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Anime escapism - PMO is not the only way you run from your problems

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by AddBis, Nov 8, 2020.

  1. AddBis

    AddBis Fapstronaut

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    Well, I want to share my reality, which may look a little awkward to you. I started NoFap mostly because I wanted to improve my life and my capability to devote to my goals in life. Those goals inevitably involve studying hard, and in my inability to focus, I have often resorted to PMO in the past. But there are some other habits which I really like that tend to be a way of escaping from what I have to do. And anime (japanese animation, if anyone doesn't know) is a remarkable one. Should that be shameful, as I am 25? Maybe. I stopped to watch anime at the same time when I started NoFap, aware of the impact that it had in my discipline, but I am writing this post because last week it became very clear to me how it can get me out of reality. It was when I rewatched like 5 episodes of Attack on Titan (Shingeki no Kyojin), just to relax my mind (breaking my about 10 months without watching anime). I really don't watch so many animes, but this is probably the one I enjoy the most, and, because of that, just a few episodes was enough to make me feel really high and out of reality. For the last week I am recurrently remembering about the plot and thinking about the soundtrack, and I don't like that because I've been practicing mindfulness and I value being connected to the present moment. Maybe for coincidence, I lost a little of my desire to have contact with other people, with real people. It is like the contact with the characters make me feel that real people are not that interesting. I lost a bit of my confidence in looking people in the eyes and talking to them. Perhaps I am overstating and it has nothing to do with anime, but I think there is a real emotional impact of these stories which I really like in my mind.

    Just so you can see that I'm not building a crazy theory: there is a video available on YouTube called "The Curse of Evangelion", and it was part of the reason why I decided to abandon PMO and escapism. It tells about the way the reputed anime Neon Genesis Evangelion criticized its own genre, by warning the anime fans they were being imprisoned out of reality by the fantasies they liked so much, and how the author Hideaki Anno failed to succeed, since the franchise made a tremendous success and the fans immersed in the story itself, instead of immersing themselves in its message. And that failure of Anno is the curse of Evangelion.

    Anyway, I hope someone will benefit of reading it and reflecting on their own reality. If you feel like me, please share your experience.
     
  2. ThePeakWae

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    Escapism is a deadly trap indeed.
     
  3. MrIbrahim

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    I stopped watching anime because it has the same impact of movies and tv series on me. It also can triggers me. My first anime was death note then I watched aot and it captured me. Last anime I watched was ghost in the shell. Yeah, I agree with you anime (most of it) has a bad impact on us.
     
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  4. Daryn

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    Evangelion's my favorite anime of all time
     
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  5. AddBis

    AddBis Fapstronaut

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    I'm so glad I'm not alone hahahaha but I knew it. It has some good points indeed. For instance, AoT gave me some glimpses of freedom and comfort zone. But I think the emotional content is too strong and it mess with me a lot. So I'm now trying to evolve my thoughts through meditation, chats with friends, reading and reflective thinking. I think that that is closer to the physiological.
     
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  6. AddBis

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    I hate to hype that anime, but, damn, all of its development and its contents are brilliant! And the message it brings in the end was probably the main factor why I became able to think more clearly about many aspects of life in the last four years (I watched Eva in November 2016).
     
  7. Little Prince

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    I suppose I'm too old to have seen anime but I have had the same experience as you by consuming other media. I no longer use any media. For me it wasn't the fact that it made me imagine a different life but the high amount of dopamine my brain was getting. Not only were natural things like socialising unable to compete so I no longer wanted to do them it also gave me weird anxiety and made me socially inapt.
     
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  8. RQ7

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    Like anime at 25 years is not shameful at all
     
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  9. AddBis

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    I think the feeling of being outside reality that anime gives me is caused by this high amount of dopamine. And I feel exactly like you described: less attracted to social situations. And I also have a weird anxiety, probably because I feel attached to something I can't make contact with. This ambiguity is very strange, and perhaps the human brain has not evolved to feel or understand this type of sensation. Relationships with real people are the ones that make me feel happy and complete, they seem much less ambiguous, because either you feel really accepted or really rejected. This last Saturday I met with a large group of friends, people I hadn't seen for the last 8 months due to the pandemic, and it was very rewarding. I am planning AoT to be my last anime ever. I'm going to watch its last season when it's released and then do an emotional detox.
     
  10. AddBis

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    Thank you for your empathy. I agree that it made part of my growth, but now I think I must move forward in order to face reality. But that's just my case, I believe there are people who can watch anime without being so emotionally involved. I'm just not one of them.
     
  11. RQ7

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    Sure, i have the same feelings but with videogames,it's not shameful to play but i need to move forward too.
     
  12. V∧DΞR

    V∧DΞR Fapstronaut

    Escapism ahhh...... where do I even get started.
    So here I go.

    My Story:
    As a kid I loved to watch TV, one of my favorite shows were Doraemon(IK it is an anime), I loved it (Don't laugh!). Each day I used to watch it, dream about it the whole day(Daydreaming), it was my only escape from reality. TBH this escapism did not affect me much, my grades were good, relations with my relatives were all good.

    But when I was bullied in the last year of middle school, everything changed. I found PMO and anime(My friend told me about it.) I wasn't really addicted to PMO at that time.
    It was the year 2018, the first season of Takagi-San was released and YouTube had it, I watched it, TBH it was wonderful. Then, I watched other anime such as Tokyo Ghoul, Death Note, Haruhi Suzumiya, Angel beats, OPM, Nisekoi, Nichijou, .etc... Each day after school I used to watch an ep of anime, in total I used to watch 3 ep per day on an avg.

    My bullying stopped somewhere near Jan 2018, but the trauma remained. I used to MO multiple times a week since then.
    I slowly started to loose interest in anime and now I started gaining interest in Mangas. My first manga was 'Evergreen'. Here too I used to read Mangas and then create my own fantasies and daydream about it.
    I discovered smu! Mangas in early 2019 then, found and read he^t@! and then my life went spiraling down.
    My PMO increase to 5-6 times per week, daydreaming became Maladaptive, my grades dropped, my personality changed(Shyness, socially awkward) life became totally shit, suicidal thoughts(not serious), nihilist thoughts and finally PMO addiction (only Manga images, no vids).
    I restated NoFap in Jan 2020.


    My escapism: Manga, Anime, PMO and Maladaptive Daydreaming. PMO, Manga and Maladaptive Daydreaming were the biggest contributors, when I used to PMO, I used to feel I am doing something great, the truth is I was not. When I used to daydream, I used to think I am the protagonist who lived in a different world, but the reality was that, I was not.

    Escapism was a period of my life that was filled with countless lies, living in the world that never existed, wasting time creating it, building, destroying it(If you have MD you will understand). Studying became too hard. I felt hopeless. All this f@#ked me up, too badly.


    NoFap and improvement: 2020 was a shit year, but this year gave me an opportunity to get out of PMO, Anime, Manga. After staying around 150+(40d start in Jan, 102d start in June) days free from PMO and anime(30d free from Mangas, I don't want to read that shit again.). Nowadays, I feel that my life is coming back, I've never got this thought since a long time, I feel that there still is some hope left in me. Even if I can't give my actual potential in life, I can still do my best for now.
    I still do have MD habits but I feel that if I can quit MD I might even do better in life and now I am working to quit it and I will quit it.


    I know this post was kinda long, but tbh I wanted to get this off my chest.

    Thank you.

    Stay Strong.
     
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  13. I haven't watched for very long and it's worth it. But after I complete my reboot process one day, I'd love to go back and watch it. Attack On Titans and Vinland Saga looks fantastic in these days.
     
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  14. JTYeep

    JTYeep New Fapstronaut

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    Yeah, one of the things that's been tough is balancing out things that I like with the risk that sometimes the content is meant to get the reader/watcher excited. Still trying to figure out a healthy balance to prevent myself from getting too into something and letting my mind wander.
     
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  15. I’ve been watching anime for about 5-6 years and I’ve felt this sort of escapism as well. It’s hard to say if it has made me fall into PMO because I’ve lasted around 245 days and still watched anime during that time. With this new streak I’m going to try and abstain from watching anime to see if it’s an improvement or not.
     
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  16. AddBis

    AddBis Fapstronaut

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    Not long at all. I enjoyed reading your story. It's amazing that you are aware of and struggling with all this at such a young age. I didn't even know there was a name for "maladaptative daydreaming", and it's great to hear about it, as I've suffered from this on several occasions.
     
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  17. AddBis

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    That's what I intend to do, but I really think that anime is like porn in some cases, that is, it is difficult to maintain balance when the content is meant to get us excited, like JTYeep said.
     
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  18. ThePeakWae

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    It's porn, in some cases, going to need a site blocker to keep things under control.
     
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  19. AddBis

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    I'm very glad to know we're all facing similar challenges. We will make it together, fellows! Stay strong
     
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  20. AddBis

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    Is there any of those for anime?
     

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