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[DESPERATE] Do I have PIED or ED (venous leak,...)? Can nofap help me?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by ptcruiser, Apr 5, 2021.

  1. ptcruiser

    ptcruiser Fapstronaut

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    I used to be a quite fit, successful 27 yo male. But my life has completely changed over the last four months because of ED. Every waking minute I am thinking about ED!

    I need some advice on what could be my problem and how I could solve it. I want to be frank: I fear that I have underlying organic issues, which drives me crazy -- because if it is organic, then nofap probably doesn't help, right?

    Here is what happened:
    1. Love of my life broke up with me in Fall 2019. It left me depressed. Also, due to a new job with long hours I developed a burnout.
    2. When she left me, I started PMO, i.e. excessive edging. Mornings for about 1 hour, then at night for another hour. To porn clips and hot instagram models. On weekends like 3-4 hours each day. Just edged while watching TV or when I couldn't get out of bed.
    3. Often I was not horny. I PMO'd just out of boredom and because I was depressed. I had - and still have - low libido, I also gained some weight. I remember that sometimes I PMO'd while only semi-erect.
    4. After a year or so, I met a woman. When we first got intimate, I only got semi-hard. After heavy stimulation I briefly got hard (80-90%), but could *not maintain* my erection. I tried, but couldn't penetrate. WTF.
    5. Not being able to maintain an erection hasn't really happened to me before. Immediately stopped porn. The next time we met, it was a little bit better: I got like 90% hard when we made out naked. But again I could not maintain my erection. The moment manual stimulation stops, I get flaccid after about 10 secs.
    6. Went to an urologist, said everything's fine, it's in my head (except for one thing, see below). Gave me ED pills. Next time I met that woman, I took the pills and I was able to maintain my erection easily (like before I had ED) and we had some decent sex - 3 times a night.
    I stopped porn last December, but continued to edge (but only for about 1 hour a day).

    I have developed several ideas of what could be going on. I do have a number of questions and will be grateful for some help:
    • I still can't maintain my erection if I stop stimulating - even when masturbating. It will deflate in seconds once I stop touching it. I can still only maintain it with ED pills. --> I read about venous leak, which is consistent with my symptoms. Is PIED also consistent with getting hard, but losing it quickly? I didn't get a doppler with an injection to rule out VL. It worries me.
    • Why are the ED pills exactly working for maintaining erections? --> I recently read that those ED pills not only relax the smooth muscles in the penis, but could also relax the pelvic floor. Could pelvic floor relaxation also be an issue?
      • I realized that when fapping or having sex in the past, I would always flex my pelvic muscles (as if lifting a towel on my dick). Is that normal? Could I have overworked my pelvic muscles due to excessive fapping?
    • My dick always had a slight bend to the left. I now noticed that this bend has sometimes become more pronounced. The urologist spotted a very small, 2 milimetre plaque on the left side when using the ultrasound. He said I shouldn't care too much. I noticed though that when I'm fully erect (e.g., through pills) the bend is it has always been, i.e. NOT more pronounced. --> A few times when I tried having sex with the above lady I wasn't fully erect. Do you think that I might have hurt my penis, now creating the more pronounced bend (at times)?
    • Morning wood: I have stopped all fapping 3 weeks ago. I now get nocturnal erections more often, i.e. about every other night. I wake up at 3 or 4am and notice a 80% erection. Once or twice a week I also get an erection in the morning. But as opposed to my teens, once I stand up and walk to the bathroom the erection fades fairly quickly. --> Can morning wood return during nofap? It should have nothing to do with PMO, right (since PMO is mental)?

    I am quite desperate and grateful for any comments. Thank you!
     
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  2. swordmaster

    swordmaster Fapstronaut

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    Stay away from porn, masturbation and erotic content stimuli for 120 days and check out your experience. If it doesn't work you may need to see a doctor.
     
  3. ptcruiser

    ptcruiser Fapstronaut

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    So there have been people overcoming the issue of not maintaining erection by nofap?
     
  4. Hey, I logged in today even though I rarely do anymore having pretty much conquered my impulses, and I saw this post. It reminds me of me a few years ago. I was having erection problems, went to Dr. Google and found the same things, venous leak, Peyronies disease, blah blah blah. I was thoroughly convinced I had fucked up my penis by way of a variety of unhealthy sexual practices including fapping myself silly way too often. A doctor I saw told me it was psychological, and I thought he was an asshole just dismissing me, so I went back to Dr. Google and took all sorts of other measures to take it into my own hands. Scared the shit out of myself, frankly. I know how you feel brother.

    I am here to tell you that you are going to be fine. If you came this far, you know that porn hasn't been helpful to you. But still, your mind and body are not working together successfully (nor with your spirit if you're into that sort of thing). There is much more soul searching for you to do. Stop worrying about the physical and try figuring out the mental, maybe. Or if you know you're not doing the right things physically, work on that. Things will start to come up, you'll go through tons of other experiences, many of them very difficult. But your own mind and body will give you better answers than anyone here can if you just ask it and listen. For example, I found at one point that my erections were better if I focused on my feet. That's not the case anymore but it was at some point in the journey. I also relived a number of negative memories that I discovered were related to the predicament, which when I was where you are as you're posting this, I would have never had the slightest chance of realizing.

    What can you do to be more of who you want to be now? Who is that anyway? Think deeply about that, feel how it feels, and you'll know what to do. When you do get a raging boner again, the post you made today won't make any sense to you, you'll think of it like a paper you wrote in 6th grade or something, and you'll have all the inner peace of knowing nothing can hold you back.

    Bon voyage.
     
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  5. ptcruiser

    ptcruiser Fapstronaut

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    Thanks, Phallosopher! So did you fully overcome your ED?
     
  6. futuredentist

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    Check out my post from 2019: "CHECK IT IF YOU FEAR THE VENOUS LEAK"
     
  7. futuredentist

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    My advice would be - don't go for 90 days. Go for as much as you need to feel confident.
    Go until your body naturally releases the semen. Quit all the social media, porn, shit and give your body some sexual rest.
    I remember being at my first day 60 when I decided to set up a date with an average looking girl, but god I wanted her, I wanted to fuck the shit out of her - so at day 60 as I was peeing (standing up :D) I got hard and maintained it until I wanted.
     
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  8. futuredentist

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    It may sound cliche, but its in your head, in your brain.
    I wasted 2 years in fear of that "leak" only because I lacked the willpower to quit masturbation, to quit procrastinating, to quit social media, to start talking to girls, to fuck.
    Believe me masturbation is not better than porn - they are both useless and stupid.
    Do not "test your dick with porn" - I fell for that trap many times. I had hundreds of "day 1" and failed.
    Go for the girls, dont wait for the "day 90" - its not magical cure day.
    I know its hard due to the COVID but find ways to go on dates, cuddle, kiss, sex is not the ultimate goal. Just make your brain used to the normal state of being with girl and give it time. Your dick will do the job then!
     
  9. vercent99

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    its from porn, the porn has bigger expectations than real life so you don't get aroused as much from real sex than porn, even if you want to, this lower arousal means you will lose erections quicker. Also anxiety causes you to lose erections, if you think about you will lose your erection everytime you have sex, ofcourse it will happen due to stress.

    so:
    - stop watching porn, some people see results in 2 months, some in 3+ months, each body is different
    - try not to be anxious, dont stress much, focus on pleasure not about your erection
    - maybe try more foreplay to get more stimulated & aroused so you can maintain erection
     
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  10. ptcruiser

    ptcruiser Fapstronaut

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    Thanks guys.

    Arousal is definitely a thing. I am perhaps 50% horny as compared to when erections were fine, could maintain them forever (about 15 months ago).

    But given that ED pills work (can maintain 90% erection). Do you think these pills make up for under-arousal, i.e. give me a harder dick at the same level of low arousal I am facing right now?

    Also, keeping erection works easily with ED pills. If my problem is due to the pelvic floor, do ED pills kinda relax pelvic muscles, too, restricting blood flow out of my dick?
     

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