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Catfishing Addiction

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by CV93, Nov 16, 2020.

Can anyone even relate to this?

  1. Ew, no.

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  2. Kind of, but not really

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  3. Can relate

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  4. Have done a similar thing

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  1. CV93

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    I've been setting up Tinder profiles of girls who I wish I could be with, but who have friendzoned me, in order to lead other men on and just straight up fuck with them. I have pretended interest and gone right up to agreeing to go on dates with them (creating fake whatsapp profiles as well, to make it really convincing), and then standing them up, blocking them, unmatching, moving on to the next victim.

    As I write this down, I almost can't believe that I have done something so low and deceitful and just plain mean. It's an activity that brings me a lot of shame, and I have sworn it off many times, but keep returning to it as it gives me a perverse, voyeuristic sexual thrill:

    1) seeing how easy it is for certain people to have sex,
    2) seeing these girls who I know getting hundreds of likes in minutes from attractive guys and understanding on a profound level why they keep me in the friendzone,
    3) seeing things from a hot female point of view and imagining how things would go down if I actually was them and was able to go on the dates I make as them.

    I know this is fucked up and I want to stop, so this is me getting it off my chest in all of its ugliness. Please feel free to share your thoughts.
     
  2. TimeToQuitNow

    TimeToQuitNow Fapstronaut

    Some things are better left unseen. You should delete these accounts
     
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  3. Trobone

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    I feel like you might have some resentment and anger issues to work through. Your writing references friendzone, shame, wishing you were someone else. All of these are huge mental and emotional issues that can take a while to work through with a specialist.

    It's not healthy, as the person above said you should delete the accounts and block the apps and end this. Then find someone to talk to about this.
     
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  4. Years ago after going through some serious traumas such as having both of my parents being diagnosed with terminal diseases, losing my job, being more or less homeless after a breakup, and lots and again lots of other stuff, I developed a porn addiction as a way to escape, long story short, I got addicted to doing similar things as you, but using pics of my GF who I love so dearly.


    I finally managed to quit and also tell her about it.
    I talked to her about it and we solved it, she knows about my struggle and has been my number one support, and I can’t be more thankful.

    Why did I do those things? I really don’t know, I think it was a way for me to feel some kind of validation in the darkness of everything else.
    When everything felt horrible, I could at least feel that I had something that others wanted, it was a thrill.


    I don’t know about your age, or about your background, but I was 22-23 and had been hiding from my emotions caused by all the shit I went through, for years, and I guess that’s why I kept trying to find ways to cope with it.

    We often do stupid things when we feel like shit and try to hide.


    First of all you need to stop, then you should try to ask yourself what’s making you act like that.
    Are you going through something or have you been running from your emotions for too long just like I did?
     
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  5. CV93

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    I'm not sure this is the place to discuss it, but I don't believe a "specialist" is any more qualified to witness me rant about my inner workings than a couple of strangers on an online forum, so I might as well take a stab at it.

    First of all, I have deleted all the accounts. Thanks for the advice. It was obviously the right move, but talking about it made it that much more pressing.

    I don't really know why I do this. All in all I have a good life, with plenty of people who care about me, a well paying job, and more than one girl who has told me in no uncertain terms that she wants to spend her life with me. I feel really dissatisfied with my life though. I think porn has played its part in this feeling, setting unrealistic expectations and raising the bar in a chemical sense for what qualifies as "feeling good". I went through a few rejections, but they weren't any more cruel or unusual than what the average human is apt to experience. What was maybe different was that I didn't have a coping mechanism for the feelings that came up. I still don't.

    Drugs, porn, exercise, intellectual pursuits, music, all have had their effect on me, but none have succeeded in filling the hole, in making me feel less humiliated by the experiences I went through, in stilling my craving to possess that which has been denied to me. The obsession has continued to grow and grow uglier and more immoral, a disgusting monster with which the still good and humble part of me is forced to share an ever narrowing space. I'm 27 now and I feel like if I don't make a change now I will soon be too weak and give up and that the rest of my life will consist in impotently bearing witness as this monster rapes every last good thing about me to death. So far my attempts at change have been unsuccessful.

    I believe quitting porn is one part of this battle, but there's so much else that needs to be adressed as well. And quitting porn is itself so daunting and difficult that it's taken me more than ten years to arrive here at day zero once again. What about quitting lies altogether? Holy shit right?

    I realize there can be little sympathy for a selfish liar afraid that his web of lies might burn him as it catches fire, and I don't ask for your sympathy. If you've read this far, I just want to thank you for hearing me out.
     
  6. RDucky

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    Know that women aren't the same as men. These women that you seem to think are completely fulfilled and living in nirvana is a fantasy of yours, not reality.
     
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  7. CV93

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    This is correct and nota bene. Obviously women have different psychologies which make them unable in most cases to appreciate their own power and endowments. This does not change the allure of my fantasy in which my mind animates and controls their bodies, wields them to command armies of loyal simps to shear and lives the prosperous and flourishing life of an aristocrat. The fact that the real women on whom I base my fantasies are incapable of harnessing this power, and seem fated instead to low-paying service jobs, serially dating unambitious, visionless men and single motherhood, only makes the existing state of affairs more depressing to me.
     
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  8. TimeToQuitNow

    TimeToQuitNow Fapstronaut

    The women you know are very much capable of harnessing this power. Some of them may actually realize this as well. I think what is more likely is they have no interest in it. They probably just want a nice guy to have a relationship with. At least that is how most girls I've ever met want. Just focus on yourself dude. You'll be alright
     
  9. CV93

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    This is what I mean. They are unambitious, passive, not obsessed with conquest, not possessed of a lunatic impulse towards mastery of men. I want what Galadriel describes as "a QUEEN not dark but beautiful and terrible as the dawn! Tempestuous as the sea, stronger than the foundations of the earth. All shall love me and despair!" They want "a nice guy to have a relationship with." We are not the same.

    Hence the desire to create this frankenstein bride.
     
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  10. Trobone

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    Speciailists don't listen to you rant. They guide you to the inner sources and help you work them out.
     
  11. TimeToQuitNow

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    Men are often more into conquest than women so it makes sense for a guy to be into a dominant woman.

    If you don't mind me asking, what type of porn do you watch?
     
  12. CV93

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    Femdom, obviously.
     
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  13. CV93

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    Do you have experience working through your issues with a specialist? I have tried that path and always found them to be lame and unhelpful and basically it seems like they just pity me while I talk at them about my problems.

    I think this may be due to the asymmetrical relationship. If I'm talking to someone regularly about my problems, but they don't open up about theirs, it makes me feel like my perspective isn't valued. I would rather talk to a friend, but I don't have anyone in my life who I would feel comfortable talking to about this stuff. That's why I'm here.
     
  14. Trobone

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    I have been seeing a CSAT for the past 5 months. I find her work extremely helpful in coming to realizations and giving advice. Her homework assignments have been eye opening.

    I did see a "talky" therapist beforehand - and she wasn't helpful. Seeing a specialist and asking her to kick my ass was the difference.
     
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  15. modernstore99

    modernstore99 Fapstronaut

    So off the bat, this is definitely not something a lot of people can relate to directly.

    HOWEVER, I have had issues with sissy porn and AGP, so I think our mindsets about se, relationships, and ourselves must be similar.

    I used to feel very un-masculine, I was very shy and awkward, and all my friends were having sex and I wasn't. Porn, especially sissy porn, really internalized these feelings. The idea of having my penis locked up, dressing up as a sexy woman, and getting fucked as a woman was incredibly arousing.

    For a while, I did RP being a sissy with men and woman online. I even sent some pictures and did some "tasks" for them.

    The rationalization of the fantasy of sissy porn is that you are not "manly" enough to be a man, so you should be a woman. Additionally, you should be the sexiest and sluttiest sissy. The really deep hypnos and captions say that by becoming the biggest sissy, you're able to control the men that you wish you could be, and that's your way of "getting back at them".

    The point is, I understand the things you've done, and why it may feel empowering satisfying. Firstly, any behavior can be linked with arousal with PMO, no matter how strange or concerning. But even more so, some fetishes and actions can be perceived as "taking back" or "taking control" of your inadequacies or insecurities, when in reality you're really just reinforcing them.

    You have to stop doing this. It may not explicitly be "porn", but this is highly arousing situations and behavior that is messing with your mind. Stop, do a reboot, have sex, and leave this behind.

    I know it may seem embarrassing or humiliating to have done this and then try and live a normal sexual life, but you just have to leave it all behind. Specifically with this behavior, I would not tell anyone because I don't think people who have not experienced what we have will understand why you did it.

    I'm a big fan of honesty and openness in relationships, especially when it comes to porn addiction and it's consequences. I tell almost every partner I've had that my dick probably won't work perfectly, and all my long term partners know about my porn addiction. I've never told anyone about the fetishes I've been involved in, but once I get married, I think I will tell my wife about the extent of my crossdressing, chastity, sissy porn, and other induced fetish activities. But I would not tell tell her about what you have done.

    You don't beed to be embarrassed or afraid, but don't tell anyone lmao.
     
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  16. As a person who has been catfished multiple times I’ve always wanted to know what drives people to do such a thing. I was mentally scarred for 3-4 years because of it and had severe depression and isolation. Some of it could have been my fault for falling for such things and not learning from the past.

    From your point of view I can kinda understand now why people do it.
     
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  17. JoeinUSA

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    I don't think your behavior is fucked up so much as it would be important and insightful for you to get to the root of the behavior and understand why you do this and what you "gain" by it. As this is broken behavior, then what you "gain" from it is most probably an attempted but far-from-successful means of self-medicating whatever has wounded you from the past. The same wounds are probably what also motivate you to use pornography and to masturbate as a way to placate the same wounds, however unsuccessfully all these addictions of yours solve your inner problems as well. So, you can see the importance here, then, of getting to the root of this behavior you now describe..

    I can think of two opposite scenarios for this kind of behavior that real guys have gone through themselves. Maybe yours is somewhere in the middle or something else altogether.

    The behavior might stem from a desire of having wanted to be a straight female - or feeling like a straight female in a male body, but because one can't be a straight female and can't draw guys toward oneself like other females can to themselves, one feels a certain pleasure and satisfaction from one's inner female rage and vengeance (i.e., hell has no fury like a woman scorned) to punish other guys for not satisfying one in otherwise wishful but impossible ways.

    Or, one might be a beta male who is intensely jealous of alpha males who get all the girls while one gets no one and therefore one feels an inner rage to punish other males by drawing them toward fake females so that one can satisfy an inner vengeance and crush alpha guys or humiliate them in the same way that one has felt crushed or humiliated by either them or the girls who rejected one?

    What's your story?

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  18. SickSicko

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    Wow, and I though I had issues, I mean that's dark and twisted and I kind of like it, but serves no purpose, why do you waste your time doing it?

    If I have to do a quick analysis based on what I've read so far....you are a repressed dominant person that doesn't know how to handle rejection and humiliation, and sublimates it via femdom fantasies, and that enjoys taking the rol of the dominant/advantageous/humiliating one and giving rejection as your way to deal with that emotion.

    But hey, what do I know, is just my take on it, I might be completely wrong.
     
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  19. CV93

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    Interesting. Would you be willing to tell me about some of the assignments you've gotten that helped you out?
     
  20. CV93

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    Thank you for your reply and I agree about the way forward from here. While this behavior isn't the same as porn and doesn't even involve sexual stuff dorectly, to my brain it does have a very similar effect, and effectively primes me to relapse. For this reason, as well as the fact that it's actually hurtful to the people who are unwillingly involved, I need to stop.

    Funny thing is, I have told some female friends aboit this "hobby" of mine, and they all acted like it was great and encouraged me to continue, as though I were writing a book or engaging in some kind of performance art. I don't know what to make of this. Were they being sincere, seeing it as a kind of Borat-type spoof, a little revenge on those "douchebag" guys on tinder woth whom they must doibtless have had encounters, or did they just tell me what they thought I wanted to hear? In any case, I think theirs turned out to be pretty bad advice and in retrospect it would have probably been better not to share.
     
  21. CV93

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    I've given this question a fair amount of thought. Clearly there's a bit of both going on in my heart. I often wish I could embody a hot woman and use the combination of her body and my mind to wreak havoc.

    I don't feel the desire to punish other guys for being luckier than me. In fact, the main reason I want to stop doing this is because the guys I matched with all seemed really chill and nice and I felt bad deceiving them in a potentially hurtful way. I would, however, want to punish the girls in my life by outdoing them, being hotter, more interesting, more powerful, more fun than them, snatching the best men, looking down on them as they have done to me, etc.

    You could say this is the other side of my femdom obsession, an opposite but complementary coping mechanism for the humiliating experience of having been judged as inadequate. Both are ultimately futile, because they don't change basic facts:

    1) on the one hand, I will never be able to enact this specific reversal of fortunes, on account of my physical body

    2) on the other hand, I'm not a complete "beta" who can't get any girls and therefore can never fully accept the intoxicating dream of femdom slavery.

    I'm condemned ro operate in the limited sohere of freedom that belongs to me.
     

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