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Aggressive and angry thoughts

Discussion in 'Loneliness' started by Deleted Account, Feb 14, 2021.

  1. I find that I have to deal with these sort of thoughts far more often than I would like. The thoughts in verbal form follow along the theme of hating myself, my friends, my family and other people in general. I also have thoughts of killing myself and the aforementioned groups of people.

    This sounds awful when I actually write it down so let me be completely clear: I have no plans to hurt myself or anyone else. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

    The problem I am having is with anger, frustration, and regret. I will remember something from my past out of nowhere and just immediately think something along the lines of "I hate myself and should probably just go kill everyone". Again, no plans, just default thoughts that are very frustrating and unproductive. To the extent that I have suffered legitimate suicidal ideation in the past is the extent to which I have sought professional help. I have never indulged in any series ideation of killing another person. My hatreds and frustrations are directed much more inwardly than outwardly, not that that makes it any better. Hatred and frustration are hatred and frustration non matter which they are pointing.

    I went through an extremely angry, aggressive, and self destructive phase as a teenager than involved no small amount of public humiliation in front of my peers, property destruction, and hospitalization for mental health reasons. Don't start smoking pot at 12 years old, and if you do don't lie about it your friends, your family, and yourself. And don't blame your mom for your own choices. I blamed my mom for everything both to her face and to anyone else that would listen, but it was not her fault. I made my own choices.

    The thoughts I am dealing with now seem to be echoes of those years of my life, echoes of those choices. It is as tough there is a voice inside me that is just itching to scream "I hate you" as loud and aggressively as it can and when it can't scream it says all sorts of other things that I don't want to hear. It really is like living with a devil, or being forced to share a home with an extremely angry person.

    I am writing it down here because I want to feel less alone and I am hoping doing so will take the edge of the internal screaming and helping redirect the thoughts that reoccur in my mind. I try to focus on more positive thoughts and otherwise redirect my thinking when these hateful and angry thoughts rear their ugly heads. And I think that might be easier if I just sort of get honest about it anonymously.

    One of my deepest frustrations is with people pitying my. My parents did it, my sister does it, and I have seen myself do it and I hate it. What I mean is, there is a habit some people of relating to people in this way: you are the one who is struggling, I am the one who is helping. It's a power dynamic and I hate it. A much better default position is this: we are all suffering, here's what I do. That's an attitude that is actually helpful.

    That's enough for this post. I think I just needed to get those things of my chest. To summarize, I deal with harmful, angry, and aggressive thoughts and I don't want to feel like I am alone in those thoughts. I sort of want to know if other people deal with the same thing. I have no plans to hurt myself or anyone else. If that's what was going on I would push the panic button, set up an appointment with a doctor, or call a close friend. Probably all three.

    Okay, I am finished, thank you for reading.
     
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  2. AtomicTango

    AtomicTango Fapstronaut

    I experience similar thoughts and feelings, both in regards to feeling aggressive/angry towards others and towards myself. I sometimes find myself idly wanting to step in front of a car when out walking and it doesnt take much for me to become irrationally angry with myself or others to the extent I catch myself wanting to get violent. Like you, I have no actual desire to act on any of these impulses, and I dont like feeling like I'm some sort of ape who cant control his baser desires. What I also experience is that when you attempt to talk to people about this, they either dont take you seriously enough and/or they think you are just trying to be edgy for effect, so you internalise that and just stop being honest with the people around you, which has the effect of making these feelings worse.

    Honestly, I dont really have a concrete solution or an answer, but I still wanted to comment anyway. You definitely are not alone with this.
     
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  3. Thank you, I think this is all I want. The fact of the matter is that I have all sort of ridiculous, distracting, and unproductive thoughts. Talking about them, or admitting that I have them makes it a little easier to redirect them I think. Honestly, I am more worried about people trying to get me help than I am people thinking I am trying to be edgy.
     
  4. WHMvsPMO

    WHMvsPMO Fapstronaut

    I don't have any answers either but in general I feel this may be a phase of rebooting when we have unresolved issues. One thing that helps me is journaling with the non-dominant hand. I'm doing this right now before I type out the post so I can be more in touch. There are times when it puts me in the present so much that I don't know what the next word will be. It takes on a slightly therapeutic quality and is even a little poetic. Whether it's in the framework of inner child work or tapping into the other hemisphere of the brain it does access a part of myself that is wiser and not online the rest of the time.
     
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  5. AtomicTango

    AtomicTango Fapstronaut

    To be fair, I think many people experience thoughts/feelings like this at some point or another. I think what matters is how you handle them, the things you are already doing are positive steps. What I try to do is catch myself when I have these impulses, and as opposed to fight them, simply accept that I have them, let myself have them, and they tend to just go away after that. I find that lingering on things like this can put you in a bad mood needlessly.
     
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  6. avichetri

    avichetri New Fapstronaut

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    I have definitely been through a similar cyclical mindset in my teens. I was angry mostly with my older brother, at 13, he would tease me for watching porn, saying "urgh" or "eww". At one time, he mocked me by saying, "care to see more emo girls", another time he pointed at me with a finger-gun and blew my head after he saw me watching porn. Most of my identity from then to around 21 was hating him, which was exacerbated by his depressive violent 20s, he would refuse to clean after himself, he would curse our mother with every imaginable insult, he would destroy things and send us horrible messages via text or paper. I think around 22, I started to attempt to smile more, laugh louder, be happier to spite him. I cleaned my bedroom, did the dishes, read books and exercised. Although this was still in the reference of him. It was not until he moved out that I started to realise that my loneliness and sadness, although partially from those said domestic conflicts, had still remained and I was still angry.

    What I have learnt now is that context of anger is important. If you cannot see that the anger is becoming your identity, you will always carry it, even when the source resolves itself. I have yet to find the cure to my negativity, but I think I know that my anger is a simulacrum now.
     
  7. SickSicko

    SickSicko Fapstronaut

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    I might be completely wrong, but at least in my case anger and aggressiveness usually steems from resentment towards myself for what I am or I've allowed myself to be, and you seem to be in a similar position, I would even argue that more often than not that's the reason behing anger, and that may or may not include how I've had allowed other people to treat me depending of who are we talking about.

    And the most self-relieving solution for that is to correct those things one by one and get closer to the healthy self-image that you also have of yourself and that it's eclipsed by the bad self-imagine of yourself heavily influenced by your past, but we live in today, not in yesterday.

    You are not alone mate, just get out of that hole step by step, the demon will haunt you, even when you have improved greatly and you are like a complete different person (mine still does at least), but that means there is still work to be done, as you progress you may find yourself cohabitating with two, the angry and the positive one, listen to the latter...

    All the best.
     
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  8. I actually find myself dealing with thoughts like this really often. Agression, self-loathing, suicidal, murderous thoughts. I don't have real plans of doing anything, but I really have dealt with the suicidal ideation a lot in my adolescence.

    It sucks sometimes, but one thing I've learned is that this is the emotional side of our brain trying to make itself heard. Don't shun these thoughts, but rather listen to them. Where do they stem from? Try to understand them. Allow these thoughts to flow through your mind freely but still know that they don't define you or your life experience. The worst thing you could do is try to repress them and tell yourself that you're bad for thinking like this. You're not bad for having these thoughts. Agression is a totally healthy emotion and is partly what gives you a masculine drive. It is only bad when you begin to act out these thoughts and put others in harm but as you have stated, you have zero intention of going through with this.

    So what I'm saying is that, let these thoughts play out for a little. See them, really think through it. It's basically just your brain letting out a bunch of previously repressed emotions. Afterwards, try to understand them and redirect these thought. Think things like "I'm never actually going to do these things, I'm just thinking it", and such. Hope this helps.
     
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  9. It’s good to know I am not alone. I am working on my inner monologue. In terms of the committee of the mind I am empowering the proper committee members while sanctioning the bad actors. It’s a battle and I am not always sure who’s on whose side, but I am fighting.
     
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  10. I sort of want to keep this thread alive. I did about ten minutes of meditation this morning and while it sounds crazy I can sort of feel where all these thoughts are coming from. It's like there is a wound in my mind and when I am not paying close attention to what I am saying and doing the wound gets dirty and starts to show signs of infection and then I start thinking angry and hateful things. Pornography and other bad habits are like an effort to put a balm on that wound and while that balm might feel soothing, it doesn't do anything to clean the wound and help it heal.
     
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  11. AtomicTango

    AtomicTango Fapstronaut

    This is a very good way of putting it. More often than not PMO is just the most obvious byproduct of some other deeper issue. To try and tackle PMO by itself without tackling said issue is like trying to put out a forest fire by repeatedly extinguishing a single tree. What you need to do now is take the time to seriously introspect and figure out where the mental wound is coming from.
     
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  12. Upwards2020

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    I dont know ypur cicrcumstances but I think it's to do with feeling left out or under appreciated maybe not intentionally ... there is a wall against you and what you want need and that has an impact on people's mental health people become isolated closed off and miserable
     

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