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The START 2021 STRONGER Challenge [CLOSED]

Discussion in 'Events & Challenges' started by Deleted Account, Sep 3, 2020.

  1. aniseprakash

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    Hello brothers, hope you people are rocking. I strongly believe PMO has created an illusion in our mind. Breaking this illusion is another key to success.

    Whenever you feel like relapse is round the corner, just think "What am I doing? Just looking at a screen for pleasure? This is so stupid"

    This self talk helped me in the past and this time around I never had any relapse yet. This time I have started the reboot with a mindset of a Non-PMOer i.e I changed my belief about Porn. It (Porn) is disgusting and it is out of ethics. Now I am confident about my reboot. Moreover I don't feel like a rebooter, instead I feel like I am far off from PMO.

    Today is 5th day completed 4 days without any trouble. Hope to continue the same.

    Yes bro, but we shouldn't allow that blink of a second. Let's fill even a minute with a small work. Let's change our perspective of everything. When we are mindful about everything we will be on track.
     
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  2. ToMMy.H

    ToMMy.H Fapstronaut

    @BrohkenCompass Actually I watched porn around april the last time. Then i watched some pictures like 2months ago, so its not that early.
    Its not solely about the concrete porn scenes. The fantasizies are based on the things I saw in porn and they have still the same key points - the place, body, story, always abusive in some way.
    So its not about the concrete scenes but its about the concrete things - i wont name it so i wont trigger other participants.
    I hope it makes sense.
     
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  3. I would love to get down on this challenge.
    I'm already a ways into my streak but the urges today were stronger than I've ever had, thankfully got up and went to the laundry room which is not private to fold some stuff and stay busy.

    Anyhow, the idea of now until next year and then beyond sounds awesome, I'd love to hit over 100 days finally!
    I can do it, we can do it!
     
  4. Yes, I totally understand. I think I mentioned before that I'm far from claiming expertise in this arena, but sharing my own experience, the more I remove porn from my daily activities, the less it calls to me. When I relapse it's the real world stuff that gets me there and then my brain defaults to 30+ years of habit.

    Feeling down about myself, getting rejected by my wife for sex, having sex and then replaying the moment, an extra stressful situation....these all seem to be common triggers for me. Immediately or even a day or two prior to acting out in response to any of these triggers often I feel very safe, not tempted to use porn at all and no urges to just MO because of the pleasure. I'm often pretty committed to NoFap and have even posted on the forum within an hour or two of acting out

    My point here, for your situation is that from my understanding of the YBOP theories, we all start small and some gradually increase the volume, frequency, intensity, and type of exposure to porn. At first seeing a photo of a nude woman is enough to stimulate us. Then it requires two and implied sexual activity. Then it requires the ACT itself. Then it requires more and more intense versions of sexual behavior to bring stimulation. Also trying to tread lightly to avoid triggers here. You get the point.
    Rebooting is a period of time that rewires the grain and literally undoes damage and neurochemical reactions that we need for dopamine responses and generally feeling good. It's hard in the beginning especially (obviously) but it does seem like there's truth to the theories if rebooting
    Perhaps your extended requirements for more intense scenes and ideas of sexual fantasies, and more graphic sexual imagery is just going to take longer to remove it completely?
    Now I didn't come this far to not offer a solution. I think that it's time you consider the fact that you are in the driver's seat here. I don't want to be rude, but you're continued pointing to your fantasies as your main problem is an indicator that you're not taking ownership of these thoughts. Is it a light switch you can just turn off, no. But with practice you can control your thoughts. Two things I'd encourage you to look into a te mindfulness, and meditation. They're similar but not the same. Begin to take ownership of your thoughts, and I suspect they'll lose their control over you.

    Wishing you strength.
    BC
     
  5. This is a bit presumptuous. Remember, as an addict I'm struggling to control the acting out. I'll give an example. Two days ago my family I left to go to mass for my mother in law that just passed. I stayed home with the boys because 3 days Inna row of church is too much on them to behave, etc. I was playing some xbox, doing well. I had to get up to get a drink. Then to the bathroom for a rest room break. Then in an instant my mind switched to "the house is empty, you're alone in the bathroom, do it, go on, look at porn and MO". My heart palpitated with excitement. I felt flush. I hit my Google browser. Then I closed it. I said no. I put the phone down. I finished my bathroom business. Instead of getting up, I picked my phone up again. Then I snapped out of it. I said out loud (not loud) no dude you gotta get the fuck out of here. I went straight to where the kids were and jumped on NoFap and journaled.

    Point is that I WAS busy. I wasn't daydreaming. I was just going to the bathroom, but that's an old acting out place and it almost caught me up. There is no off switch. We endure the addiction, we live with it, not bypassing it in avoidance. These are my .02 cents.
     
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  6. Happy to welcome another friend to join us. Best of luck. This is all about you. Take it one day at a time and be healed.
     
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  7. banana man

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  8. Welcome to the challenge @banana man Trust in yourself, this is our time!
     
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  10. banana man

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    Thank you @BrohkenCompass
     
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  11. ToMMy.H

    ToMMy.H Fapstronaut

    @BrohkenCompass thank you so much for your input and time. I appreciate it.

    I agree with you that my main goal is to manage my sexual fantasies/thoughts. I do meditation daily, so I am aware that I am not my thoughts and the thoughts only appear in me, but I am not them.
    I must be very aware when fantasies appear and then take deep breaths and let them pass, not engage in them.
    I noticed big improvement ever since I am part of this challenge and deathmatch challege (we are teammates btw ) usually when thoughts came I immediately acted on them. Now I am aware of them and dont start masturbating. The next step is to stop actively fantasizing and continuing with the fantasy, just let it pass.

    I think about your situation...first of all I am 26 and have no experience with marriage...but I had long 4years relationship and I masturbated almost every day, playing with my fantasies, sometimes not even about her, it was twisted. And I masturbated even when we had sex the same day.

    So I think what you wrote is totally normal and you are doing great jib, so much better than me. That was very bad. If you get sexually trigerrd by your wife, dont have sex and then masturbate thinking about having sex with her, i think its definately much better than all typical fapsters who watch porn and fap.

    it would be bad only when you get trigerred and you decide to watch porn and fap. If you only use your wife, recalling real sex events, then I think its fine or at least not such a big harm to your brain wiring.
     
  12. Thanks @ToMMy.H Don't get me wrong, P use has definitely been an issue. Even before sex, or even after sex when sex was regularly occurring. When we were trying for kids , sex was often and fulfilling and great, but I was still in the bathroom tugging on my johnson and looking at porn. Making progress since 2018. I'm comfortable with the journey being longer vs shorter. It is a time of growth. I am gaining perspective, wisdom, discipline, etc. vs. "losing" porn in my life.
    At the moment my goal is to remove P altogether of course, and not have that in my life. As for MO, I'd prefer to not do it in solitary. Once upon a time
    if my wife wasn't in the mood she'd let me touch her and do it, even kissing me in the process.
    I'd be okay with that, but not in solitude and secrecy I think.
     
  13. aniseprakash

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    Oops I am sorry for over stepping there bro. I just thought from my perspective, I didn't think from yours. I just tried to offer some help, think it miss fired :)

    This blink of a second stuff has not stuck me yet. I have been rebooting so any times in the past couple of years, but all my relapses were intentional (Testing my strength and other stuff).
     
  14. gcamt123

    gcamt123 Fapstronaut

    I have also started writing my journal under 20-24 age group...
    Keeping clean for past 10 days
     
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  15. No offense taken my friend. I promise. I'd quit today and never look back if I were strong enough. I feel like that R. Kelly song... "Mind saying no, body saying yes". I'm at war within...may the best man win.
     
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  16. Great stuff. Keep at it.
     
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  17. New Focus

    New Focus Fapstronaut

    I was up early too as I could not sleep. This challenge really supported me just now. I was doing a research on an older version of an app that was not working after the latest update and it sent me to a triggering site. I allowed myself to get hit with dopamine. In the past, I would have followed that to psubs and then porn and then PMO. As it is, I did not like how it affected me, even if I was self aware enough to pull away.

    As I wrote before, most times my urges come in the moment with no real reason for them.

    Starting Day 7.
     
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  18. Excellent awareness and self control. Stay the course. You can be one of two people next year and the power is yours.
     
  19. ToMMy.H

    ToMMy.H Fapstronaut

    I am in a battle. Everytime I am home and have spare time, I feel the urges to lay down on bed and start proning. Yesterday for a brief moment laid on a bed, started but quickly realized this is not the way to go.
    Now I motivate myself, that these hard times are the times where I get better. The times when I dont have urges thats nothing. The times when I have urges are the times I am slowly getting rud of that habit -> bored-> urges -> fap. Its time to change the last object of this loop.

    btw reading pretty good book about habits - The Power of Habit by Charles Duhigg
    Talks a lot about the habit loop and that you cant get rid of the trigerrs, but you can change your roztinne action.
     
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  20. aniseprakash

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    You can win bro. Since you are the creator of this challenge you cannot loose. A leader always shows his followers the way to success. So lead us from the front.

    Feeling strong and happy being a Non-PMOer. Day 5 is a goner... Priding into Day 6
     
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