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Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS) - The big NoFap missing link ?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Duriance1, Mar 29, 2021.

  1. Duriance1

    Duriance1 New Fapstronaut

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    For years I and many others have been infuriated by what seemed to be a disconnect between our reality and popular science. We would be told that masturbatory is healthy yet everytime we ejaculated we felt dizzy, unable to concentrate, tired and lazy, timid, with burning scalps skin and eyes and a struggle to string together sentences, things like this and worse for weeks on end. For us it was the complete opposite of healthy and destroyed our lives studies work and relationships. It'sso frustrating, "Why do these people fap all the time and never feel sick.? Why do they feel fine when I can't read a book without my eyes burning and head reeling? Why didn't the doctors believe me? Trapped suffering with no answers, many men took to nofap and abstinence based lifestyles in furious rejection of a science that explained none of their problems.. until now.

    There seems to be some emergent evidence of a condition that only affects certain members of the population which ticks every single ducking box we have complained about for years, and it is known as POIS - post orgasmic illness syndrome

    Here's a tl;dr

    YOUR OWN SEMEN IS LITERALLY POISONING YOU.


    "Post-orgasmic illness syndrome (POIS) is a rare condition in which people have flu-like symptoms after orgasm, either with a partner or through masturbation. The symptoms can start minutes or hours after orgasm and can last for several days afterward. Usually, the symptoms go away after 3 to 7 days but immediately return after ejaculating

    According to a 2016 study, symptoms include

    1. Cluster 1 (general cluster): extreme fatigue, exhausted, palpitations, problems finding words, incoherent speech, dysarthria, concentration difficulties, quickly irritated, can not stand noice, photophobia, depressed mood;

    2. Cluster 2 (flu-like cluster): feverish, extreme warmth, perspiration, shivery, ill with flu, feeling sick, feeling cold;

    3. Cluster 3 (head cluster): headache, foggy feeling in the head, heavy feeling in the head;

    4. Cluster 4 (eyes cluster): burning, red injected eyes, blurred vision, watery, irritating, itching eyes, painful eyes;

    5. Cluster 5 (nose cluster): congestion nose, watery, runny nose, sneezing;

    6. Cluster 6 (throat cluster): dirty taste in mouth, dry mouth, sore throat, tickling cough, hoarse voice;

    7. Cluster 7 (muscle cluster): muscle tenstion in back or neck, muscle weakness, pain muscles, heavy legs, stiffness muscles
    I will include my own symptoms which includes a feeling of burning in my cheekbones and forehead and temples and general tightness of the skin accompanied by extreme heat. As well as a feeling of nausea, cognitive retardation and timidity and an extreme feeling of laziness

    It comes on immediately or a few minutes after ejaculating and can last for 3 to 7 days (Sound familiar!?) and according to the study the exact causes are unknown but it is speculated that it may be an Autoimmune response to something in our seminal fluid


    >Both men of the first publication of POIS reported a rapid onset of flu-like symptoms, such as feverishness, extreme fatigue, and burning eyes after ejaculation followed by more cognitive disturbances such as concentration difficulties and particularly an irritated mood. These symptoms disappeared after 3 to 7 days. However, all these complaints returned in the same severity after they ejaculated again. As a result, they refrained from sexual activity in order to avoid to becoming ill again. Notably, both men were otherwise physically completely healthy. As the symptoms of POIS occurred rather immediately after ejaculation Waldinger and Schweitzer
    ) postulated that POIS was caused by an immunological process, as only the immune system is capable of inducing very rapid and serious physical and mental symptoms. However, and importantly, the postulated immunological origin of their complaints gave rise to a systemic reaction of the body and not a local genital reaction. Support for an immunological cause of these flulike complaints was found in reports on cytokines inducing a flulike state. But at the time, the role of cytokines in mediating POIS was unknown

    These symptoms mirror warnings early Swiss and German doctors gave about masturbation side effects, many of which were all too hastily dismissed by modern doctors as Christian propaganda. There is growing evidence POIS is a potentially hereditary autoimmune disease negatively affecting millions of men and many in the NoFap community.

    This is huge and WE NEED TO INCREASE PUBLIC AWARENESS OF THIS CONDITION. More public awareness of POIS = more studies and funding and academic attention = faster development of treatments and potentially even cures. We aren't crazy, many of us likely suffer from POIS and don't even realise it. SPREAD THE WORD!
     
  2. Duriance1

    Duriance1 New Fapstronaut

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    The absolute worst thing about this condition is that despite the side effects of ejaculation it does not dull our sexual impulses. In other words we will feel like we have the urge for sex or masturbation even when we KNOW it will fuck us up afterwards. As the authors of the 2016 study on POIS lamented:

    ""These data illustrate the mental burden POIS induces to the affected male and to his relationship. A substantial number of the young men with primary POIS are reluctant to look for a female partner as they can’t imagine that a woman will accept a man who prefers to abstain from sex. These men need to cope with their own catastrophic idea that they will stay alone for the rest of their life. But not only that. These men also have to cope with reducing ejaculation frequency as much as possible even when the urge to have sex and intimacy is normal or even strong. They have to reduce it, as the consequence of an ejaculation will be a disturbance of their concentration and alertness on their work or during their studies for about a week.""

    It seriously makes people feel awful and sick

    ""An intriguing phenomenon of POIS is that during a POIS “attack”, a latent illness and/or a previous scar of a trauma or surgery will become painful or sensitive again. As soon as POIS has disappeared the illness or scar sensitivity disappears as well""


    This is it. This is the missing link in the nofap debate. WeNEED to get the word out om POIS
     
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  5. Duriance1

    Duriance1 New Fapstronaut

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    I can't post links yet as my account is too new but you can still google them. Literally some of us may have a condition where ejaculation makes our immune system attack our own bodies
     
  6. OhWhenThe

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    Don't want to say I have this but I can relate to a lot of the symptoms.

    The thing is this has only been the case for about the past year, before that I wasn't experiencing these symptoms. I would have thought that with something like this you'd have it from the offset rather than developing it at some point. I'd prefer to think that I've just burnt myself out and that lengthy abstinence will see a reversal of the effects from orgasming.
     
  7. locomia

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    this is what happens to me 100% true i can relate a lot
     
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  8. I have noticed my general fatigue and irritability symptoms disappear 3 days or so after my last ejaculation. So this science is proven for my experiences. I have so many of the above symptoms that its scary. I want to be healthy physically and mentally.
     
  9. Ricardo26

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    Im commiit suicide thanks to you im stay single sex is bad with a woman
     
  10. Overforme

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    I will shoot this theology of being "ill" after having orgasm relates to any sort of syndrome. When I was much younger, I did not get what would be a lot of those symptoms listed until I reached 2 decades later. Why? Well what does relate to these symptoms would actually be from diminished levels of hormones and having arousal addiction disorder from constant waves of huge hard hitting dopamine spikes. Want to feel better? Get the heck away from Porn, masturbation and Orgasm for at least 90 days. Personally I'm heading for 1 year as a goal now.
     
  11. Ricardo26

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    I have autism i have anxiety i have fear to death im scared of those symptoms
     
  12. Ricardo26

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    whats dysarthria is it a brain stroke am i gonna die
     
  13. Ricardo26

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    should i stay single cuz sex is bad
     
  14. learning

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    I have symptoms closely matching cluster 1, but they only last for 24 hours and they only happen if I ejaculate. It is possible to separate orgasm from ejaculation so that men can have multiple orgasms. Sometimes I can manage that, and I have found that the orgasms are not the problem - it is the ejaculation.

    Also, the problem has become worse over the years. Originally I could ejaculate 2 or 3 times per week without feeling too bad the following day. Now I can't ejaculate at all without losing the next day to those symptoms you listed: "Cluster 1 (general cluster): extreme fatigue, exhausted, palpitations, problems finding words, incoherent speech, dysarthria, concentration difficulties, quickly irritated, can not stand noise, photophobia, depressed mood". I have everything except palpitations and dysarthia.

    I was certainly not aware that this had an official name "post orgasmic illness syndrome". I never heard of it. I'm glad to have that information.
     
    Last edited: May 16, 2021
  15. Ricardo26

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    Is dysarthria like brain Stroke
     
  16. Ricardo26

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    So It’s better to be single cuz sex is bad
     
  17. learning

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    it's difficulty speaking - not difficulty finding words (which I do experience) - but difficulty speaking the words. The same thing can happen after a stroke, but I suspect the mechanisms causing it might be quite different. Not a doctor, so just speculating.
     
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  18. Ricardo26

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    I’m depressed for reading all this I prefer to die
     
  19. Thanks for sharing this

    I def have POIS
     

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