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Watching pictures without really feeling anything

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Deleted Account, Sep 11, 2020.

  1. Hi!

    Have you guys gotten to the point that you have blocked porn from your PC but you still tend to go to search engine and look up adult actresses even though you do not feel anything towards them. They might be visually pleasing but you aren't horny or anything. It has developed into some weird comfort thing with stimulation of your dick with your hand.

    I realise that these are just virtual women and I'm not gonna meet them in real life or I'm not even interested in meeting them in real life since my values are different and I live in completely different country. Atleast I have not wasted any money on this habit/addiction.

    It is pointless but you still keep doing it. I decided to make a stop to it since not doing good to myself with it. It is just temporary comfort without any real connection or feelings. It is not productive and it is just wasting time. I think it also prevents me from really caring or being attracted to the opposite sex since I'm not letting myself be horny.

    I guess this is just some of my rambles.
     
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  2. skaterdrew

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    Those images are artificial sexual stimulation. Dopamine is rising in your brain motivating you to search them, and every time you search more and see more dopamine keeps rising and rising.

    This is the behaviour your trying to get away from.
     
  3. So I guess since it is constant build up the dopamine receptors overload and that leads to feeling sad and tiny bit depressed?
    Since usually in real life situation that dopamine build up and sustainability is not the same.
     
  4. skaterdrew

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    It can lead to many different issues. It's addiction. This is the behaviour most guys on here and addicted to. This is the way that they get their kick. Edging, constantly searching new arousing content while masturbating, and then this goes on for long periods of time. More dopamine, more dopamine, more dopamine.

    Also don't think those google images aren't porn. As I always say you should class all artificial sexual stimulation as porn.
     
  5. I'm not denying they are the only difference it is not full nudity but the people are similar. Yeah I kind of understood that edging part. From changing my ways relating to those thing I stop this artificial dopamine building and build dopamine with healthier methods without constant highs and lows. Even if the dopamine amount released is not the same.
     
  6. Ahiphena

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    This has been the cause of most of my relapses. Personally I reset my counter at intentional viewing of arousing material, even if I didn't do anything while looking.

    Even if it isn't "as harmful" as the whole PMO process, I'm trying to change my habits and thoughts in general.
     
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  7. skaterdrew

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    Yeah higher levels of dopamine might release when you are on more arousing content. So on a porn site for example. But none the less if you keep wanting to search new images on google images and you're getting aroused by this, then this is the exact same behaviour as when you keep searching new content when you're on a porn site. Your brain constantly keeps releasing more and more dopamine. This is the addicted behaviour you want to get away from.
     
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  8. GrandRising

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    I quoted just this part of your post because I think this is the root of it and you've found the key insight here. It's just serving as a buffer for unwanted and uncomfortable feelings. Feeling those hard emotions and processing those sticky or distressing thoughts is a key part of recovery from my perspective. Most addicted users from what I've seen (and personally experienced) use porn as a kind of pain suppressant.

    So I guess my challenge for you (no pressure here) would be to feel your discomfort and then find a productive thing to do or something that allows you to process it. It could be art, exercise, journalling etc. Or you could simply sit with yourself and feel whatever comes up.

    It's not an easy thing to do though, I think it's a lifelong skill we're all continually learning and re-learning.

    I've been going through a similar thing myself at the moment.
     
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  9. Yeah currently I have lots of reading to do regarding University. Two things I want to try during my day is going for a walk without music or using some relaxing music and just having a thought to myself. Other thing is to try a guided meditation I even have an app for it. Well I guess those hard emotions is loneliness for longer period of my life which I try to I guess comfrot with those pictures or pmo. I'm a talkative person when it is just not only me that tries to spark the conversation but I have not had really meaningful relationships as far as friendships.

    I think it has became a thing on it's own just a habit without a goal of seeking comfort in it if that makes sense.
     
  10. GrandRising

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    Nice. Those are some good things to be working on.

    The friendship one can be a hard one. All I can say is be curious about others and ask genuine questions and give genuine answers when they ask you questions. Also, talk about things you are passionate about in a passionate way. It generates interest. That's mostly what I've done and it has served me well. Is there anything you feel holds you back in this area?

    Totally know what you mean about it just being a habit. However, I think most of the time it's there for a reason. I could be wrong though. I guess you won't know until you stop it haha.
     
  11. Well I think in my past life I felt that I was the only one that was putting the effort into being social and asking others out to hang out. Eventually I got fed up with it since I was the only one making effort. I guess that lead to loneliness. Why put effort into something when you are only one doing it? When I was hanging out with others we had fun and everything but again it was me making the most effort.

    So I guess I want that response from others so it is not just me seeking a conversation or a friend. That made me sort of reserved not very social, more content with being alone by myself... it is not like I need attention or someone by me 24/7. At the same time being alone a lot is not healthy and is not helping with the whole PMO.
     
  12. nirav2696

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    You are absolutely right brother, I like your opinion
     
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  13. GrandRising

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    Oh yeah, that can be pretty annoying. It varies between friendships for me, I have some friendships where I'm in the initiator and some friendships where my friends do it.

    Yeah contact is good. Hard at the moment though with covid.. at least in my city.
     
  14. Kazuhira_Miller

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    Yeah I think I know what you mean. I would block adult sites on my laptop, NSFW subreddits, everything. But I would often go to google images and look at “SFW” pics of “actresses” I liked. It’s like a mini dopamine rush kinda.
     
  15. Exit To Freedom

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    You know when you are doing it but you can't stop, and this is what we need to put an end to. The dopamine starts building like an avalanche the moment you make the wrong decision and it's too late. One first look, one false step, one step closer.
     
  16. I see that some people think they can train their sensitivity and perspective by looking at NSFW(like clothed sluts etc.) content.But the common denominator of these people is that they cannot reach 90 days.Also 90 day is nothing but this is another topic.I don't think looking at this kind of content will be useful when rebooting.Because your brain will use them for sexual dopamine.It's still the same damn purpose.This is something I've experienced as well.When I started nofap two years ago, I'm talking about the time I experienced my first long streak.I've watched movies and read comics with a lot of sexual content on this streak.At first these were not interesting to me because I was bombarded by P.Sure it doesn't make much sense for my brain, which is used to more hardcore content, to be affected by these contents.After a while I realized that everything started to affect me, everything seemed to me like P. To control my sensitivity, I watched a few TV shows and searched for some NSFW content.And then I relapsed, my 140-day streak was shattered.So the lesson from that is, early in your streak or after a certain amount of time, never test yourself with NSFW contents. This is always unnecessary and risky. You can screw everything up.
     
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