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Do you think porn can escalate to child porn ?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by CodeTalker, Jan 23, 2020.

Can child porn be induced by porn escalation ?

  1. Yes

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  2. No, you need to be attracted to children first

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  1. TheForsakeen

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    Peace and harmony? NO!!
    Class war!! Death to the criminal bourgeoisie! Death to the industry!
     
  2. vercent99

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    what makes me sad is how people like you have such issues mentally that you want serial murderers to stay alive, you should be locked up with them

    you are sad that a serial killer got executed? then you have mental issues. Killing a monster is not the same as killing innocent people
     
  3. TheForsakeen

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    Law is not the jurisprudence, not a thick book full of paragraphs of philosophical treatises, no driveling fantasies of justice, no hackneyed phrases of morality and ethics. The law is safe highways and roads. You can walk safely through the streets, even after dark. You can go to the lavatory in the restaurant and leave your purse and wife at the table. The law is the quiet sleep of people who are sure that they will be awakened by crowing of the cock, not the red rooster! And for those who break the law – the rope, the hatchet, and the red-hot iron! A punishment that deters others. Those who break the law have to take their punishment. With all available means and methods.
     
  4. vercent99

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    i dont know what u are saying because my main language is not english, u are using too many expressions that i dont know. What do u mean? that we should obey law? yes i obey, and the law in my place says monster criminals such as serial killers, get the death penalty because they deserve it and deserve worse.
     
  5. TheForsakeen

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    yes that is what i am saying, death to "monster", criminal bourgeoisie and the industry.
     
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  6. vercent99

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    good i agree with you
     
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  7. Dizzy Lotus

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    Oh yes, I am very sad about that. I am more sad however about reading a message from a fellow human expressing not only his approval of the act but his condemnation of anyone who disagrees.
    I don't think this relates to mental issues on your side, though. I think it's either a moral issue or a lack of love or peace on your side. I wish you both! [​IMG]
     
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  8. Claims require evidence. My problem with this site is that people just assume their theories about porn are true without bothering to test them for validity.
     
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  9. Divine By Design

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    You seem to have misunderstood. I am not making an assertion in favor or otherwise, but merely stating that there is no obvious conclusion to be drawn. However, while the burden of proof is on the one making a claim, the abscence of evidence does not in and of itself warrant drawing an absolute conclusion of the opposite, and yet you seem to have very strong ideas on the matter, despite not providing any evidence of your own. The point is that it does not make sense to argue that something is definitely false merely on the basis that the opposite has not been proven. The best you can do is not to conclude anything.

    Note that this can of course change in the event that people try to find evidence of a certain hypothesis, but fail. In that case, there is arguably reason to assume that the hypothesis is in fact not true. However, in the absence of any such attempts, no conclusions can be drawn.
     
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  10. I know that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, don't patronize me. Regarding the claim "porn escalates to child porn" I can affirm the inverse, because many people watch porn for many years and never once think of watching child porn. The claim "watching porn in general MAY lead to child porn" is so multi-faceted that I think it's meaningless. And it's certainly not an argument against porn, even if it were true.
     
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  11. Divine By Design

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    I do not think anyone here is arguing that porn consumption will inevitably escalate to watching child porn. Perhaps the question could be rephrased as whether regular porn consumption would make a person predisposed to developing a sexual attraction towards children, to the point that their taste in porn would change to accommodate that. It is not uncommon for porn addicts to develop fetishes including excitement by animals, excitement by violence, porn-induced homosexual fetishes, voyeurism, cuckoldry, and so on, which they never would have developed had they not been consuming porn. These all fit distinct "categories" of porn, yet you argue that the particular "category" of CP is unquestionably one which you can not develop a liking for over time, despite claiming there is no evidence in favor or otherwise. Why can the same argument not be made about homosexual porn (in the context that the watcher is heterosexual), for example?
     
  12. TheForsakeen

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    The fact that porn addicts usually develop a "tolerance" for vanilla porn and search for more and more taboo porn -unless they are technologically illiterate- and the ease with which it is to get some child porn and throw in some pavlovian conditioning and you got yourself some good arguments against porn i'd say for certainly they could not have gotten they hands on the goods stuff otherwise(so easily i mean).
     
  13. I've been watching the same kind of porn for about 10 years now. Hell, even some of the same videos. Just the other day I fapped to one of the earliest vids I remember.
     
  14. Quiet Riot

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    I agree because that is one of the symptoms of porn addiction. You get attached to a certain type of porn, get bored of it, then look for more hard core stuff.
     
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  15. I think that this highlights how different people can be. In your case, you want to stick to the same. In other cases, people escalate.

    That's an important thing to remember: There are coming up to 8 billion people on this planet (that's a lot!), and we can't all be the same. For some people, porn won't escalate. For some it will even de-escalate. For yet others, it will escalate; some of them, dramatically and frighteningly.

    When escalation happens, the direction appears (so far) to be arbitrary, though there might be an undiscovered pattern. Research is needed.
     
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  17. Divine By Design

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    Nobody is arguing that porn consumption will inevitably escalate to more "taboo" categories (or if they are, they're being stupid), but that in many cases it does. Anecdotal evidence to the contrary is irrelevant. It is similar to arguing that smoking does not cause lung cancer, on the basis that you haven't developed it yourself.
     
  18. TheForsakeen

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    Agreed, child marriage is also very widespread but what can you do? for politician the most important thing is to be elected first THEN fixing stuff (or making a show of it:rolleyes:).
     
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  19. TheForsakeen

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    Sorry for your relapse, surely during your ten year odyssey you have developed a fetish in some things you would otherwise not have(unless someone more experienced introduced you to it)?
    for many in this site things such as transwomen porn was disturbing at first -not that i am saying there is anything wrong with it- but as they kept coming back it became more natural (even though they won't tell anyone about it), but as others have stated they might be more factors in play genetics or/and cultural(more research needed).
    But as for "watching porn may escalate to watching child porn" it is most definitely an argument against porn just as "giving guns to the people may lead to mass shooting" is an argument agains the 2nd amendment.
     
  20. Divine By Design

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    I understand where you're coming from, but remarking about semantics does not make things better for anyone. There are plenty of porn categories involving abuse (perhaps most, depending on whom you ask), but porn in and of itself is just defined as sexually explicit visual or literary content, intended for the viewer to derive sexual pleasure from. I fully agree that child porn is unquestionably deplorable, but calling it porn does not imply acceptance. As mentioned, there are plenty of despicable "categories" of porn, but by definition they are all porn nonetheless.
     
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