P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

Thanks dor the replies. I am 28.btw. I used to work as an accountant. Now I have not been able to work since the last time I came on this forum. I think I have to go on disability! Symptoms are becoming worse My doctor prescribed the Ativan (lorazepam) for the anxiety as needed and trazodone for sleep. I hestitate to try the Ativan, because I read horror stories abour withdrawal, but right now the anxiety and depression is so bad, plus almost 50 more strange symptoms, I am willing to take it. The trazodone does not work for sleep at all. I am right awake with panicky feelings. I am so done with life right now. I don't really believe in a specific god, but I think killing myself will cause bad karma in the afterlife. It's insane porn can cause this, and people still deny it. My doctor said it's not possible that porn addiction can cause this. He said you have burn-out and an anxiety disorder, take the Ativan and trazodone pills and stop worrying about it. I AM DONE WITH THIS CRAP, I AM LOST, MY LIFE IS OVER.

 

I have all of the symptoms plus many more. I am too tired, brain fogged and unmotivated to list them here though.

 

All my hormones are fine, I went to doctor and he found norhing on me. Blood work was perfect. The only thing I did was stop PMO. I never used a drug in my life. I used to exercise, eat very healthy, never smoked and have not drunk alcohol since I was 19. I only used to drink sporadically, same with caffeine. You are ignorant as hell. You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. Just leave!

 

Don't feed the trolls!

 

On month 4 today. Have had several 4-5 month streaks with no binges in between. All together i would say that i am 2 years into PAWS. Social anxiety and depression on a daily, suicidal thoughts. Before paws hit i felt amazing on nofap and it seemed like a fix to all my problems, hence why i think its paws. Maybe im permenantly damaged? Maybe i just need to keep going? I PMO'ed 5+ times a day from age 12-19

 

What ever you do DON'T listen to your doctor about it being burnout! Burnout doesn't feel like PAWS. This is what my shrink told me 12 years ago! If you use his logic then there's no addiction and no reason not to relapse. If you start the mental pattern of denying the addiction and relapsing then it will be Groundhog Day and it never ends. It's bad enough that it takes so long already. Denial is the ultimate enemy of recovery. Doctors are completely ignorant about porn addiction and withdrawal. The traz will help you sleep at higher dose. No matter what though, remember that getting through PAWS is about facing reality instead of using a crutch. Your mind has to re-adapt to living in reality every day without any euphoria fix whatsoever. Any attempt to escape only prolongs the journey.

 

How many good days do you get per month, or week?

PAWS can take up to two years with complete abstinence. Since you haven't been completely abstinent, it will possibly take longer for you.
I've also read a conjecture stating that relapses during PAWS are much more detrimental than a relapse outside of PAWS. Our nervous system is more sensitive.

 

I would honestly say 1 "good" day once every 2 months or even less. When i started Nofap in my early streaks i would ride the benefits as they would come frequently but that has changed the further i come into the healing process

 

I'm sorry to hear that. But the fact that you got benefits early on shows that you are certainly not permanently damaged. Stay true to yourself, and stay away from P-subs and fantasizing and you will get there. PAWS is never permanent!

 

This lowlife dog even sent me a PM calling me a clown. I sent him my phone number, see if he calls back. If he lives in the Netherlands he better come to my doorstep. I got nothing left to lose anyway. Come on, I might be feeling like shit, but you can't imagine what I'm able to do to your punk asss biitch. Call me! We will see..... Punk internet warrior.

 

I buy you a plane ticket to Rotterdam clown. Come at me.

 

Watch what this loser hypocrite wrote in this thread. Check my post!

https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?threads/the-good-and-the-bad-from-nofap.297675/page-2#post-2829521

 

You are European. More laughter would be given. I am Latin

 

Ignore and move on please click his profile and hit "ignore"

 

Hi, I have a question. My initial withdrawal from nofap was extremely tame, i'm not even sure it was PAWS (only real symptom was no libido). However, I then went back to PMO for 2 years because I thought the no libido would last forever if I didn't.

Over these 2 years of PMO, even though I never had any urges for it, my symptoms worsened to the point where I am completely empty, anxious and depressed now. I finally made the connection and I'm now on an 80 day streak but have seen no improvement whatsoever. Do you think I can recover or have I caused permanent damage because of so many relapses during what should of been my recovery stage?

This question is mainly aimed at DGZ because of your comment: "I've also read a conjecture stating that relapses during PAWS are much more detrimental than a relapse outside of PAWS. Our nervous system is more sensitive" But if anyone knows anything about this some help would be extremely appreciated.

Thank you

 

you had no urges during those 2 years so you were already in a pretty bad situation
you need a full yearhardmode reboot, no porn, no masturbation, no edging, no nothing
having no libido is not tame, this means you'd already hit rock bottom before you even stop, these are the most severe cases

 

All that PAWS stuff is speculation. Don't believe in any of this.

For the sake of your psychological health I advise you to stay away from these forums.

There is no evidence that using pornography after a while will develop these problems, except ED and affect libido.

The Middle Ages invented witches, and evidently, out of nowhere people claimed to see them.

Don't worry about the libido. It comes back as the weeks go by. So do erections.

I'm telling you, I've been doing streaks for years and I've never felt any lasting damage as some idiots say around here.

NOFAP is an ideology. I'm really sure of it. This site can be as harmful as redtube.

 

All that PAWS stuff is speculation. Don't believe in any of this.

For the sake of your psychological health I advise you to stay away from these forums.

There is no evidence that using pornography after a while will develop these problems, except ED and affect libido.

The Middle Ages invented witches, and evidently, out of nowhere people claimed to see them.

Don't worry about the libido. It comes back as the weeks go by. So do erections.

I'm telling you, I've been doing streaks for years and I've never felt any lasting damage as some idiots say around here.

NOFAP is an ideology. I'm really sure of it. This site can be as harmful as redtube.

 

This is one of the great mental problems that this site leaves people with: being compared to others.
Remember that your body is unique.

 

And is the idiot who claims this a doctor or urologist or does he have a professional title in health and sexual medicine?