What are the biggest risks of masturbating without porn and artificial sexual stimulation?

I wouldn't consider this as a risk, but rather ill behavior to masturbate for some psychological relief, like masturbating to reduce stress, etc.

 

It can turn into a habitual escape routine for you, like porn did. If it does, then the chances of accepting porn into the routine are high - “eh, I’m already doing this all the time. Fuck it. Let me just watch a video to go with it.”

 

C'mon, man!

Have you ever felt proud of yourself after having a wank?

Have you ever gained anything from wanking?

After wanking, at best I feel a bit flat, at worst I feel a profound sense of existential dread. Why persist with a practice that makes you feel so shit? You emascualte yourself and call it a pleasure.

 

Sounds like you are searching for reasons to continue fapping. I understand. You would rather fap than face the difficulty of not doing it. But think about it. If you have done the NoFap challenge before, then you already know that there is unlimited power to the ones that really don't fap, but harness the power the comes from not releasing your essence away every day or however frequent you do it. You want to remain in a state of complacency and comfort, and that is understandable, but it is weak and sad. People with PIED have a very deep and clear need to do NoFap, as it is the only way to regain sexual health, but the other positive effects of the challenge work for anyone as well. So to choose to continue fapping, without issues is you wanting to have an easy life. A life of just consuming and remaining stable for the sake of not risking hardship. That truly is pathetic, and I will not apologize for my words. We all have a choice. We can either remain comfortable and complacent, or we can choose to do better, be better and to work towards greatness. Now, that doesn't make this challenge easy, not at all. In fact, NoFap was by far the hardest thing I had ever done. There was no task in life that asked so much of me than NoFap. But completing it changes lives. Every single success story I have read said the same thing. NoFap liberated them in a way. It gave them back their personal power.

You have a choice my brother. Remain a husk, or strive to become a man. And be aware of your thoughts. Many people do not want to improve, because it requires them to do hard things that will destabilize you at first. But that will all wane as you become a better person. There really is no excuse for not putting in the effort to improve.

 

Once you do PMO, MO will never be the same. P changes things forever. Perhaps non-addicts can do it without side effects, but I'm sure us addicts cannot.

 

exactly

you're right. Besides, there are even physical negative effects. I'm not addicted to porn. Not missing it. However, compulsive M (even prone M during my teens) has led me to DE, which is just horrible. I know the only way to fix it is just quitting fap for good.

 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...ed-believing-in-porn-addiction-you-should-too

Unless you are ashamed of it there is nothing wrong with it.
There are also a lot of argument and research against it if you care to look, but its not an exact science.

 

True, that's another side of the argument. Not only do PMO addicts struggle with doing MO at a healthy frequency, but people who never became addicted to PMO at all can become addicted to just MO. There are countless stories here of men who wank more than twice a day, everyday, and that's awful for your dick. Whenever I wank twice a day, I feel weak, my hands feel rough, my penis sore, it's the worst. Imagine doing that constantly for years.

 

It is equally harmful to try and treat both things as if they were disconnected. My main point is that P and, like you say, high speed internet, has changed MO forever for us. It can never be the same again. @hopeandfaith brought the equally valid point that some people do experience harmful effects from just masturbation. Do you also think that only high speed internet is to blame for the addiction of those who MO (no P) twice or more a day, everyday?

 

I understand your point, but I don't agree. I have read multiple posts here about people who suffered from MO addiction alone. No P involved. It's fine, though.

 

It's all about understanding physiology my guy. Your mood, your everything is regulated by hormones. Engaging in MO has an effect on your hormones too, and quite some alarming ones. For one, you get a surge in dopamine, the hormone better used to motivate you for goals and purposes that are more rewarding than wanking. This surge in dopamine means you will have fewer left for a certain time which means your motivation drops. Secondly, MO raises prolactin levels. Prolactin is a killer for men as it makes us very sleepy, weak, tired and lifeless. There is not a single guy in the world that reported feeling more energized or fit after a wank, or even sex. Women do not have this issue as they are not building up prolactin after O.

Now here is the gist. If you occasionally wank, there will very likely be no issue at all. I didn't have issues as well before I became addicted, but I was only operating at 80% efficiency due to factors described above. So I will return to my previous comment, that choosing to MO is the way of weak will and wanting a steady, comfortable life that you can wash away. Every single guy that has ever done semen retention or NoFap for a prolonged time will tell you that they never felt so energized, spirited, motivated and guided to make the most of their lives. Those are facts you can not ignore and show that even if you are not addicted, you have a choice for greatness.

I am not trying to burn anyone, I just want the best for all of us. And that means telling the uncomfortable truth

 

Sometimes I masturbate in the shower to females I've seen during the day but I don't do it too much or cum at all. Later in the day I have more sexual thoughts and it gets dangerous at night because you might have a nocturnal emission. Usually after when I masturbate in the shower a relapse comes a week or two later