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Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by need4realchg, Nov 14, 2019.

Are you struggling with paid-sex?

  1. Yes— and I would join the challenge/group

  2. No, but I would like to join too

  3. Yes— but not interested in a challenge or a group

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  1. I have noticed I need to return to journaling more; my thoughts once written down seem to betray my better nature.

    I also am asking myself today if I should pause Or cancel my Netflix account. I went months without even opening it during quarantine as I rediscovered music and was recording quite extensively. That I also found to be largely therapeutic.

    has anyone else used singing to heal ??
     
  2. Branchman

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    In my case it is dancing. With this quarantine I wasn't able to dance, but now we are beeing allowed to have a little bit of more social contact.
    I discovered I could dance in the spring of 2019. And it is something great because as you said "you can't do both things at the same time" dancing or singing and having the urges. And I love dancing because you don't have time to watch the others, you have to focus and concentrate in yourself. In the moment it is only you and your joy, or you and your dance couple.
    By the way, do you know any place or places where they country dance? I'd like to go someday to your state and proof my skills.
     
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  3. Branchman

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    How do you know it is more than 34 weeks?
    I believe that 90 days is too little time to make a significative change to the mind, I think that this is matter of years (some few years or a good amount of months).
    34 weeks multiplied by 7 (days per week) = 238 days, wich is almost 8 months.
    I'd like to read more information about neurplasticity.
     
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  4. Psalm27:1my light

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    My husband saw the most changes between 6-12 months.
     
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  5. Psalm27:1my light

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    Or should I say “ I started noticing dramatic changes then”. Almost 2 years and he’s still growing and changing. Acts more like a man should now. Takes so much more responsibility than he ever has in his life. Best of all..., he’s happy, genuinely happy. I’ve never seen this person in our marriage before. He was like this when dated, but literally two days into our honeymoon, something was off.
     
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    Thanks that is a good fact or datum, to not lower the defenses and keep motivated.
     
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    Congratulations! That's inpsiring!
     
  8. Psalm27:1my light

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    Just do something about your addiction now! Don’t wait until “ tomorrow”
     
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    I want to point out he works very hard at recovery. He didn’t just decide to quit and it happened, he has been trying to quit since we got married. Until we learned it was an addiction and he started reading, going to sa groups, going to a private group led by a csat, going to counseling, doing homework, until he recognize why he was addicted, he couldn’t stop. He hasn’t been perfect, but he’s definitely a completely different man. In so many ways. I also have asked for polygraphs to ensure he is telling me everything and the truth, because one lie will affect your recovery.
     
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  10. yes I learned about it here in nofap by a user and all the research that was done in researching the gray matter as an addict and as a person once freed from their addiction.

    It’s very encouraging and in fact , the brain regenerates more gray material once freed from porn than a person who never had this addiction. I will post the article for you.
     
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  11. Yep. I generally agree.

    For me it was the first 200 days. That was when I realized I could overcome.

    And tbh it’s hard to point to any evidence when the hardest work is being done. For me that was the most frustrating.
     
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    U still have the article, brother?
     
  13. Credit to @Fenix Rising :

    “You can read watch some lectures on this topic in my journal postings. There are some really good books on neuroscience and addiction. I especially liked Mark Lewis: Biology of desire: Why addiction is not a disease and Michael Kuhar's Addicted brains:
    https://www.amazon.com/Biology-Desi...ds=mark+lewis&qid=1564081492&s=gateway&sr=8-2
    https://www.amazon.com/Addicted-Brain-Abuse-Alcohol-Nicotine/dp/0134288580/ref=sr_1_1?crid=Q9XLN9NQDSJX&keywords=addicted+brain&qid=1564081746&s=gateway&sprefix=addicted+brain,aps,261&sr=8-1

    It's always good to know what are you dealing with, if you want to address the problem successfully. No one really gave me good explanation what addiction really is and how it works so I took some time and studied the topic. There so much misunderstanding floating around this subject. The sad truth is that even most addiction counselors don't understand neuroscience behind it, that's why so many bad advices are given to people troubled with addiction.”

    https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.php?threads/hopeless-case-searching-for-hope.187822/page-14
    https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.php?threads/hopeless-case-searching-for-hope.187822/page-18
     
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  14. ReasonToChange

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    One counsellor i seeked told me to try CBT. Any idea?
     
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  15. yeah it’s good ... lots of different therapy options use cbt. I like a person who sees me consistently to force me to have some accountability.
     
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  16. This bit of information was mind blowing when I understood it fully:

    “Brain transfers dopamine related (highly rewarding) long term repeated behaviors from Prefrontal cortex - PFC (rational thinking) to midbrain - "lizard" part of the brain (where automated behaviors are stored) to save on energy consumption resulting in Ego fatigue (loss of self control over behavior) -> PMO behavior becomes automatic (deep learned behavior). Addict needs to reconnect striatum (empowerment) to prefrontal cortex if he wants to take control over behavior (addiction) again.

    Additional to that, for most of us PMO was a coping mechanism (drug of choice) to suppress stressful emotions originating from underlying psych issues (dopamine, oxytocin and vasopressin during O have analgesic properties). When you abstain from O and don't address underlying issues stress will lead you to relapse. That's why complete lifestyle changeincluding getting psychological helpare necessary for successful recovery. Otherwise we'll forever stayed trapped in a cycle: abstention -> psych issues resurface -> stress buildup -> relapse -> abstention -> psych issues resurface -> stress buildup -> relapse...“

    I hate to dumb that down ... but your brain is trained to do what you tell it. If you retrain it you will be able to do what you have programmed it to do.

    it’s not hard.

    it’s called “choice “.

    It’s that simple. By the way .. “choice” is what differentiates animals from humans and what also limits God almighty from just removing our consciences and “re-writing” our consciences to be submissive and compliant. (That is a reference to the Netflix show “travelers”— which actually helped me understand THE PURPOSE OF CHOICE when in the series God is substituted with a non human super intelligent quantum-Machine that can make decisions for humanity when they pick the wrong choice.

    It helped me see ... my choice is the fruit of God. It makes me like Him and not like the animals he created me to dominate , not imitate.


    That is key to our struggle as ex-addicts bro’s. Your choice proves that you have an ability to overcome. If you deny your ability to choose, then you become a slave to your habits . Once you accept you have choice , you can try it once and see you can change.”

    deny you have a choice and now anything or anyone outside of the addict is both the problem and the solution.

    it’s not hard— it’s just 100 choices per day.
     
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    Hey guys. Sorry for the late reply, had alot going on recently. Also had some unfortunate incidents in the family.. But yeah I was definitely looking for help and wasnt looking to have my actions justified. I want out of all this mess. We definitely dont need lectures about how what we do is wrong either. We came here to help beat these PMO/sex/escort addictions in the first place. The above recent info is really helpful and I actually watched a video about a month back with similar info but much more simplified. The guy in the video talked about how sex addiction is basically run by fear. The mind attempting to create endless distractions so that we dont have to deal with underlying fears and stressful, unresolved emotions that we have going on.

    Here it is:

    This video really helped me alot.. it's actually very true and realizing this killed my cravings quite a bit. I was on my longest streak in a long time, which was 30 days after watching that video. I MO'd earlier but to be honest it wasn't even that fun. I dont even know why i did it, but I'm glad I didn't go to an escort which was what I initially planned and was scrolling endlessly on escort sites. Hoping this is my last relapse. Feeling good though.. Hope that video helps someone else like it helped me.
     
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    Hey everyone, hey @need4realchg!
    I hope your doing well it looks like it!
    Sorry I haven’t been back in a couple months. Long story but a little bit private for the open forum but main thing is I am well, I’ve kept clean and still am holding my promise for my 2020 resolutions and seeing 0 escorts. I’m so much happier and couldn’t be where I’m at right now if I wasn’t holding strong. I have to catch up on the last few pages from where I left off but wanted to let you guys know I’m still here and not going anywhere!
    If your struggling I suggest a good AP as that is very helpful. We are all here for each other or should be. Let’s beat
    This, don’t lose hope, I’ve failed so many times and i was at a very low end of myself last year and found help. I still battle with past regrets but know I’m not that guy anymore and I’m a different person. You can do it!
     
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    It is encouraging to hear (read) that from you!
    I am happy about you!
     
  20. you are always welcome in this thread bro !! Yeah I know too well how poisonous the shame-blame game can be. Especially as we try to find God through it. Love the resource and feedback!
     
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