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Dating sites

Discussion in 'Loneliness' started by Max666, Aug 5, 2020.

  1. Max666

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    I was on POF the other night and out of curiosity I tried the new "live" mode to see what it is and found hot looking girls doing live streams for dollar bills, like street buskers rattling cans to horny, lonely men walking by. Pretty sad. It's sad because this is really the way dating sites work as a whole. You have the good looking, in high demand Asian girls who's profiles are up there for several months but somehow never seem to get a date (hmmm!) and then you have the unattractive girls who are the only ones messaging you.

    I think the whole concept of dating sites is flawed, in fact they should take out the word "dating" and call them something else. Romance is lost in this day and age, the woman genuinely looking for a guy is looking for a "partner" not a "lover" and the #1 prerequisite is always financial security, using their beauty as nothing more than a currency to acquire the things their intelligence and occupation cannot provide.
    What are your experiences with dating sites?
     
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  2. Frustration, lots of no replies, then most of the replies will ghost after the first message. I have given up on them
     
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  3. n7elite30

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    Dating apps and sites are, first and foremost, a business designed to make money for the people that run them. If you don't pay money for the subscription or "premium" or whatever, the odds of you actually meeting someone are stacked HEAVILY against you. Even free apps like Bumble and Tinder have algorithms that bury your profile the more you swipe and intentionally bury women that swipe on you as well, all to convince you to spend money. Honestly, if you want to go that route and have honest intentions of meeting someone to have a long-term relationship with, I would recommend one of the bigger sites like match or eHarmony. They're more expensive, sure, but that means that the other people on there are serious enough to spend that money as well. But yes, I agree that most of the women on those sites are not looking for anything real or are often the type that are either desperate (for various reasons that are often not attractive) or are just bored and looking for validation by seeing that so many guys find them attractive (or they're looking for weed and/or other drugs). Sometimes, they aren't even real people, just bots trying to get you to sign up for some camgirl site or other. In theory, it's an appealing concept and I'm not saying it *never* works. It's just probably even less likely than just living your life and meeting someone by happenstance.

    And in case you were wondering, yes. I used to be one of the suckers that actually spent money and heavily regret it.
     
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  4. Max666

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    I was wondering if anyone's tried facebook.
    Ive got my music and album links up there (Im a music producer) so I guess that would impress a girl who likes that sort of thing, the only problem is you could come across as a creepy predator if you just message random girls who've haven't yet friended. Anyone tried it?
     
  5. Max666

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    I dont entirely agree that the good looking women are just looking for validation, I think there's more to it. I think the vast majority of em (probably 95%, if not more) aren't real.
    There's a rumor going round that POF have their own fake profiles, acting as 'administrators' (to check for abuse) but also to gather market research...ie: how guys respond to theses profiles, inspiring POF to come up with new features to implement (for profit), like the new LIVE mode. I would say that came about through them gathering data via the fake profiles.
    So they're basically catering to:
    1. Desperate unattractive women
    2. Lonely guys
    and each is marketed differently.
    They are NOT catering to attractive women. I say that because profiles of these chicks are up for 8 months at a time and frequently active, if the ratio is 3:1 in favor of guys, there's no way an attractive girl wouldn't get a date in that time + there's already sites catering for these (gold digger) type women like Sugardaddymeet.com or Elitesingles.
     
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  6. On the path

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    I agree, except Match isn't that expensive. $65 for 3 months or something like that. Pretty cheap compared to eHarmony that's like $300 or some shit. But, yes, you get what you pay for with dating sites. If you don't put in any money you'll either get nothing or you'll get those weirdos. The women that have no job, think anime is real, and believe crystals are magic that can heal people.
     
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  7. In my opinion dating sites are an emasculation tool. When the attractive girls don't respond the guys start messaging the unattractive girls. Then those girls don't respond. Can you think of a better way to make yourself feel worse?

    It is true that some guys have a knack for dating apps and see successes but most of the regular guys I know are frustrated with them.

    Men are not supposed to use these. Approaching women in real life raises testosterone levels. This is what men are supposed to do. Women want to be approached in real life. Maybe you won't be her type but we guys reject girls too.

    See it from the other side, from the girls' perspective. Do a google search on "why don't guys approach me" and you'll see what I mean. They need us to approach them in real life.

    Women are genetically programmed to handle approaches by strange men. ALL of the single women I know have told me they wished more men approached them.

    Dating websites are designed to emasculate, to take away one of the most sacred powers a man can have in this world: Walking around his city and starting conversations with female strangers.

    When a guy sends a message to a girl on a dating app and/or swipes-right on her she knows that the guy is most likely too afraid to approach girls in real life.

    Most women use date sites for attention while they sleep with men who approach them in real life. Solution?

    1) DELETE Tinder
    2) DELETE POF
    3) and all the others...
    4) Feel relieved
    5) Go outside and make eye contact with girls you find cute
    6) Say hello
     
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  8. n7elite30

    n7elite30 Fapstronaut

    Yeah, if I ever decide to seriously use an app or site again, I would go with Match. In addition to being cheaper than other serious sites and apps, it seems to have the best reviews and results. I've tried it before but didn't stick with it long enough to see if I could actually get good matches. On top of that, I used it during a time in my life when I wasn't very secure in who I was so I tried way too hard to build a profile I thought would appeal to *everybody* instead of just being myself. That really just set myself up for disappointment, even if I did match with anyone.

    I did want to add some advice to my previous statements though. With apps like Bumble or Tinder, if they're going to work for you at all, you have to game the system. Do it as a time-killer and only use it once a week (weekend evenings are probably the best time). If you're swiping to your daily limit every single day, you're going to get flagged as someone more likely to spend and the algorithms will intentionally make it nearly impossible for you to get seen by anyone you swipe right on and you'll almost never see anyone that swiped right on you. That way, they can try to force you to buy a subscription in your loneliness and desperation. Instead, pick a time where the most people will be using the app and swipe for a bit but go in with the attitude that matching or not matching does not reflect on you in the slightest. If you meet someone to hook up with or date, cool. If not, all you're out is a few minutes and some skin cells on your swiping finger. Most of the ladies aren't putting any real effort into it so why should you?

    If you aren't absolutely certain you can commit to that mindset, then I really don't recommend those at all because you're just asking to get triggered or get your feelings hurt, which can also easily contribute to a relapse. Focus on becoming the best version of you that you can be and then practice introducing yourself in person to women you find attractive. That's what I've been trying to do lately.
     
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  9. Max666

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    Well said!
    I have no interest in dating unattractive, overweight women. I deserve better. But if even the unattractive chicks are turning us down then there's something very very wrong!
    I think a lot of these dating sites are hijacked by hookers...the good looking girls. I reckon if you sent a message saying "how much?" you'd probably get a response. If this is true, what a freaking sad world we're living in now!
     
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  10. The trick is this: the only way to get your power back is to take it back. Meeting girls in person is the only way to go. Leave your house or apartment, make eye contact with girls and say hello.

    Some nights you go home alone and with no phone numbers, other nights you don't go home...
     
  11. Max666

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    So it's been confirmed (I wont say how) that POF is a site that's riddled sugarbabes. The good looking Asian girls (whose profiles active for 8 months +) are indeed sugarbabes - women looking for wealthy old men to buy them gifts in exchange for sex and/or free rent.

    I get it, it's expensive to live in this world, especially if you're a foreigner with few friends. Whatever the excuse this says to me 2 things:
    1. Men are becoming more stupid
    2. Women have less integrity
    Dont know about you but if I were wealthy, I wouldn't give my hard earned cash to some bimbo to pay for her education or shopping sprees just so she could pretend she likes me. I value money, certainly much more than those who dont even value themselves.
     
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  12. POF is almost straight up porn. I have quite a few dating apps installed and POF is one of them. That live video mode is total BS its like going on a porn site and talking to cam girls. The chat is full of lonely horny men sending gifts and then it gets more cringeworthy. Two video streams side by side one is the girl and the other is a random guy. Then you just sit in the chat and watch them talk and flirt. That messes you up seeing your competition and being a voyeur sending virtual gifts like the girl is on a pedestal.

    Everybody talks about just approaching and forgetting about dating apps. It was hard enough approaching with anxiety and all that BS we have in our heads. Now its a covid world with everybody avoiding each other... I had one girl on a dating app refuse to meet until we had a virtual date first... And she has been on that app for about 6 months and only managed one real life date which went nowhere... Tough times...
     
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  13. red gyarados

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    Last I checked POF was the worst dating app with the angriest women.
     
  14. I don't like it all I only installed it because i wanted more dating apps... The first girl i started talking to was just an angry pessimist. In her profile it even said that she does not believe she will find anyone. The conversation was stale and went nowhere then i think she blocked me. The second girl is young, immature and boring with little conversation. I asked her what made her so special expecting to get some sort of engagement. Her response was "Dunno". Clearly a lack intelligence these girls are too used to just hiding behind a cam and getting guys to compliment them.

    Also POF has the most fake accounts I have ever seen in a dating app. You randomly get messages from some girl and then it says the profile was deleted.
     
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  15. And I just found a cam girl I knew it was a red flag when this girl messaged me just now.

    Megan_Philips267: I think there is a good place for intimate dating ❤
    Megan_Philips267: Want to meet? I'm waiting for you❤

    Seriously... Why does it have to be so hard to meet normal women these days?
     
  16. n7elite30

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    Yeah last time I tried to use Tinder, I kept matching with women that would just say “heyyy” and then send me a link to a cam site or premium snapchat. I just started reporting and unmatching them. Hopefully, it’ll at least save the next guy the headache.
     
  17. It's not hard. It's only hard in your mind. Meeting women is a normal, natural, abundance on this planet. But you must put in the numbers (to quote from Blackdragon). Women are literally everywhere. If you want to meet them you must say hello to them.

    Have you taken a walk around your city lately? COVID or not, there are a SHIT TON of couples walking around, going on dates, going to out to eat, etc... Why? Because the guy kept asking girls out until one said yes and stuck with him. Like all things in this universe: girls are a numbers game. Men MUST say hello to strange women or remain alone.

    Of course, this damn coronovirus is causing difficulty, there's no question. But attraction is not a choice. Say hello to the right girl and she will risk all to hang out with you. Pure biology. Never give up. She's out there somewhere.
     
  18. locomia

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    this is what a friend is dealing with,they reply and then he writes and they dont reply back,it's obvious they do this to boost their egos,so they troll away

    damn women have their lives so easy,even 70 yo grannies got replies and keep the convo going real easy it may sound fun but its sad lol
     
  19. Reborn16

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    Well said!

    I think if you're at a point in life where you're hitting most of your goals, meeting new people, things are on the up overall - but you'd like to broaden your chances of meeting someone right for you - that's a good time.
     
  20. Easier said that done I already sort of relapsed last night... Guess that girl was not interested after all feels like ghosting... Anyway women might be everywhere but they also all feel unapproachable. Prior to covid its severe anxiety that prevented me from doing any approaches. Now coronavirus has made everyone avoid strangers by default. You go on a bus nobody wants to sit next to anyone. Go on a train it's the same. Walk down the street almost everyone has a mask on and go into a store its the same. They have zones where people need to stand otherwise you get told off. I was in a restaurant getting food and one of the staff gave me an earful for not standing on the circle and being too close to someone else. You cant even see what girls look like anymore if they have a mask on. You cant gauge interest and there is another serious problem. In some instances you cant even tell how old they are so if you a really unlucky you might end of flirting with someone underage and then you look like a paedophile.

    It just feels like a lost year once again all my relationships are virtual pen pals it's very hard to meet anyone in real life. In the conversation i asked them how many dates they have had this year and its usually nothing, have not been out or met anyone. One girl even refused to meet until we had a virtual date first to see if there is a "spark". And she admitted she has only had 1 real life date in 6 months. Looking like a dead year i have no idea how people are even meeting during covid. And the latest on the news is more local lockdowns coming, more travel bans, less household mixing. All of this designed to stop people from meeting each other.....
     

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