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Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Alyssap4391, Aug 15, 2020.

  1. Alyssap4391

    Alyssap4391 Fapstronaut

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    Long story short I’ve been dating a PA for a year now, and after finding out how badly he’s been lying to me after rebooting this past month has destroyed me. But here’s a weird part I’m not comprehending....
    When admitting to me the next day after PMO, he admitted to scrolling through reddit and redgifs etc anywhere from 2-15 mins a day. Even if I was in the other room or ran to the gas station for 5 mins.
    How many PA here are that addicted to where they just need to scroll models or nsfw a couple times through out a day with no intention of MO?!
    Is this prepping yourself for something later? (We normally have a pretty healthy often sex life). I mean one day for example was while 4 kids were in the house, but he was alone in the couch, and couldn’t help himself for 5 mins when he was alone in a house full of people on the living room couch, and just felt the need to scroll while taking care of our 5 month old son.
    why?! Please help me understand is this really part of the addiction or is this deeper? How concerned should I be? I was so involved in the beginning and helping in every way possible until lie after lie after lie. But I don’t even understand why he scrolls randomly while smoking etc. and really only MOed once the whole month. Does that sound believable?
    Do any other PAs here just scroll throughout the day randomly and can’t help just looking any moment they get whether pics of naked woman or gifs? Or is there more to it I’m missing?
    Please help me understand.... I’m desperate to know and help if I can or should I assume note lies?
     
  2. sinner76

    sinner76 Fapstronaut

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    I guess it's normal. I used to do that years ago when my habit was out of control.
    I think he is watching porn everyday and he can't stop. Without MO, you'll still have the desire to watch more.
    This is not a good sign because the more frequent you watch porn the more it gets out of control and it is going to make you extremely depressed. It was a burden for me just getting out of bed and going to work. I had no choice but to go to a psychiatrist who gave me antidepressants which made my problems much worse. I wish I had a girl. It could have made my journey much easier.

    Should you get worried? yes. This guy is literally killing his heart. When you watch porn, your heart goes crazy then it goes back to normal. Then everything becomes dull and boring. The more you watch porn, the faster it happens. I have been suicidal.

    Have you tried having sex with him more frequently. I think having more sex could lower his desire for porn. I think if he ejaculated inside you, it would greatly decrease his desire for porn for sometime.

    Also, I have been blocking porn on my devices. You could see the apps I'm using here, if you're interested:
    https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?t...ve-your-willpower-an-aid-easy-streaks.272658/
     
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  3. Tryingto

    Tryingto Fapstronaut

    I certainly used to. It was a way to take the edge off, so to speak. At least that's what I told myself. Another way of looking at it - one that aligns more with my experience with this behaviour (which also extended to sfw images, in my case) - is that it's simply keeping the addiction alive.
     
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  4. Alyssap4391

    Alyssap4391 Fapstronaut

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    yes, we have sex almost daily! That’s the confusing part?! Says it’s not me at all I’m attractive he doesn’t understand, he’s been addicted to this for 16 years it was all he’s known, he’s trying to fix it. Before me he never had a long term relationship and nor did he care about his future. Claims he wants to change yet after I was totally cool with all this months ago, found out for the past month and a half he has not taken it seriously, and after a day of lying to my face when I was for sure he PMO (when all I’ve told him so many times is I just expect Honesty ir it’s over) he made up so many excuses trying to get around it and didn’t admit it until the next night after another PMO then I found out all month long he’s been scrolling (we’ve been at home not working almost side by side daily is the weird part yet he’s still manage to scroll 5-15 mins every other day) and claims that after a month it was The only time he actually PMO, but still lies about scrolling for so long; what am I to believe? and why the scrolling g when we are together that much with a home kids and let’s to take care of. He gets almost nothing done a day it’s mind boggling. Please help, do I just get out now and end my suffering? I’ve been married before it was nothing like this. I can’t handle being lied to.
     
  5. While I don't know your SO, if he is anything like me porn just makes him feel better about himself. Stress and boredom give way to feelings of power and control. Its a way of self-regulating. The fact that he is lying about scrolling reddit is a much bigger problem than the fact that he is scrolling in the first place. Lies are a deal breaker for me in relationships. I don't even maintain friendships with people who lie. When you lie about a problem you can't take action to correct it. You can't even see the problem for what it is. And you can't be trusted. I don't know the details of your situation, but you are right not to tolerate lying.
     
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  6. He is clearly addicted, but at least ashamed enough to lie. I know that doesn't excuse the lying but maybe he needs more help than he's currently getting?

    I don't think the daily sex is helping matters much, or if it is (I wouldn't know either way), it's maybe a sign that he's more of a sex addict. Can you two go long without sex? Does he seem to need it? If you aren't having sex regularly does his porn use go up? These are questions you should be asking I think (I don't want to know the details), and maybe he needs to see a therapist or join a support group.
     
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  7. red gyarados

    red gyarados Fapstronaut

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    Honestly scrolling is addictive even when it’s safe for work
     
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  8. RiverBlue

    RiverBlue Fapstronaut

    It's probably hard for any SO to comprehend, but at root a porn addict's attraction to porn is separate, even unrelated, to his attraction to his partner.

    I have been in passionate relationships with women I loved, and still would view porn and masturbate to it. The urge for porn came from feelings that were not even really sexual. For me it is mostly to avoid thinking about stressful things in my life or just from boredom.

    So my porn habit was separate from and didn't really effect my sex life with my partner - at least from my perspective.

    You can take away 2 things from this, I think. First, a man's addiction to porn doesn't mean he doesn't love you or that there is something wrong with your love making. He can be getting everything he needs sexually and emotionally from you and still have an urge toward porn. Porn is fulfilling completely different needs for him.

    Second, you can't replace porn in his life. There is nothing you can do sexually that will pull him away from porn. If he and you really want to end his feelings for porn, he will need to work on the underlying causes of his addiction. The most you can do is support him.

    Speaking of which, I am sure the fact your partner lies about his porn use is hurtful. That's fair. But consider that he is likely very ashamed. He is doing something that is really unacceptable and that he knows you want to stop, but he can't fully control himself. That's a terrible feeling.

    Also, his lying about his porn use doesn't mean he is lying to you about other things. If he's lying to you from shame, then it may be he is trying to protect your relationship from being torn apart by something he feels he just can't control. It doesn't necessarily mean he's dishonest generally.

    But, of course, any dishonesty has corrosive effects. And porn addiction too. So you need to decide for yourself whether this guy is worth the effort. If so, the best thing you can do is be fully supportive. Make him comfortable enough to be fully honest with you. And help him to deal with or seek help for the underlying sources of his addiction.
     
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  9. Indurian

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    I used to do similar. When I think back it was really nothing to do with the girls in the pictures. It was a way of feeling less stressed, bored and trying to give myself a small boost of happiness. In reality it just compounds your problems and makes you less happy in general. Sorry you are going through this
     
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  10. sinner76

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    I can understand this situation as I have been there before. He's extremely depressed and only porn could make him temporarily better. But porn just makes his depression much worse. It's disabling him.

    It's very hard to stop watching porn when it's just a few clicks away. He could only get better by staying away from porn as long as he can. Time would heal him. I think he should try to limit his access to porn by any means. Maybe get a dumb phone or use porn blockers like those in the thread I mentioned above.

    Also, you don't deserve this. You don't deserve living with a disabled man who is damaged by porn. But I know exactly how he feels because I have been there. He feels dead with no control on what he's doing. He needs help. When I was that screwed, I went to a psychiatrist, he diagnosed me with severe depression and gave me killer drugs. They haven't improved my depression a bit because my depression was caused by watching too much porn everyday. In fact, those drugs damaged me but unlike porn, those drugs damaged me permanently. I know I would never be the same as I was before those drugs.

    He needs your help not a damn psychiatrist. He must stop watching porn for his depressive symptoms to improve. To be honest that wont' be easy at all. I think he has made the decision to stop watching porn many times but obviously, he's failed. Do whatever it takes so he can't access porn. Change his phone to a dumb one, limit his access to devices with internet or install porn blocker. Just take action.

    I know you don't have to go through this. But if you leave him, I don't think anybody else would help him or love him.
     
  11. Psalm27:1my light

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    Sex will not help, in fact it makes quitting harder because of the chaser. Been there done that. The one thing that really helped my husband was no sexual stimulation at all. No sex from me, no seeing me naked, nothing. Occasionally, he will still have a chaser after sex, but it has greatly diminished. Is your bf going to counseling or group? How much does he understand his addiction? Does he know his triggers and inner, outer and middle behaviors? He can’t just quit alone, it’s just not going to happen.
     
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  12. Alyssap4391

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    no he can’t do it alone. I discovered this from my psychology knowledge that something was “different” and he exposed so much of it to me. It matched up with so many of his “flaws” and “behaviors” such as anger resentment blame, I was ready to leave him but then I brought this to light and we decided to work on it. Only he didn’t take it seriously. We thought a minor reboot like no prior two months and no sex would help, only the first chance he got his phone back last month it was a slow progression back to p one week then every couple days then daily. Leading to PMO.
    And he lied to my face which is the most hurtful part after me checking in with him every couple days to ask how he was doing. I am such an understanding person and was up for this challenge but I told him no lies. I want to fully leave him, but it’s hard with the kids and now he’s ready to do it the strictest ways possible and swears he won’t lie to me again etc etc. he already knew that I’d leave if he lied to me again. I can’t get the images of him lying to my face out of my mind I’m so scarred.
    I don’t know how to forgive him. he is claiming now that it much worse if a problem than he ever knew and he wants all the help he can get.
    yes he and I started seeing a counselor separately last week and will go together, but doesn’t he need a specialist?
    No he does not know his underlying issues I don’t think except for this being his only go to at any time for 15 years,not always working,drinking, failing college trouble with the law when he was younger, all made him depressed. He was a man child with no responsibility until he met me and we got pregnant. He’s also a recovering alcoholic.

    He’s changed his life around so much this past year and really stepped up for our family, but now this issue is much bigger than we anticipated. I’m scared and I don’t know if I should continue to try and understand and forgive and help him through it, or just leave now and let him “prove” himself and work it out in his own.
    meet have a family, a home, a future I was looking forward too. But now I feel as if I can’t trust him and that’s very scary to me. That’s my one requirement in a relationship. he swears this is the only thing he’s ever lied to me about out of shame. And most of the times he can’t remember even a few mins of scrolling because he suppresseS it so deeply To where he forgets. That’s not an excuse not to tell me in my opinion no matter what.
    please help. Any resources or opinions are so greatly appreciated.
    And you’re also saying no sex life?
     
  13. Psalm27:1my light

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    If you can find a csat counselor that would help. He could also start attending sa/saa groups, you can do them in your phone or in person if you aren’t on lockdown. Facing the Shadow by Carnes is a good book to work through. 90 days no sexual stimuli at all Is usually the recommended time by csats, but I’ve known couples who went longer because their husband kept relapsing.
     
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  14. RiverBlue

    RiverBlue Fapstronaut

    You know I'm sympathetic about the lying out of shame. It's completely understandable. But it's also critical to you and to his own recovery that he stop lying about it. Not being able to "remember" is possibly true, but a sign of his trying to repress and not deal with his problem, I think. He needs to face up to this or it will not get better.

    I think working with a good therapist is his best bet. A specialist could be helpful, but any good therapist should be able to help. I'd look for someone who does cognitive-behavioral therapy, which has good results for addictions, even if you can't find someone dealing specifically with sexual addictions.
     

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