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Help: I discovered how to O without M and I can't stop doing it

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by testpower, Aug 20, 2020.

  1. testpower

    testpower New Fapstronaut

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    Hi,

    Few months ago I found nofap and gave it a go. To my surprise it was harder than I imagined. This was a great test for me as I realized I definitely have a habit or even an addiction to M so I pushed myself to not do anything...

    Of course, I relapsed a few times. At first I struggled to get a week, then managed another week and relapsed again... After that I gone back to my old habits of M every other day however, I could see my motivation and drive wasn't great so I thought I'd give it another go.

    During this time, I kept pushing myself not to fap but the dopamine withdrawal were crazy so I somehow come up with an idea to stimulate myself in another way without touching my genitals.

    I managed to O by stimulating my nipples and I did not ejaculate. It felt so good I kept going back at it day after day.

    I am now at my 4th week and during this time I have edged a few times but stopped doing it now as I urge to stimulate my nipples more than ever.

    I have never had problem with watching P. I literally could not give less shit about it and I do not watch it but I can see I definitely have extreme urges to release.

    I can feel the benefits of semen retention. I feel much better, sleep better and even when I O after few minutes I'm back to my good self with lots of energy unlike if I had ejaculated.

    My question is the following: How can I control my urges and transform the energy ? I am becoming quite unproductive again because of the constant nipple rubbing...

    The energy is so great I struggle to control it. I managed to transfer it the other day in the gym and I absolutely smashed it but I get the urges daily and I cant kill myself at the gym everyday, I need time to recover.
     
  2. Davidphd1866

    Davidphd1866 Fapstronaut

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    I have heard, I forget where, that being able to have a full body type of non ejaculatory/non penis orgasm was a sign your body has recovered from the previous masturbation.

    Perhaps this is a good sign?
     
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  3. RollerCoaster

    RollerCoaster Fapstronaut

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    I did not even know that it is possible like that :D
     
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  4. testpower

    testpower New Fapstronaut

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    I don't know... I don't have urges to watch porn just to release and those aren't going anywhere. I thought it would get easier after 2 weeks or so but I'm on my 4th week and it's worse than ever.

    Perhaps, my sporadic edging does not help the situation...

    I started to learn to 'ride the wave' of urges. When I get it I try to understand whats happening and do not dismiss it just simply acknowledge it and try to move on - it seems to works at times. What also seems to work is when I stretch. I try to stretch my legs, back and arms when I get an urge and that seems to help to some degree.

    @RollerCoaster - Yes, it certainly is possible. It very different to regular ejaculation orgasm, and I'd say its stronger because multiple ones can also be easily achieved... its draining and very addictive.

    I'm trying to rewire my brain and stop this dopamine exhaustion.... its hard but I think i'm slowly getting there.
     
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  5. testpower, before you go on on your Journey you should pause for a moment and realize: you've accomplished something exceptional, that not many can ever accomplish!
    You've gone so far and you really changed your sexuality, your wiring! Now you shouldn't take advice from people that have never been there where you are now and just go back to the old normal.
    No need for regrets or fear! Just think: where do you want to go from here? What's the right thing to do?
    I can't tell you, but I'm confident that you'll make your way. Go on shining for us!
     
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  6. Can you put it into studying, or work, or meditation?
     
  7. Jerky

    Jerky Fapstronaut

    This is very interesting.

    I really like the idea of hands-free orgasm but i am not ready to go there yet. I just can't stand touching myself with the normal 'guy grip' and F'king my hand. It makes giving in so much worse for me and i use that to justify looking at porn since i'm already disgusted with myself by that point. I have practiced M like a female using my fingers causing friction over my underwear, indirectly stimulating my member. I loved the feminine connection and how it made me feel. This works well and is so much cleaner (prostate O) but still leads to the same old shame for me as i always ended up grabbing my stuff just like one of the guys.

    I am aware of oxytocin release during nipple stimulation. I just can't see the O connection, as oxytocin is such a warm, gentle feeling and while stimulating and pleasureable indeed, i just can't see it as sexual.

    But I didn't know that nipple stimulation could lead to 'O' and the fact that its non-ejaculatory makes it even more enticing. I have read about it but did not believe it was possible.

    I must investigate further.

    Hands-free O & no mess to clean?
    Sign me up!

    Just not today.
     
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2020

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