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Why do doctors not articulate the dangers of porn?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Astro101, Oct 4, 2020.

  1. Astro101

    Astro101 Fapstronaut

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    I'm curious - porn is so damaging - and it is - why does the main stream media and most doctors not warn against it?

    Is it because they feel that socially it would be impossible to stop it?

    That can't be it - most people would agree that porn is not great for you - so why not condemn it more strongly?
     
  2. Hey friend, the porn industry are quite powerful and rich so they may operate lobists to prevent laws and roles related to banning porn.
    They also may fund studies and researchs that claim porn isn't harmful and even beneficial so you and the doctors remains in a chaos about whats right and keep this topic to negotiation. (Same thing happens at the food industry).
    Plus, today's advertisements are partly can be called "soft porn" where naked models trying to persuade you to consume so if society can't ban that, they obviously can't ban porn.
     
  3. Because there hasn't been enough studies and verifiable scientific evidence that porn use is actually harmful. At least not yet.

    I don't doubt that it will eventually happen. You have to think about it this way, at one time most if not all of the things we consider "dangerous" and that are illegal today weren't always. At one point, hard drugs like heroin and cocaine were legal. Why? Because there wasn't enough evidence for the general population to consider it a threat.
     
  4. recoome

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    Main stream media wont spread awareness against porn cause it wont be viewed. the main stream media needs money, for that they need advertisements, for that they need viewers, and most people watch reality shows.

    they want to be tantalized, entertained.

    soft porn is already there in tv shows. it'll only get worse.

    what can happen is people realizing that tv is not your best friend, celebrities are not your role models, and glamor is not heaven.
     
  5. Yup. It pisses me off—pron is still a relatively new thing. I would assume at least part of it is because a lot of people don’t come out & talk about it so then it wouldn’t be considered problematic or whatever.
     
  6. clapas

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    This is too big an extrapolation. People don't jerk off to TV shows.
     
  7. Yeah I think thats also one of the main reasons. no ones talk about it with his/her friends and family because its a taboo and "private"
    Yet.
     
  8. recoome

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    true they dont. but sexual shows add to the addiction. a far-fetched analogy would be perfect storm.

    there's porn which is easily available--> sexual images
    tv shows--> more sexual images
    bill boards--> more sexual images

    it all adds up.

    watching sex on tv is also how one can lie to oneself. like: i dont watch porn.
    i just see sex scenes on youtube once in a while, but no porn. oh no.

    the only solution i can see is have education/awareness about porn addiction in schools/colleges.
     
  9. clapas

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    You were talking about main stream media, like regular TV shows, weren't you? I don't see there are sexual shows on TV, where explicit content is shown, e.g. penises, vaginas, penetrations, etc —maybe in your country?

    One thing is porn and another thing is shows were participants show their curves, flirt or even have intimacy off the camera or under a blanket. I never get aroused while watching such TV shows and if you do, then maybe it's your problem. Or maybe you are confusing "sexual" with "insinuating."

    You say
    Man, there is no porn on main stream media. Like "porn."

    If we want a solution to porn addiction we cannot conflate the terms. Porn is what you find on porn sites, not on main stream media, and no, TV does not add up to porn addiction. If you understand this addiction you will acknowledge that TV does not add up to it. The addiction is about PMO, right? Who watches TV to get aroused, masturbate and orgasm?

    Maybe what happens to you is that you see a beautiful woman on TV and then you want to go to a porn site and look up a video inspired by that and jerk off till orgasm. This is your problem! You can see a beautiful woman on the street too.

    Not the only solution but, yeah, it is part of the solution.
     
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  10. grffn

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    No one makes money on articulating the dangers of porn, so there isn't any private money to fund scientific studies yet to prove that its actually dangerous.

    Most people who have suffered from porn addiction/abuse keep it private, so there isn't any public interest group that has formed to advocate for public funds to go to scientific studies on the dangers of porn use.
     
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  13. Astro101

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    For me - 'explicit' images or partial nudity during TV shows raises the risk of setting my mind on the track to PMO - for example, I'm currently watching The Boys on Amazon - and the last episode had some explicit segments where one of the characters was watching P - and they shows clips and audio. Luckily it didn't lead to PMO for me - but last night I started having dreams where I was watching P in my dreams - slippery slope!
     
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  14. OhWhenThe

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    I jerked it to anything with an attractive woman in it, surely I wasn't the only one lol.
     
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  15. clapas

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    Do you know what is a generalization? If you and some other outliers represent 0.1% of the population, then I will still say "people don't jerk off to TV shows."

    On the other hand, I will say "people jerk off to porn," even when someone comes and says "I watched porn but I didn't jerk off and surely I wasn't the only one."
     
  16. SelfControlIsTheGoal

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    Because the group who proliferate Porn in the world are also disproportionately doctors
     
  17. josedelamuerte

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    Same here. I got started fapping on TV shows. As a teen I had a computer in my room with a TV card in it, and I'd stay up late with video capture software waiting for spicy scenes in late night movies. I had a stash of recorded scenes on my hard-drive. I think that people who got started on streaming porn-sites, or even sexy YouTubers or Twitch girls would find TV content way too vanilla to be exciting. But I still definitely get triggered by it.

    I was binge watching "Chernobyl" the other day, and before one of the episodes there was a warning about frontal nudity. I was actually relieved to discover that it was due to coal-miner penises. A whole bunch of coal-miner penises.
     
  18. lyricalcolors

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    So I went through all the psychological literature I could find on it about a year ago. There actually isn't any evidence that porn is damaging to the general population. Sounds weird given the state of no NoFap right? Well it seems to me that it's personalized. Some people are more driven to it than others, and a small enough segment of the population is vulnerable that it doesn't reach statistical significance. If that is the case, there is no reason for doctors to spend time warning about porn when they could be warning about heart disease, which will save many more people. What does reach statistical significance is the amount that you masturbate though. Only the amount one masturbates is negatively correlated with life satisfaction and satisfaction with sex life, not porn use. So it's likely the that the M part of PMO is the most damaging to the most people. It's correlation though, so it could be that masturbating causes you not to find sex partners, or that we start masturbating more because we don't have sex partners, or something entirely different causes both. So the best way to go, is if you think it might be causing you suffering, give it up for a while and see if it changes anything. What lots of porn (as well as gaming) does likely cause is dopamine exhaustion, causing most other activities to be less stimulating and normal healthy activities to be less attractive.
     
  19. Humble Sir

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    One other aspect that is important to appreciate is that modern porn + high speed internet available to the masses is a relatively new thing and it takes a while for the science and medical community to catch up with all the negative effects of it. I remember reading somewhere that in Germany in the 1930s they use to sell crystal meth as an over the counter medicine and it took years for the medical community to notice the negative effects of it on the population. Needless to say, I'm not inferring that porn = meth, but you get the gist - it will take a while for the science community to catch up. Perhaps a good example is gaming and computer addiction - it took years for science to appreciate the negative effects. It also does not help that the porn industry and some of the mass media outlets treat nofap as some religiously motivated cult.
     
  20. recoome

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    true.
    also in mainstream media being a virgin is considered a bad thing whereas promiscuous men are treated like gods.

    media is highly manipulative. ive cut off my cable connection and dont regret it.
     

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