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Discussion in 'Events & Challenges' started by corylife, Dec 22, 2019.

  1. strength_09

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  2. ThisSideThatSide

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    heyy brother,
    firstly, thank you v much.
    this streak was also my longest one, but, nvm, this time, i'll get a much longer one.
    and because i'd never been through flatline, i was doing exactly what you are saying here, i was looking at porn substitutes to check whether i still get an erection, should not have done that, because i didn't even realise when i started to look at porn instead of substitutes and the next moment i know, i've relapsed :( .
    and yes, i can relate to feeling no desire toward women at all, and from the vids i've seen on youtube about the nofap flatline, it's completely natural, 'your brain is rewiring to real girls from mere pixels from the screen', they say.
    i take 2 cold showers daily.
    i can't socialise rn because of this lockdown thing, but, i still chat with my friends (both male and female) occasionally.
    i don't really have much time to watch movies, because i have my exams after just 4 mths, but yes, i'll make it a point to watch the ones you recommended whenever i get the time.
    and i post here quite frequently too.
    i even meditate and exercise daily.

    i will fight back and defeat this flatline.
    thank you once again for being at my side brother!!
     
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  3. the lostman///

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    way*
     
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  5. hiddentaurus

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    C'mon bro, porn substitutes are still porn if you're on no PMO. That's not an excuse. Don't do that to yourself. Remember what we said to you before when you mentioned the pre-cum thing, if you look at naughty photos or engage in any substitutes and you are trying to stay away from P, that is a relapse. Looking at porn to test an erection is like a recovering alcoholic taking a sip of vodka to see what happens. Slippery slope, my man.

    "Testing an erection" is one of the top rationalizations guys in recovery use to justify a relapse. You're definitely not alone there. But that should tell you something. By indirectly indulging the vice in this manner, we have allowed our monkey brains to once again fool our rational brains. Studies have shown that for most porn addicts, our pmo habits have shrunk a region in our brain called the prefrontal cortex. The prefrontal cortex is what controls our judgment, decision making skills, and impulse control. Brain scans have shown that porn addicts have reduced grey matter in this region, and this is exactly what causes that little mental willpower struggle we have moments before a relapse. You know the thing we all do where we came up with a damn great and genius reason to pmo that's "technically not a relapse" but...we know what's really going on deep down? And then we do it anyway? That's what's happening.

    I have total faith you'll do better than before but don't overlook the significance of this relapse. You need to write down what your thought process was leading up to it. There could be outside factors that contributed to it, but based on the little that I know, I would start with your sudden interest in the flatline. Curiously, you went from casually asking about it in this thread and getting informed to suddenly testing yourself to make sure you didn't have it. You'll probably be able to identify where you went wrong simply by following the cookie crumbs from your last few posts leading into your relapse. You've gotta know yourself well enough to stop yourself.

    At any rate, keep moving forward! Having a great attitude is half the battle. And you've definitely got that. Beat this thing for us, brother!
     
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  6. ThisSideThatSide

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    yessir!!
    i will not search for any porn now, even substitutes.

    "You know the thing we all do where we came up with a damn great and genius reason to pmo that's "technically not a relapse" but...we know what's really going on deep down? And then we do it anyway? That's what's happening."
    thats exactly what happened yesterday after the relapse. i was not satisfied AT ALL ( i just released, M without 'O'ing ), so i was trying to convince myself that it is not a relapse, but yes, it was.

    the thing that led to the relapse was actually the fact that i had not many things to do. i was just sitting there, aimlessly browsing the internet, thats where it all started.
    but nvm, i'll get back at it, without worrying about no erections during flatline. because that is supposed to happen, it means that i'm on the right path.

    I will win. I will not relapse.

    thank you bro!
     
  7. strength_09

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  8. corylife

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    great, i lasted almost 5 days im back to square 1. WHY. WHY. WHY.
     
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  9. hiddentaurus

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    Dude...I'm with ya. Just f*cking relapsed myself. &%*$(!

    Was playing games online and raging while having beers. Got and urge but had SEVERELY reduced/almost non-existent willpower to fight it due to the goddam alcohol in my system. Still tried to implement my last minute strategies but the urge remained.

    Tip for the guys here, stay the hell away from any judgment impairing substances (drugs + alcohol) late at night. Competitive online games or anything that has a chance of invoking anger from me seem to trigger as well. Not sure if it's the same for anyone else. But it's like when I'm getting my ass handed to me, the anger builds up and if I can't find redemption or relief in the game, the next best release is pmo. And the rest is history. I'm surprised I've oddly never made that connection before now.

    Still actually kind of tipsy now but boy am I pissed at myself. Ugghhhh! There goes 7 days.
     
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  10. ThisSideThatSide

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    with you bro, keep it up, you got it. just get past the first 5-6 days then shit becomes easier, until you hit the flatline..
     
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  11. ThisSideThatSide

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    woke up from an afternoon sleep and found that i just had a nightfall (well afternoon-fall in this case..)
    counting this as a relapse because my ultimate goal is semen retention along with no pmo.
    so, starting again from day zero.
     
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  12. hiddentaurus

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    Woah. You are really stacking the chips against yourself there, bro. I've not heard of any recovery model that accepts wet dreams as a legitimate relapse. They're involuntary. If you are still relapsing from just pmo, increasing the difficulty seems rather counter-intuitive. You're also not going to be able to get momentum if you make it easier for yourself to fail.

    Is there a...particular reason you want to zero out your count after involuntary emissions?
     
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  13. ThisSideThatSide

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    hey, it's not that.
    the power of semen retention was one of the reasons i started nofap. i did not get nightfalls at all until now, this was the first nightfall i've ever had in my entire life. so, i decided that ANY kind of release would be counted as a relapse (thats why i was so concerned about that precum thing), i didn't actually care about nightfalls much till now. now that i've had one, i counted it as a relapse. if the frequency continues, i will sure start not counting them as relapses, but as of now, i'm counting it as one.
    am i doing the right thing here? i think i am.
     
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  14. New Achiever Me

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    Hello Everyone

    Today is my first day trying to get rid of addiction. I truly need to hold myself accountable and this thread seems just perfect.

    I don't know if I know how to use this, but I will comeback everyday to update and I hope I can even come here and help people around as well.

    I feel so weak and tired and I just used these things to solve a lot of problemas that are not going to be solved through it.

    Anyways.

    I am very excited!
     
  15. ThisSideThatSide

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    good luck mahn, there with you!!
     
  16. hiddentaurus

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    Good luck, bro! And congratulations on making such an important decision! We're in this together.
     
  17. strength_09

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  18. Great awakin

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    Hi all, i relapsed after 7 days :( so pissed off at myself. I was just physically tired after hard work and had 4-5 hours of sleep. I usually dont have good defense mechanism when im tired or stressed or angry. Trying to pick myself back up now
     
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  19. frace

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    don't be upset we're all human beings and mistakes are inevitable; at least you had 7 days of streak! next time you'll reach much more!

    guys, do you block porn sites on your devices? i recommend freedom app for this. it's not just for porn and it's really effective
     
  20. frace

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    congrats :emoji_clap::emoji_clap::emoji_clap::emoji_clap: i'd also like to achieve it someday. now 7 days for me it's a pretty great deal
     

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