Gosh damn it's tough, seeing women's breast sticking out...

Geez, just imagine it makes my balls hurt already. During the summer girls wear all kinds of clothes to attract male attention, a cleavege is like soft porn for me now. Before in my porn days it did not really effect me at all.

 

Haha, I see this all the time down-under where the weather is generally warm during the day all-season. During summer, women cannot cover themselves at all. Already as soon as the weather is warming up towards spring, women are wearing black see-through tights and I can see their rumps and underwears in detail. Yes, it bothers me even though I was brought up on the beach because we're living in the city and we're supposed to be civilised enough to understand what modesty means in the modern (if not religious) sense. Nearly all the women here show off their cleavages.

Unless they're religiously brainwashed (you know which group I'm referring to, I don't want to mention them more than the media already does; they're quite prevalent here in Sydney) to cover themselves up and keep away from men (because, as they are taught, besides the teachings of godly chastity and wait-until-marriage-only-one-day, we're all potential rapists or naturally, sexually perverted pigs).

Women think that by showing off they are attracting attention, for social and economic benefits... The rest is for you to figure out what their real intentions are. It's obvious that they are sexually frustrated, though, or else they would not be copying the fluff girls in MTV.

 

But you guys seriously need to calm down and maybe look for dancing schools in your area? Learn how to dance and exercise your stationary bodies, so you can hit the clubs and dance with one of these lonely poor attention-seeking virgins before they become public property for the next porn flick. Don't leave these women alone, as long as they are REAL women and NOT virtual ones

Women love a man who is full of athletic energy and knows how to dance, and charm her with his talents... Believe me, this will save you from having to shower her in money if you invest in your own body and entertainment skills. I'm saying this from experience, so don't lose hope or leave town yet

Women are not attracted to quiet, shy and reservedly insecure men.

 

It saddens me to see that your generalisation of women shows you do not have respect for them.

 

One of the hardest things a man has to master is the image of a female; not being prone to her flesh, but looking her straight in the eye (literally & metaphorically). In due time. Just remember, there's nothing wrong "admiring" a woman's body, but when that's all you see.. mind ain't right.

 

Generalisations insult individuals. If you make stuff up and believe it applies to everyone it is only yourself that is losing out.

 

Being what women WANT you to be is probably the lowest form of insecurity imaginable. I don't believe in the motto "fake it till you make it". Be yourself.
Never try to impress a woman, because if you do she'll expect you to keep up the standard until what ever you do have together dissolves. Don't be that guy who jumps through hoops to impress women.

I'm not much of dancer, but I sure can work a room without buying attention. I'm such a prize!

 

If you are able to respect women, unlike us, then you wouldn't have been addicted to PMO and come here in the first place. By the way NoFap teaches us respect for women. I really don't when I come here myself to learn how to respect women and stop objectifying them as sexual objects.

What are you doing here then, if you are able to attract real women?

 

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People don't watch and masterbate to porn only because they can't get the real thing. I had no problems whatsoever being able to have sex with pretty much whatever women I wanted. I was a manipulative piece of shit and porn was the fuel to that fire in me. I was addicted to sex and pornography and to this day I still need to come here for support and to give support. Having sex with real women doesn't make you unable to get addicted to pornograpy as well.

 

I know that, dude, and I feel bad to make the insinuation that Perusan and Southpaw00 are having no luck with real women... But, I'm still arguing that we aren't able to respect women if we are addicted to PMO more than we are "addicted" to women. We aren't even respecting ourselves.

 

So does that means I have no chance of getting a woman then?? I might as well give up and enjoy porn for the rest of my life

 

@Shadowscholar your probably right I should learn to dance, been wanting to do that for a while now. I do think we should prevent the good girls from becoming victims of porn movies, I think church is a great place to meet a good quality girl, however sometimes their being suppressed and sheltered causes them to lash out even worse later on.

I do go to Church every week, but the women there are always pretending that they are full of holiness and innocence. They are always pretending that they are angels and have no desires for men (like they are all virgin Marys) other than religious men who can quote scripture day and night. I have given up on these unnatural kinds of women and besides I have little tolerance for religious hypocrisy. Women in the clubs and fitness centres are usually "pretending" to be the opposite of that. At least where I am, every young women pretends that they have had multiple boyfriends (even if she's only 20) and proudly deny that they are virgins (even though most of them probably are to start with).

No, you don't have any chance unless you win the lottery. If you don't talk much or perform, no one is going to be interested in you at all even in being friends.

 

Again, labelling people as losers is not very constructive. I understand that what you are trying to say is that we need to improve ourselves to make our relationships work. But telling people they are losers, saying that only certain types of men get to have relationships and that women only like certain types of men is a childish perspective.

We all need to grow up because only by being mature, being respectful of ourselves and of others, being accepting of the limitations and differences in ourselves and others, only when we change to be these things will we have truly turned our lives around and be able to put this insidious addiction behind us.

 

I think the key with insecurity, and shyness, and social awkwardness, is to what extent?
Are you quirky eccentric and interesting, dark brooding and cool?
Or are you creepy slimy and Gollum-y?

Complete lack of confidence is unattractive even in a basic conversation between
acquaintances of any sex. It's not something people are drawn to.

 

haha..I totally disagree..ppl are lost so much in stereotyping everything...a girl has to be all girly and innocent and a guy has to be all manly and strong if they want to have any luck witht the opposite sex, but its not always the case..i can tell u by my own experience. .I am very shy and quiet and yes insecure and have a low self esteem, but I have had 2 girls who have asked me out..so if u really have a girlfriend or friends who are girls, then ask them if they like shy and quiet guys before making such an amateurish statement

 

Come down to Australia and go ask the ladies yourself then.