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Weed and alcohol?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Deleted Account, Feb 20, 2021.

  1. Yes or no while on a reboot?

    I read somewhere that they have a bad impact on the dopamine receptors. is this true?
     
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  2. Dagger323

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    Any sort of “stimulus” like the ones you just mentioned is going to be a terrible idea while rebooting. Even caffeine is best avoided.
     
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  3. palindromo

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    No , especially alcohol
    essentially due to the fact that they uninhibit you, they drop down your mental defenses
    so you may come to want some porn after weed
     
  4. Bob12345

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    Nah man don’t do that. In life, in general, you wouldn’t want to do something that will control you and not allow you to control your actions and your behaviors. Such substances, similar to porn, are used to let off any steam or tension. It’s a weakness. You want to deal with the pressure. Rise to the occasion, dont crumble. Don’t runaway from the pressure, because the pressure is going to add up and catch up with you. Real men turn suffering into greatness. Don’t try and escape your suffering.
     
  5. best wishes moderate if you cannot quit lots of resources and support if you need a hand

    now hold up.

    would you tell a compulsive porn user interested in rebooting to moderate if they cannot quit?

    now hear me out for a moment. if brain science says porn is like cocaine, meth, and heroin on the brain it goes against evidence to suggest moderation speaking from years of experience in substance recovery
     
  6. the plain truth
     
  7. Of course anything risky in nature like meth or dope will be less harmful used less frequently.

    perhaps I got offtopic a bit but all done!
     
  8. I_quit1981

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    I personally think it depends on the person. And how they can handle theses thing in general. If you think you can handle it by on means give it a try. If you fail then you no something else to add to the list of thing you can’t do
     
  9. Buzz Aldrin

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    Neither.

    I've been saying this a lot to myself (trying to remove all "addictive" things in my life)
    Say replacing masturbation with video games, Yes i'm removing one thing that's an addiction but i'm replacing it with another.
    Both addictions have different side affects.

    However in your case when it comes to alcohol & weed, Both are going to have an effect on your body & pocket.
    If you really insist on picking up a substance to counter PMOing (a pick me up) I would just go for vaping. At least it's common.
     
  10. I_quit1981

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    I don’t think he want to replace drinking with M. I think he just want to know if it’s a good idea to drink while trying to quite and I think it’s really up to him to make that decision
     
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  11. Buzz Aldrin

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    Yeah, I mean as long as you control it (and it's legal) probably weed. But I will say that doing that stuff might adjust your dopamine system to where it enjoys whatever you pickup instead of P/M/O.
     
  12. I_quit1981

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    That’s what this is all about control I can just give my opinion on thing and how I do thing. You are your own man to figure the rest out cheers
     
  13. wel stop adictive stuf f like alcohold and weed is as it seems a must. Inluding stopping caffeine. So no pmo and no drugs., alcohol and caffeine are they way to go.

    Thanks for the reactions gentleman.
     
  14. Trial and error is best imho, as this is all highly subjective. It also depends a lot on how much you drink / smoke.
    If it doesn't develop into an excessively compulsive addiction to a substance that compensates for the newly introduced lack of pmo, it should be fine.

    In other words, if you drink one cup of coffee in the morning and one or two glasses of beer every other night, I don't see how that will turn into a problem. On the contrary, your trying to suddenly cut out any and all pleasure from your life all at once is probably more doomed to fail miserably than quitting one thing at a time.
    It's tough enough to abstain from pmo (both mentally and physically because of the lack of dopamine),
    so there's absolutely nothing wrong with treating yourself every now and then through food, drink, sugar, video games, etc. Especially while you're trying to gain some momentum in the opposite direction of pmo. Celebrate your weekly success with a cheat day for instance, like a bodybuilder. Then, if you've abstained long enough and your body adjusts, tackle the next addictive substance / compulsory behavior you want to cut out of your life.

    The human brain is basically like a dog. If there's absolutely no treat involved, it will sabotage the fuck out of every attempt to discipline and condition it and be utterly unwilling to learn a new trick. It really doesn't approve of hardcore asceticism. Especially not if you suddenly go there over night by quitting sugar, alcohol, weed, video games, porn, pmo, mo, etc. basically cold turkey.

    "If you chase two rabbits, both will escape." - Chinese Proverb
     
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  15. I believe a clean reboot without any other drugs or substances is optimal. You could fall into a greater binge when not thinking clearly.

    I quit drinking recently myself because I have donepmo while drunk. It makes for a worse hangover.
     
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  16. Just my two cents on this. I'm closing in on completing the 90-day challenge and I know that abstaining from alcohol has really helped me. What I realized is drinking leads to me making poor decisions. One too many drinks and I get a "Who cares?" kind of attitude which is not conducive to staying on track with a goal I've set for myself. It's also a good way to, as I read somewhere, "experiment with sobriety". I have to admit it's been nice to avoid the headaches, stomach upset, and sleep problems I started getting with booze in recent years. My advice is to try a sober reboot, just to see what you might learn about yourself.
     
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  17. No offense but you sound like you already had a really significant problem with alcohol to begin with. It seems like you were basically binge-drinking to the point where you consistently got severe hangovers, since you mentioned headaches, stomach upset, and sleep problems as the norm with your level of booze-intake. That's bad in and of itself and already a clear sign that you drink way too much per session. So kudos to you for breaking that habit!

    Whenever I drink, I try to stay within the recommended low-risk limits of alcohol consumption, which is somewhere between 24 - 30g of alcohol. Generally speaking, that's 2 drinks max per occasion. I know, I know, that sounds ridiculous to most drinkers, but I've really gotten used to it and don't even crave more after that now. This way, you don't risk your health overly irresponsibly, don't get any hangover symptoms whatsoever, and don't get to the devil may care kind of attitude either - or any other overly enthusiastic intoxicated state for that matter. Moderation is key. You should never drink till you're drunk.
     
  18. A8X

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    Personally i am not a big fan of the "black and white" mindset where something is either good or bad. There is a pretty big difference between seldom having a glass of wine after dinner and getting yourself drunk quite often. Most agree that taking amphetamine is bad, but if you have ADD/ADHD and take it in low doses as prescribed then it is helpful. As a general rule it is best avoiding intoxication because it clouds your judgement and lowers your guard.

    Btw, alcohol & cannabis has little effect on dopamine receptors because they don't chemically alter dopamine production.
     
  19. Well no that's not quite right. I never drank to such excess, except maybe way back when I was in school. In fact I haven't had an actual hangover in like 15 years. I just realized as I got older that my body (and brain) couldn't tolerate it so well anymore - I'm talking like 3-4 drinks.

    I also realized it led to me making poor decisions sometimes, which was the main point I was trying to make. That's why it made trying any challenge here more difficult for me. Everyone has to decide what works for them, but I'd just tell people be careful, you don't have to have a full-blown drinking problem for it to be a negative influence on your life.
     
  20. josephineestrela

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    This commentary is not advocating marijuana, but emphasizing the ridiculous legality and danger of alcohol compared to illegal, legally prosecuted marijuana. In any case, if you have a problem with marijuana or alcohol, you should see a psychotherapist, and if you can't, there is a website. https://www.theluckiestclub.com/join-community Both alcohol and marijuana are psychotropic drugs that harm the body and lead out of the state of natural sobriety. Still, their harm to the body and the consequences of their use are incommensurably different. So why is cannabis, which is harmless compared to alcohol, forbidden by law, while alcohol, which destroys the lives of millions of people, is allowed and freely available to the population, including children...?
     
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