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My View On Pornography

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by MUSTAFA2022, Sep 29, 2019.

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  1. MUSTAFA2022

    MUSTAFA2022 Fapstronaut

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    Porn is garbage made for losers. watched by losers. featuring losers. Suckers, and low self -esteem pathetic Spineless pricks. its just pure trash.
    Real men with Balls don't need to watch that shit. We are here on this world to better our lives. to be Creators and live
    Our full potential. And give our fullest gifts. What's porn? the exact opposite. Porn is losers shit

    if you're a loser watching that trash. you need to get a LIFE . free yourself from that garbage.
    Have healthy sexual relationships with women you love "girlfriend /wife". Find your true life purpose (career)
    and commit to it. and Never fall off.

    by "Career" I don't Mean the stupid lame 9-5 wage slavery. By which you dont have any Freedom. I mean living life fully on your own terms.
    and not Others. Being your own Damn Boss. Nothing and i mean nothing is Worth your freedom. There's One person in this World you should be concerned
    about their happiness and freedom and that's yourself, and your family.
    You are The Captain of your own ship. the Master of your own Destiny. Its up to you
    to be a Confident dominant man who Gets most out of life. Or be another Follower. a Castrated slave. a sheep. Remember
    In everything you Do in life , Competition ,work career or with women you are Dominant.

    Other point is Competition. Never back down from Competition. from a fight. It means basically be the best. fight the good fight
    Competition is gift. a gift From lord for the Betterment of Man.
     
  2. motion2082

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    Bravo but being your own boss is hard and working as a sheep in a team pays the bills with a lot less stress. Not everyone can make it on their own or be financially successful.

    i feel like I have found my inner peace a few times in my life but capitalism reminds me that without money I wont survive or will fall too fr behind my peers to ever get anywhere in my life. I honestly feel like a prisoner to money. Money is the curse of this world

    as far as your outlook on Porn you’re spot on there. Always turned off Porn to longer I go without PMO.
     
  3. First off, gate-keeping is probably the dumbest thing you can do. Being a "real" man is defined in so many different aspects, just because you don't watch porn/stopped watching porn doesn't mean you have to be rude about others watching it. Watching porn doesn't make you a "loser", watching porn robs you of your essence, skews your view of how sex is and slowly warps your mind into objectifying women. There are so many people out there who live a normal life, have a girlfriend who they have an active sex life with and still watch porn. Yes, porn is bad regardless of the way you look at it, but the ones that have a problem with it are us, not them. Eventually they will realize one day, and when they do, they'll go through the journey of getting rid of it on their own.

    I'm not going to sugarcoat what I'm about to say right now because I feel like you're genuinely just talking nonsense when it comes to low self-esteem. Porn medicates and also amplifies the deep-rooted personal issues that we've had before even turning to porn. I've experienced and still do experience low self-esteem due to the life experiences that I went through, due to the partners that I was with. You're pretty much talking down onto anyone with low self-esteem, which I will tell you, there are a fucking lot of people with low self-esteem, and I guarantee that people within your family have self esteem issues themselves, so coming in here and talking shit, calling people with low-self esteem spineless pricks because they're having a hard time getting over the addiction (they're trying) is probably the worst thing you can do. You're not doing a service for us, we're all equal people, we're not better than each other and if you genuinely think not watching porn makes you better than other people, then you seriously need to re-evaluate the way you see things. The only thing you're doing by not watching porn is just getting rid of a toxic habit. It doesn't make you any better than anyone, it just makes you healthier.

    I understand the point of your message, but you're genuinely wrong by saying things like that and hypocritical because you were in the same position as the people on here at one stage. You can't expect to give positive advice by calling people who watch porn/have a hard time "low self esteem pathetic spineless pricks". I'm not ordering a witch hunt, I don't need a witch hunt in order to confront something or someone when I know something is not correct, but please, if you're going to offer positive advice that sends out a good message and shows a good image of yourself, please re-evaluate the way you see people.

    Porn doesn't make you a loser. Not doing anything about the stuff in your life going wrong and being content with it is what makes you a loser.
     
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  4. randomdude27

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    Agreed
     
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  5. I mean you're right. Pornography is very loser-y, but I wouldn't call anyone who falls prey to this addiction a loser. Because if they're trying to fight it, they are not a loser whatsoever. If they are just making up excuses to watch it, then they're going down the wrong path.
     
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  6. Camelon

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    Very judging & objectifying post
    If porn only watched by losers then, hit this
    "95% of ur gender r losers"
    Posts like thar r n"t helpful for recovery at all........
     
  7. I'm another one of the "lowself esteem pathetic spineless pricks".
    Apparently there are some people that are into abusive messages to stop PMO. If it works for them, I'm happy, but hey, others prefer a more profound and compassionate path.
     
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  8. I understand, but the thing is that a person is saying this stuff to a site full of addicts trying to overcome their addiction without thinking rationally. And it's painfully obvious that no rational thought was put in either.
     
  9. Yes, I fully agree with you. I have only been here 4 days and I can't really distinguish genuine attempts to help and trolling.
     
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  10. On this forum, you are talking directly to people using porn and telling them - porn is made for loosers, only loosers use it.

    In essence you are degrading, demoralizing and insulting people who already feel degraded and demorolozed, as a result of struglighn with abuse.

    Your intentions maybe different, but in that case you have a big problem conveying what your intentions are.

    Porn is not made for loosers, it is made for people like anything else. There are millions of highly sucessful people, whose lives you would envy; that use pornography in one form or another.

    People that have fallen in life, and feel lost, turn to pornography to mend their broken self, but they are not who pornography is made for.
     
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  11. MUSTAFA2022

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    I was harsh. I was angry at the porn industry as a whole. my post was geared toward people who defend porn. Those who insist on its use. if I may hurt any of you. I apologize for it.



    But now that I'm in a better state of mind. I'm offering something of value to you.


    Thing is

    The purpose of my post was NOT to Hurt. or Lookdown at someone. my purpose is to build people up. not to tear them down. I know some of you guys are struggling with this.

    There were some facts I said earlier that needed further explanation.

    On Pornography:

    As you have said porn is very loser thing.

    Porn today is extremely disgusting. any perversion's out there. from facial ejaculations. to rough blowjobs to abusive hardcore like people slapping, choking, cutting, urinating, and even vomiting on someone. to sadists who get pleasure from torturing women. its Garbage. Pure Garbage the women are treated like shit. Some of them do commit suicide like August Ames. I do not watch this stuff.


    There are many dangers associated with porn use the biggest of them all is the toll it can take on your self-respect.

    once I've read in a book called The Porn Trap, By Wendy Maltz page 86.

    "Porn users who are into particular types of pornography, such as porn depicting molestation, rape, bodily injury, sex with children, and sex with animals, often suffer from tremendous feelings of guilt and shame. These feelings make it difficult to be genuine with others, have inner peace, and a good sense of self-worth."


    Porn lowers your self-esteem levels to very low. you'll have an inadequate self-image. every porn user reported feelings of inadequacy. and a feeling of being wrong. Porn user feels like Something is wrong with me


    Bottom line

    If you are committed to destroying this habit. but you watched it because you are a weak-willed person. You are not a loser. Work on developing your Willpower. The most important thing is the will. with the will, much can be accomplished. Without the will and keep fapping every day to your porn. You know what that person is. you can fill in the blank



    On Self-esteem:

    To face life with low self-esteem is to be at a great disadvantage.

    if you don't have Enough Respect For yourself. Other people just Overpower you. Your friends. The Media. they come in and just Overpower. You'll not even stand a chance. To succeed in life and thrive in this completive world. you MUST Have High Self-esteem. 7 Billion people competing with you. the most important thing Is Self-concept. self-concept is destiny. which is how you perceive yourself.


    Self-Esteem Can rise and fall Throughout age. There is a continuous feedback loop between our actions in the world and the level of our Self-Esteem.


    There is something called "the growth mindset and fixed mindset."


    Let's consider for the sake of this example a guy who is a total loser. doesn't work hard. doesn't invest in himself. doesn't read books. does nothing but to watch long hours of TV. is a couch potato. watches thousands of hours of porn. he sucks at school. and doesn't have a social life. his fashion sense sucks and is not good with girls either.


    The growth mindset says that guy can improve and evolve into a Successful person. by stopping the

    things that already making him a loser. for example, he may quit porn. he may start working out. He may improve his studying habits. he may invest in reading books. He may eat healthily. He may dress sharp. He may improve his Financial IQ by attending seminars & courses. He may learn how to start a great business. he may learn how to attract girls. be a more social person. the core of idea growth-mindset is "Self-improvement" with the will to improve yourself much can be accomplished. your self-esteem will be boosted accordingly.


    The fixed mindset fixed minded people believe that their level of intelligence is fixed. who they as a person cannot change. if they believe they are stupid. they are stupid. Of course, this is a faulty mindset. Anyone can change.



    9 times out of 10 people with the growth mindset win.

    i suggest you read Mindset: The New Psychology of Success by Carol Dweck. also The Six Pillars of Self-Esteem by Nathaniel Branden on this topic.


    Successful people have the belief that their hard work will be rewarded with success. that they are worthy of happiness. and they do not see life as doom or defeat.


    On Work:

    I'm not looking down on anyone who has a job. my point is if you are working at your present-day job & planning to start your own business. you work it as a side hustle. It's a short-term job. Also, Remember the fact that there are many restrictions to being an employee. you are limited in the amount of income you get. whereas being a boss. or entrepreneur there is unlimited upside potential. you were given this mind. you can use your creativity to add value to mankind. or how else people become millionaires or billionaires?

    On Adding Value

    They're adding value. Now i'm not sugar-coating things for you. there is some slavery to this. It's called wage-slavery. Society works as a pyramid. you have people who make things happen and those working for people who make things happen. Theoretically, it's impossible to have everyone rise to the top. you can't inverse the pyramid. they are jobs who do pay well. But I'm talking about independence and autonomy.


    How come jeff Bezos amassed a fortune sized at $150 Billion? this is an example of unlimited upside potential. millions of people enjoy his 2-day free shipping. Here is a Self-made man who has used his mind to add value. in the beginning he started his company out of a garage. and used to build his desk from doors.

    I may invest in his company. I may buy a stake of stock in the company. but I will not work for him. regardless of how giant his Corporation is. I don't like being told what to do. I like to take the lead. To run my Operation and be Great with it. impact the world with it. I aspire for Greatness. Riches. Success and when I die I know I've contributed something great that I'll be remembered for.


    The Discussion of Self-made Men was the discussion of Manhood itself.

    Steve Jobs was a Self-made man. Warren buffet is a Self-made man.

    There are countless examples of people who became successful from nothing.

    you can go after higher education. or self-education. you may get a loan to start your business. or pitch your idea to venture capitalists to launch your startup.

    A Man of this class. "The self-made man" Harnesses and utilizes the most important Masculine & Manly Qualities: Hard Work, Perseverance, Goal-Setting, responsibility. There is genuine Heroism in His struggle. And Something of Glory in his triumph.



    Good Man vs Great man


    Good Man: Does enough to get by. to survive. gets low to medium paying jobs. marries not the hottest woman there is but an average one. and coasts through life without any aspiration for greatness.


    Great Man: Demands from himself nothing but the best. Marries the best looking woman. He uses his mind & initiative to contribute to mankind. works hard. and strives for a worldly impact.




    On Being High-Value Man

    “Try not to become a man of success, but rather try to become a man of value.” — Albert Einstein.

    You must work-hard on yourself. and dedicate lots of your time to learning. You must retool your skillset. you must read lots of books. I aspire to read 100 books a year. that would be two books a week. or one every three days. I made my list. that would at least grow 25% in Skills each year.

    Books on business, marketing, sales, investing, stock market, psychology, health & fitness, etc.


    On stereotypes of society

    Society views Men who read lots of books as nerds. they place such a stigma on being smart.

    i say fuck that. there are ones who become CEOs, they are doctors, they are engineers. for example, Bill gates read a lot. Warren buffet he's famous for reading at least 500 pages a day. I haven't met or heard a single Super Successful person who doesn't read a lot. a lot.


    Probably the So-Called "Cool jock" would look for a job at one of those So-Called Nerd Men's Companies. As a wage slave.
     
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  12. MUSTAFA2022

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    Most porn users feel bad about themselves. and their porn use. that's a fact.

    how come porn medicates? What is sexy about watching other dude bang women? if shoot a video banging a porn star. would you jerkoff to it?
     
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  13. FoundTheFreedom

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    Thanks for posting this. I have just one issue with it and that's this:

    What is with this "hottest woman" jazz? Sorry but a hot woman is not always the best woman to be with. I don't pick what woman I'm with by how hot she looks to others. My SO, who is my pick, has a good heart, a highly intelligent brain, great integrity, the strength of character, and a good sense of humor. Looks fade when one gets older but personality and character never fade. I'm guessing you're pretty young. Young guys think about getting the "hot girl" but when you get to my age, there are vastly better things than looks. "Beauty is only skin deep". I've seen many "hot girls" that lose their "hotness" the minute they open their mouths. I prefer a good woman to a "hot" woman myself,
     
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  14. MUSTAFA2022

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    You're right about that. looks are entirely subjective. Men have different opinions when it comes to women.
     
  15. regardless of your philosophical stance on porn, focus on improving yourself
     
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  16. Karl47

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    I believe that there is nothing wrong with porn if you have everything in moderation, you gain experience at least
     
  17. ElderStatesman

    ElderStatesman Fapstronaut

    I don’t need to be convinced porn is bad, at least for me and I tend to think many others on these forums. That’s not the issue. The challenge is how to stop using it. For me, being realistic about my own challenges is more helpful than a mythical vision of stronger, better men vs. supposedly ordinary (implied weaker?).

    I have a long record of failure, so I’m not the expert, but I do have opinions. One of them, additionally, is that I believe in keeping a day counter. I admit might be prejudiced in this, or maybe not fully understanding how this forum works best for each individual.

    Good luck.
     
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  18. ElderStatesman

    ElderStatesman Fapstronaut

    As far as using porn “in moderation,” that by definition would not be an addict or obsessive user. As, I believe, most of us here think we have a problem, “moderation” is simply another word for “using.” You could argue that it’s subjective or relative, but bear in mind that in the world of addiction those concepts can be excuses. An alcoholic isn’t okay just because he’s drinking “just one beer” instead of guzzling aftershave.

    Good luck, though.
     
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  19. FoundTheFreedom

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    Yes, there is something wrong with porn. It is totally fake and unrealistic and doesn't really give an accurate accounting of sex. Also, a lot of porn furthers human trafficking and other atrocities. Those things must be eliminated. There is nothing wrong with masturbation, in and of itself, because it can tell you what feels good so when you do meet someone and have sex, you'll know what feels good and what doesn't so you can express that to your lover. You gain NO experience from porn - none at all. YOU are experiencing nothing when watching porn.
     

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