Almost 2 years NOFAP, 2nd year blood test results

1.) Did you do anything specific that resulted in a ~32% increase of your (total) testosterone? If so, I'd highly appreciate you sharing it with me/us.

2.) Only thing I can't see is your free testosterone or at least the SHBG value in order to calculate it. Total testosterone binds on SHBG and if SHBG is very high, you might actually end up with too less free testosterone and hence a low libido.

3.) I had a very long flatline myself. And long after my flatline, I still had very low libido and rarely morning-wood. It is a bit of a quagmire. On the one hand, a normal libido is different from the one you experience during excessive porn consumption. On the other hand, getting aroused by just thoughts isn't that easy as well. I personally added also a lot of pressure by trying to force it, which added the issue of performance anxiety as well.

4.) Does "0 M" mean zero mastrubation? If that's the case, then this might actually be the biggest issue. At least that's what I think it was for me.
You get erections at night, which you mostly don't recognize. During those erections, oxygen and nutrients are transported into your D in order to protect the tissue from damages. One factor that contributes to ED when we get older is that these erections happen less and less frequelntly, which then leads to scarring in the D.
When I had the issue, I came to a point where I considered that maybe the long abstinence and zero use of my D encouraged my body to accelerate this "aging process". So I started doing kegels for 15+ minutes a day and added 5mg tadalafil before going to bed. I don't recall how long it took, but after some time I started having morning-wood almost every day and it stayed like that even after quitting tadalafil again. That served somewhat as a kickstart and then the rest fell into place. I also added a few minutes of light mastrubation 1-2 times a week but if you got a partner, you definetly wanna skip that and experience "real" sex.

5.) As a final thought - after my long reboot I started meeting a woman again with whom I had a few times sex before. Although being beautiful, she was never 100% my type. But she was very easygoing, which was obv ideal in order to try it again with a real partner. We had sex on 2-3 occasions and my performance was downright horrible. I wasn't sure if it was just performance anxiety or if my D really still wasn't ready to properly function during sex. And this was some 3 years after quitting porn. It left me completely desperate.
One month later, I met a woman and she revived something in me that I thought was gone since my teens (I am almost your age). I was able to have sex with her for 2+ hours straight and felt literally like an animal filled with passion. That was only a few weeks after me being with the other woman and not even being able to maintain an erection for 10 minutes.
I added this experience as it showed me how important it is to have someone who really triggers you. I was perfectly healty with both women. However, in one set-up my "performance" was that of a borderline impotent man and in the other one I was like freakin Nacho Vidal. But I obviously hope your wife is the perfect fit for you and this last anecdote was superfluous.

 

For me, real libido differed to the extent that I didn't feel the harsh urges that I always had when consuming porn. I feel like my porn-related libido was always a mixture of desire for sex mingled with some sort of urge that addicts experience.

I was completely recovered with erections comparable to the ones I had before my 20's, but then I went through a phase of relapse for 7 months, reboot for 3 months, and relapse for 12 months up until today. So I don't know if I am at square one again, but it's obv bad.
To answer your question though, at the 1.5 year mark my interest in women was still gone to an extent that I visited several doctors in hope to find a physical reason. I didn't. It came back after what I described above. And then it needed some time to gradually build. But again, it came back a bit different than during porn. I had periods where I really felt a strong urge for sex. But in general it could be described as a healthier, more relaxed libido. It's like you wake up with morning wood or you get an erection but you don't feel the need to immediately act on it if there's not partner around. More like you can appreciate that you're healthy and, in case a partner is nearby, can act on it.

Give it some more time and start pelvic floor exercises if you like (and maybe daily 5mg tadalafil for 3 months as an accelerator). Don't create any pressure for yourself though like constantly assessing if it's back or not. It may take another 6-12 months, but it'll be fine. A scenario could be that you do the exercises and supplementation and this then leads to more morning wood coupled with some moments here and there druing the days where your D reacts to some sort of trigger. This then gradually builds and your interest grows again.

 

My testosterone level during PMO days was between 10-16.

Now, during rebooting, it's between 22-25.

I've done various tests during those two periods, so it was never a one off.

I believe we are neglecting the psychological and emotional side of this. The stress of being without PMO/real relationship plays a part on your psyche and therefore arousal levels.

I always felt getting a 'firmer' erection (or at least it felt a different type of erection - one more real) when fantasizing about a GF, but only for a more romantic loving manner rather than purely sexual manner in fantasizing.

I don't really have any side effects at the moment apart from low libido (but the desire to meet Girls is still there!), PIED and weight gain. The weight gain happens on the lower body (arse). Basically, I started noticing weight accumulating on my buttocks few weeks into my NoFap journey. At first, this increase of fat was only happening every few months. Then it was every few weeks, and then (since approx 2018), I've been experiencing the fat increase in buttocks every day at the around the same time. Now, I'm experiencing the ever expanding buttocks twice a day. Once upon waking up, and then at around 15:00. This isn't fluctuating weight, it's accumulating fat gain, so the buttocks is growing bigger every day. No idea how to stop it.

My theory is that the 'excess' testosterone is converting to estrogen. Have you noticed anything like that?

 

Try taking high dose Vitamin B6 and see what effect it has, only do this for about 10 days though as it's not meant for long term use. I haven't tried it myself but for a lot of people it knocked them out of the flatline.

 

I must say that real libido gets kicked off if you have mental issues such as anxiety. When everything is ok with my girlfriend, we both smile, etc, libido just naturally builds up. Its like a joy, happiness, positive vibes which just turns on and libido is there. When opposite, sex life just dies. Its like when you are not comfortable, your instinct blocks that libido.

Anyway, eat healthy and go to gym, lift some heavy weights. Take cold showers with hot sauna. Get connected with your body.

9 months here and orgasm doesnt throw me back to flatline anymore. Libido could be higher tho. Its quite low after all.

 

Can you briefly elaborate on that? Does it mean that your abstinent for 9 months and, during that period, had experienced that orgasms trigger new flatlines although previous ones actually seemed overcome?

 

Yes. I don't mean mental flatlines, but penis went back to "I don't respond at all" state for days or even a week.

 

During which period or up until which month did you experience this? I am asking in particular because during my first reboot I waited forever before I became sexually active again. In a second reboot though I felt ready after 3 months, acted on it, and then quickly felt similair to what you described. I guess this time I should wait a little longer even when my libido appears to be coming back.