P (or meat in my example) would be healthy and good. But they want to justify their own bad behaviour with this negative talk.

    They don't want to admit that "these crazy people" could be so very right with their choices. It's far more comfortable to stay with their poisonous attitude.
     

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