P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

Hello brother! when you say Flatline, you mean that they also had PIED?

 

hello my friend, i never technically had PIED though i did enter multiple flatlines which caused my libido to die.

Yep all my symptoms caused by PMO unfortunately

 

Any updates on your overall condition?

 

Sure. I am still suffering from certain symptoms such as anxiety, anhedonia, fatigue and brain fog. On the whole each month is getting better, but im still having days where withdrawals will be significantly worse for a short period of time. Usually after i go through this period i enter a good period, where symptoms are much better all across the board. Mostly it is still slow for me but there is no doubt things continue to improve. Life isn't so impossible for me to live anymore and its generally easier for me to get tasks done.

I havn't made that jump yet where the so called 'super powers' kick in. Im not even sure what that would feel like just yet. All i know is that if i continue on this path then things will get better for me, so i keep going.

I will be sure to update with any big changes in my symptoms in the future. I am still struggling, though it is getting easier.

 

You're giving me some much-needed hope! Hang in there!

 

Happy to help my friend

 

Day 151

Feeling great! Motivated focused. This morning I went jogging listening to music and had a few euphoric moments where I just started shouting in joy!?? Strange I know. But things feel stable and good.

Not quite where I want to be but im so happy with where I am. I guess it is the nature of man to always want more. I want more lightness and joy, not just the focused motivated energetic person I am morphing into. Perhaps transmutation is needed now that have some energy.

Not ready to call success. Very aware that the flatline could come back and smack me in the face.

Had a girl over the other night, just did some kissing and touching. Got pretty hard with clothes on kissing, so thats good. No real libido or desperate need to have sex with her though. But enjoyed her company for sure, get some funny lustful feelings when we connect.

Im so confident with women, and people and women are starting to appear quite easily. Relationships with family friends is better. Business is better. I feel a little bit magnetic to things, not sure I beleive in that I think its just my more positive mentality that is seeing what was always there. I dont know. Girls ive been around seem interested and act different in my company, admittedly none of them have been smoking hot but it all just flows in a womans company.

Still got tinnitus, no regular erections. Anhedonia is improving, I find myself laughing more, smiling naturally occasionally etc

Sleeping much less, like 6-7 hours. Wake up with no alarm feeling like I Want to get out of bed and do something, anything. In a good place. Such a contrast to where I was up to day 100.

 

Hello,

I was addicted to masturbation for 12 years. Now, I am in nofap challenge since 160 days. I had many withdrawal symptoms in the first 90 days like fear, depression, anxiety, fatigue, lack of energy, heart palpitations and flu like symptoms. Now, I am fine but I still have some weird symptoms from time to another. I feel that my legs and my arms are slow and heavy. I feel like I hardly or manually move them. This symptom come to me especially when temperature is hot.

Also, some nights I wake up at 3:00 am with fever and heat and I find myself so heavy that I couldn't move or change my position except with hard effort.

This weird feeling came to me the first time in my life after 35 days of nopmo at night while I was sleeping. After that, I had this symptom several times when I wake up at night but now and only one month ago I am feeling that my legs and my arms are so heavy even at day and this feeling is not constant. It comes and goes. Sometimes it is strong and sometimes it is weak.

Is there anyone who experienced this symptom even after 5 months of nofap ?

 

How long did you do PMO and at what age did you start and how old are you now?
I am 24 years old and did PMO from age 13-23. I am now on my longest streak of 253 days and since day 1 in flatline. Maybe you can read my last post and give some answers:

https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?t...latline-when-will-it-end.289049/#post-2714633

 

How long did you do PMO and at what age did you start and how old are you know?

 

I didn't even read your post and I can already guess that prior to quitting porn you were edging for hours with multiple tabs
I've been through exactly what you went through, flatline since day 1 pretty much
the thing is, you need to be proactive, the bioenergetic exercises/osho dynamic meditation and Trauma releasing exercises have helped /are helping me a lot. PMO causes a lot of damage in the nervous system and it also contributes to shutting down emotions and feelings in the muscular system, so you develop tight muscles throughout your whole body and this tightness needs to be released through exercise, bioenergetics, TRE etc, you've gotta do this otherwise you won't heal, you will stay in a state of permanent flight/fight and frozen body which will cause a plethora of symptoms like depression, anhedonia, no libido, ED, lethargy, shortness of breath, low immunity etc..

you do all of this in addition to lifestyle changes, cut off artificial stimulation, get on your purpose, start interacting with women in the real world forming real relationships, work out more, build a business so on and so forth, you gotta do the work

 

About 4 years with extreme and 5 years of light use since I've discovered nofap. I took it more serious in 2018 when I saw I wasn't getting healed. I have completed 16mo hardmode with multiple 60 days streaks in a row. It was a "hell" of journey with withdrawals and PAWS. I'm still going through withdrawals such as body stiffness, constipation, IBS, agoraphobia, lower back pain, tremors, brain fog, PIED and a lot more...

 

Hey man, how are you doing nowadays, did you get better?

 

Small improvement each month. However, I'm still in isolation and dealing brain fog & constipation.
What about man, I haven't seen you in the forum for quite a while...!

 

I tried a lot of different stuff (antidepressants, TRT, Ketamine, etc), still facing those symptoms but I've had a huge breakthrough as of recently
I suffered from brain fog during the first 3 years of my journey, it was hell, nowadays I'm battling anhedonia, it still sucks
but I'm doing progress, I'm sharing my latest discoveries

 

I think the "PAWS" symptoms I have has been long lasting anxiety and dysthymia symptoms and exacerbated by stressors like porn and toxic work environments and so on. My symptoms were unbearable in a shit work environment. Doing some soul searching, finding what is the chicken or egg. I think I can tackle the root of my anxiety and depression and see where I go.

Exercising has been really beneficial, a slight lift in mood and a little better sleep, vivid dreams and even random erections at night. I'm overweight and need to loose a good 30 pound.

You've got to do everything you can to get out even with the symptoms!

 

Yoo Big what happen man?
Are you cured totally by now or the addiction cripple back again?

 

I've made a lot of progress but however I've actually done a lot of soul searching recently and realised that anxiety, low self esteem and low grade depression are all the contributors to the symptoms i experience porn made them worse because it was contributing to the stress I had a few years back.

 

That's exactly what we see in a dysfunctional nervous sytem stuck in a frozen state
here's what happens, we did PMO for years, everytime we felt negative emotions we'd sedate ourselves with PMO, we didn't process those emotions, we just swept them under the rug with porn (it could be any other form of escapism, cocaine, cigarettes, alcohol etc, in our cause it was Porn). By not processing those emotions they are kept stuck in the musculature of our body creating what wilheim reich called muscular armoring (Elliott hulse talks about that as well)
if you want to understand that deeply I recommend you to read the book Depression and the body by alexander lowen
Freeddom, you need to practice the TRE exercises as well, at least 3 times a week for 45 minutes (15 minutes the first 6 exercises then 30 minutes of shaking and tremoring)

Body stiffness is the muscles of your body tight, they are tense, constipation and IBS too, see the video that I posted (here it is again.. the dude also had stomach issues, undigested food etc, and I also had it myself!) Lower back pain is a classic symptom of a tense psoas muscle, you need to treat the root cause which is the nervous system, it is beyond a stage of fligh or fight, you're in the survival mode, in a frozen state, you need to thaw your body out man, I'm telling you
less than a week doing these exercises regularly and I can already feel glimpses of libido coming back and spontaneous erections
I'll do the low intensity shockwave therapy to address ED but I'm already treating my nervous system, I've finally found the cure for this problem