Don't download dating apps!

I agree that ultimately it's much better to approach women in person. You know what I really liked? Speed dating! I did it for the first time, virtually, a few weeks ago and it's SO much better than dating apps. I got to have conversations with multiple women, 4 minutes each, and at the end, if you had someone you wanted to know better, you'd let the moderator know via email and they would email you back if any of the ones you picked were also interested.

When I was 25, I had a LOT of dates from dating apps and I'm definitely not a Chad. But I've been using dating apps since I was 23 and most of the time, I had dry spells. So, I feel like it depends sometimes, even if you don't fit the criteria you mentioned above. But I've had plenty of dead-end conversations, yes lol.

 

Not technically a scam, just human nature

Mostly waste of time for the average joe? Absolutely

 

Definitely a waste of time for average joe. If you’re a Christian or religious and are looking for a life partner, God in His providence can bring both of you together. But other than that, it’s a waste of time and money for the average person. I’m not MGTOW but the people in that group did a lot of experiments proving that it’s no good for the average man and that it’s best he stays away from it.

 

My uncles score chicks online (and in person) and they're in their late 50s and 60s (young chicks too sometimes). They do have good bodies and a chad personality, but they're only like 5'9. My dad use to score chicks online before he met my mom too and he has never had a six pack in his life and he's only 5'7 (good looking and somewhat chad-ish though). He had the most chicks out of all my uncles. But yeah, it's definitely still a lot better to just approach chicks in person.

 

Personally I can’t agree with this because I had a different experience, I was addicted to porn from 12-24 years old. I essentially had a permanent flat line for years. It was one September night in 2016 when I hit rock bottom, broke down and decided to turn my life around. One of those steps was to try a dating app.

The girl on soon met on there is now my girlfriend of 4 years and counting, granted I know different people can have different experiences.

 

Ye some people get loads of sex cause they are Chadtastic others get rejecyed for years on ens on dating apps. Top post met his supposed soulmate there. I for one think dating apps are pathetic and have never ised them. I'm sure that if I have used them, I'd be met with an overwhelming failure, just like OP. As pragmatic as those apps are, I'd never want to start a relatoonship with a woman througj a dating app. It's beacise deep down sje knows you were too afraid to ask women the traditional way and you resorted to the app. It's unworthy. You know it as well. But both of you use the app out of weakness of character. And two weak willed people don't make two happy people. They make two extremely weak willed people. For hookups I'd approve tho, but you better be Chad

 

He does have a point that a dating app makes it much easier for both men and women to approach each other because, at least for me, there's a feeling that the in-person anxiety of approaching people is removed with just a swipe and a message. It removes the anxiety, but it simultaneously creates a different type of anxiety: "will they respond?" "what can I say to make her like me?" "should I text this?" "oh no, she's only using one or two words" etc. So, it's almost like we might as well just approach men and women in person because the anxiety might be lurking, but the anxiety is often worse than the situation really is. When it comes down to it, the worst that could happen is that the other person is not interested and/or the conversation just falls flat.

I believe that, if the "spark," is there, online or in-person, then it's there, but if it's not, then it's not and it shouldn't be forced, no matter how attractive the other person looks.

 

Only overweight or unattractive girls use online dating and even those ones are entitled and will reject you for the next guy in line. All the ones that I've dated from all the dating apps have mental issues and baggage too

 

You see very attractive girls every day.
What's stopping guys from approaching these girls ?
Fear
Do they wanna get ride of fear ?
Yes
So why don't they approach if they know that approaching can make them free to talk to any girl at any time?
They keep listening to their inner dialogue telling them it's not normal, that rejection hurts, that they're not good enough blablabla

There's thoughts, and there's reality.
On the last day of my life I don't want to tell myself that I haven't been able to say even hello to a girl I liked.
I made this decision 3 years ago, it's been 3 years that I've been talking to girls in the street every day.
And every fucking guy should do the same thing.

No dating apps. It's just reinforcing your insecurities. What guys need is abundance so they can choose and respect girls instead of hurting them because they don't have a choice

 

I found dating apps harder than meeting girls in person, I've got a few girls' numbers cold approaching but had zilch success on dating apps. I agree with the OP, most girls I met on the apps weren't my type. maybe website dating is better, will give it a go. Nothing to lose ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

I noticed something. Social like Instagram and dating apps like Tinder give women too much power on males.
That's not the usual incel post or thought.
I just thought about the fact that in real life most of the girls won't have the gut to treat you like shit, block you, feel so much important than you.
Real-life should be the best dating app.
Women on socials feel too strong and powerful.
And men are seen like poor dogs, jerks and losers.
So just go out into the real world.
Forget about all the stories of Tinder or Instagram, there you won't find love or attraction.
Maybe the hot chick who rejects all the jerks on Instagram might find you brave and beautiful only because you treated her like a real-life person.
You talked to her in real life. She is nothing for you that just a normal girl into the real world.
Most of the influencers are useless into the real-life, remember that.
So the next time, just go out, talk to people, and start to feel important as you really are.

 

They're all using filters to go from a 4 to look like an 8 and angle the camera to hide the extra 50 pounds. None of them look good in person. Don't trust appearance and personalities from what they look like online.

 

i can match with like 3 people and thats about it and none are attractive or my type. oh well, guess i just have to find some way to accept ill be single for the rest of my life. unless something changes with my school.

 

So much truth in this thread. Look, at the end of the day, the apps give women all of the power, as they're getting HUNDREDS (if not more) swipes a day, while most of us are just getting a handful if we're lucky. I had a female friend who signed up with an app, and within an hour she was already talking to a guy. Meanwhile, I go months at a time without getting a match. Only the hottest guys are going to get their attention. So like others said, focus on meeting people in real life instead, where your personality and charisma can shine though.

 

Wise words

 

No shit.

 

Here's my take on this: Yes there are superficial women. You won't see me touch a dating app ever because that's probably where the most superficial ones are. I'd stick to real life