Masturbating once is not a "relapse" it's a "reset" - Risky/excessive masturbation can be a relapse.

Something inside you doesn't fully accept that doing it so often is a problem. Why? What does masturbation do for you that you aren't getting from other things? Based on what you have said above, you mention feeling lonely. I am willing to bet if you worked on getting out of that rut just a bit you will then be better able to take control of your masturbation.
Meanwhile, do some outside research. Find out all you can about masturbation and reasons why people do it. Don't listen to these saints who think doing it even once is the worst thing a person can do.
When you start getting to the root of the problem you can take more control. Deal with it with patience.
Imagine if you started doing that today.
Now imagine one year from now.
I bet you can make big improvements.

 

Thanks

 

Thank you so much

 

I don’t think the comparison between an apple and masturbation are really on the same playing field. An apple is for eating and if you eat it it’s purpose is fulfilled. Masturbating doesn’t serve any purpose. Anything else is really rationalizing the behavior.

 

OMG, i didn't know this!

 

With what I'm experiencing I don't think masturbation is even an addiction, porn is the addiction here I have gone 40days NW without watching porn and I'm noticing a very positive results, I don't see masturbation NW as an issue but when I have a slight view of any sexy image I strt feeling pressure below to masturbate, In my dreams I crave for porn, my brain is addicted to porn, I could even say most ppl that are addicted to sex is because of their excessive view of porn

 

I'm totally agree with you

 

I had history of severe porn addiction as a young teenager. Over time I left porn and developed sexual addiction (masturbation addiction). I am devastated because of it. I have no energy, cant focus, and worst of all I experience severe withdrawal symptoms when I try to stop. I cant last 1 day without falling back into that pit. I am trying my best.

 

On my 8th day of nofap and I already want to fap, it´s crazy.

 

That is a good message!
My goal is 90 days no PMO
And then MO maybe once a week from then on.

 

I ultimately consider one MO both relapse and reset. I suppose it depends on an individual's real goals. Mine are both for psychological and spiritual health and happiness. Unlike an apple which would not affect me either way, even if I had a glutton eating disorder, a single act of MO does upset my real goals here. The analogy doesn't carry in all instances. One alcoholic beverage to an alcoholic might be a closer, if not perfect, analogy. One beverage is not ordinarily bad to an average person, but it may very much be a source of downfall and unhappiness to an alcoholic and considered a real relapse.

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Apple example is not accurate. Masturbation and apple are not even similar contextually. Eating a little fast food is a reset. Eating excessive amount of fast food is relapse. That's it. Do not make masturbation reset seem innocent by using analogy of eating a healthy food, an apple. WE DO NOT BUY THAT! Again, masturbation is not normal, never normal and this website is NOFAP, not "rarely fap"!

 

Dude something is healthy or unhealthy that's it. There is no choosing there, there is no subjectivity there, it is independent from your goals. Masturbation is unhealthy, thus you should avoid it, it is very addiction provoking thus you should be very decisive about avoiding it. it is something we compare it to Heroin shot. Everyone should avoid it. Even biscuits are unhealthy, the fact that it does not make you sick right away does not make it healthy. Simple as that!

 

I agree wholeheartedly, from my point of view. And P and MO are out of my life for good now, and this site has helped me reach my goal - through conversing with others, looking deep within myself, using the accountability of a counter for both others and myself to witness, and finding support and encouragement here, even as I recognize that there are so many philosophies of recovery and so many different motives and goals and reasons people have for being here. I was able to follow my own recovery path alongside them, interestingly. Best wishes!

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आईटी इस helpful for me thanks !
[QUOTE = "अलेक्जेंडर, पोस्ट: 1491626, सदस्य: 1"] मनोवैज्ञानिक रूप से बोलना, एक बार हस्तमैथुन करना एक रिलैप्स नहीं माना जाता है, भले ही आपको यौन लत या बिना पोर्न के हस्तमैथुन करने की लत के रूप में माना जा सकता था।

भोजन की लत के बारे में सोचो । क्या एक सेब खाना एक खाद्य व्यसनी के लिए एक राहत माना जाता है?

बिलकूल नही।

गैर-अत्यधिक रूप से सेब खाने से चिकित्सा पेशेवरों को अस्वस्थ नहीं माना जाता है। गैर-अत्यधिक हस्तमैथुन के साथ भी। गैर-अत्यधिक हस्तमैथुन को सामान्य व्यवहार माना जाता है।

Words can be important. If you want to abstain from masturbation for a period of time completely to "reboot" your sexuality to something more healthy, by all means avoid masturbation for that period of time. But if you slip up and masturbate once without porn, call it a reset. You failed to reach your goals. And it's okay to acknowledged that. The word reset was derived from the action of resetting your streak day counter.

In the context of food addiction, binging on fast food might be considered a relapse. Same here.

Relapses:

• Masturbating in a risky way that puts you at risk for serious repercussions, such as masturbating in public
• Masturbating very excessively to the point that it negatively impacts your life in measurable ways
• Skipping other important obligations, such as work, because of a compulsive need to masturbate then and there
• Masturbating to porn once could be considered a relapse for a porn addict

Resets:

• Not reaching your reboot streak goal and masturbating once without porn
• Masturbating non-excessively

Am I saying that masturbation is good? No. I am not making a stance on masturbation in this thread. I am relaying the standards that I've learned from mental healthcare professionals who treat sex addiction.

This distinction is important because it helps mental healthcare professionals to take this issue seriously and find more solutions to it. It aides in research and keeps us all on the same page. Relapse is a medical term. Reset describes not reaching your goals.

Best wishes in reaching your sexual health goals.[/QUOTE]

 

Thank you very much!

 

hi guys,
yesterday, it was the 10th day of my reboot on hard mode and I'm completely frustrated and depressed in addition to I had a serious OCD about my penile length and when I tried to measure it I masturbated without intending to do so. but in the moment of ejaculation I had mental pop up of a sexual dream and after 12 hours I still have the same OCD and i the same happened but this time I didn't measure it because i was angry at myself, although my penile length from the skin( not from bone) to tip was 12 cm, or let's say it's 11 cm. I don't care because I'm overweighted and I measured as I said from the skin, not from the bone which means I'm actually in the average size.
by the way, my question is

is masturbation these 2 times without intention and without watching porn considered a relapse or slip? I know I should not do it and I intend not to masturbate at least for 90 days.
note: in the second one I didn't have any mental sexual photos but after the ejaculation, with a few minutes I had thoughts about completing it as a relapse and I think I had an urge to relapse but I could resist it. Currently, i don't have even an urge to watch porn or anything else I'm just sad and angry at myself because of i would really relapse because of fucking ocd thoughts.
Sorry for long post.

 

One:

Leave your penis alone!

It's common to obsess about your penis after all the years of abusing it. Measuring it, testing it, watching it… None of these will do anything whatsoever to help you along.

Just leave it alone. You touch your penis only for cleaning, and nothing else. Period.

Two:

It's a reset, definitely. But is it a relapse? That depends on what's gone on in your brain. Possibly not, because you didn't use porn, but without opening your skull, peering inside with a microscope, and seeing a before- and after-image, it's impossible to tell!

So:

Treat this as a learning experience. You now realise that you worried about your penile length, that worrying about it does nothing to help you, and that it instead causes problems.

Let nature do what nature is best at, and heal you. She can't heal you if you keep fiddling. She knows better than you, anyway; you've been on this planet for just 22 years, whereas nature has been around literally for billions of years.

Let it go. Trust in the process. Your penis will grow with time. It took mine about 100 days to grow, though not to normal. It took roughly two years (if I remember rightly) to regain its full length.

Leave it alone.

 

On the 5th day after the 22 days record relapse, oh boi is it hard, found out how to use Stylepaints on maximum capacity so I'd stop using it for orgasms.

 

Thanks bro! I'm really grateful for you.