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P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Fenix Rising, May 12, 2019.

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  1. Younameit

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    Wrong
    it wasn't the nofap community that came up with this term
    go to any drug forum of guys who were addicted to benzos, opioids or other hardcore drugs like cocaine, methamphetamine etc and you will stumble accross many people who are suffering from PAWS, for years and years
    this is a recognized medical condition, there's no speculation whatsoever about paws, it's 100% scientific, it's crazy you're making such fake claims
     
  2. Younameit

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    bro.. if I castrate you, will will have no drive, no motivation, no energy, will become lethargic etc etc etc, a myriad of problems will ensue
    libido is everything, the reason human beings do everything that they do is because of the drive to fuck, real talk, read think and grow rich by napoleon hill, he mentions that as well
    not having libido can consequently cause a lot of negative symptoms
     
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  3. It is possible that NOFAP is causing harm to people and no one even knows it.

    I hear this a lot here: people do NOFAP and it gets worse. Maybe the body was already adapted to a rhythm.

    Although it seems to me that you also abused masturbation for six years: six to twelve times a day for six years is too much.
     


  4. You cannot compare chemical addictions with behavioral addictions. Porn is a behavioral addiction. In fact, your brain doesn't really know what porn is. It just responds to a sexual stimulus.

    I recommend a thread on YBOP where Wilson Gary points out the difference between chemical addictions and behavioral addictions.

    Gary makes it clear that pornography does not cause irreversible damage to the brain and that PAWS is not forever in case it occurs in porn addicts.

    If more than two years go by and people still feel badly about it, it's because they have underlying problems that have nothing to do with their past use of porn.
     


  5. You cannot compare chemical addictions with behavioral addictions. Porn is a behavioral addiction. In fact, your brain doesn't really know what porn is. It just responds to a sexual stimulus.

    I recommend a thread on YBOP where Wilson Gary points out the difference between chemical addictions and behavioral addictions.

    Gary makes it clear that pornography does not cause irreversible damage to the brain and that PAWS is not forever in case it occurs in porn addicts.

    If more than two years go by and people still feel badly about it, it's because they have underlying problems that have nothing to do with their past use of porn.
     
  6. wfcasdvwervdsv

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    Thanks for your reply. Yh I realise I've got a lot of work to do.
    Thing is I'm not even bothered by no libido anymore, all I want are my emotions back. I really can't see myself feeling anything from happiness to even sadness ever again after 2 years of them being absent. Do you think I stand a chance of feeling human again if I carry on?
     
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    Hey! :) I didn't mean to imply permanent damage, I just meant that full recovery can be kept at bay indefinitely, even if you relapse only very infrequently, in my experience. But as soon as you start being completely abstinent, your full and final recovery will start! :)

    A word of encouragement: as far as PAWS is concerned, 80 days is a very short period. You shouldn't start worrying until after it's been a year of no relapses and still no good days.
     
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  8. wfcasdvwervdsv

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    Cheers mate :) you've really put my overactive mind at ease!!!
     
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  9. Younameit

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    They did brain scans and the physical changes in the brain are akin to that of a heroine addict, it's not a a mild harmless thing to the brain, gary wilson himself proved that when you watch porn for hours with 40 tabs open this has serious negative affects on your brain, we're not talking about the 90's where you only watched one movie at a time, guys nowadays are causing huge spikes in dopamine due to the coolidge effect, THAT'S what makes porn that harmful to the brain, and when guys do that for years/decades no wonder they suffer severe PAWS
     
  10. Younameit

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    you're right and I'll create a thread touching on this issue
    I've finally found the solution for 2 years + flatlines
    stay tuned
     
  11. Younameit

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    of course you don't feel your emotions, in this physiological state, they are all related, if you had libido you'd be able to feel emotions because emotions come from the sex drive this is a known psychoanalistic concept
     
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  12. Younameit

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    if you were jerking off until the other day then you have work to do, like I said, full year reboot hardmode, this is critical for your brain in this stage
     
  13. wfcasdvwervdsv

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    Any idea of when things will start looking up for me? On day 80 hardcode now
     
  14. Younameit

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    1 year minimum, 80 days? It's nothing
     
  15. Younameit

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    Don't worry bro, I know the solution
     

  16. The solution ?
    That good. Congratulations.
    Tell me about the your solution.
     

  17. Well. Very good.

    Good....good.... Ok.

    I need to know the following and maybe you can help me with the next question:

    If pornography addiction is as harmful as heroin addiction then why do I, every time I leave the PMO for several weeks, even months, not see hallucinations, not feel nauseous, not feel like I'm rolling around on the floor with delusions and tremors?

    As far as I know, when people who use drugs stop using, they begin to feel all these symptoms.

    Why don't we porn addicts feel these symptoms? At least I don't.

    This is why I doubt that the use of pornography is as harmful as the use of drugs. But, I leave this argument open to correction here. Thank you for clarifying this.

    Mmmm. My God ..... Forty open eyelashes ? Who can do that?

    I've never done that in my life. The maximum lashes I open are five twitter lashes, or only three to four on a pornhub site.

    Maybe I'm not that addicted?

    Is it because I'm not a heavy user and that's why I never feel PAWS when I stop?

    Is this thread not for me?

    I thank you. As you can see, despite the time and my age (39 years) I am not a wise man.

    I make it clear again that I started using porn only from the age of 24.

    Maybe I started too late in life and so I don't have symptoms of post acute abstinence (PAWS) ?

    Thank you for responding
     

  18. Yes man. You're good.

    The power of the mind.

    To all here I recommend a book called THE BIOLOGY OF BELIEF.

    We are in part what we believe.

    Maybe PAWS is also a little bit of Hypochondria. And this kind of information can be counterproductive.

    That's why I sometimes disagree with the information on the web.

    Many years ago I thought I had fatal insomnia and that I was going to die just because I read about it on a website, and I just had a simple common insomnia that in time got better and better. Lol.....


    Again: As far as I know, PAWS doesn't last forever. In a question to Gary (one of the most expert information collectors on pornography addiction today) he said that PAWS is very temporary and does not last very long.

    That's why I question to @Freeddom_Taker, whether he really has PAWS, because he says he's been on PAWS for two years. But I think in his case it's an underlying problem.
     

  19. For example this case: @sikreodds97 probably has underlying problems that have little to do with his past PMOs.
     

  20. This is normal. Ordinary people have good days and bad days. All human beings normally get depressed sometimes.

    Why make this a problem ?

    Could it be that we are here to make a problem of very common things ?
     

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