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This doesn't help me

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Hold the Line, Apr 12, 2021.

  1. Hold the Line

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    i've gotten reasonably long streaks and never felt better, i totally changed my bad habits and now i eat less junk, i work out more , i meditate, and still feel like shit, and don't tell me its flat line because even in 50 day streak i felt like shit the entire time, im doing this for half a year now and i see people reporting positive changes from the first week, i dont notice any positive changes and only worse
    my anger issues are worse, my depression is worse, my motivation is weaker and lower
    my willpower was terrible and remained so.
    i take daily walks in the sun for around 40-30 minutes and i hate it totally its fucking boring and im fucking sick of being mentally ill nothing helps.
    at the beginning when i started NoFap i really thought this could help me because so many of the side effects of porn i could relate with depression anger anxiety terrible willpower and tolerance, my life is currently trash and my family sure doesn't do any favors with helping me feel better
    dudes in these forums found a girlfriend after 20 days of NF or opened a new business or whatever, i feel fucking terrible im doing nothing with my life and i have no motivation do even go to work all my fucking childhood was a shitshow and i have no good memories from my childhood or teen years
    im 22 and i never had a good period of time in my life
    ive been a sad kid who played WoW all day long and fucking had no friends
    i never been in a relationship because im a fuckin mess
    no matter how hard i try i never get any progress mentally
    half a year is a long enough time to at least starting to see results and i dont feel one bit better. im still angry at everything and never pleased, i cant stand shitty mundane jobs that suck away your will to live and my focus is so bad i cant study anything
     
  2. Hold the Line

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    at the beggining i had hope this no pmo shit could help me but i am losing hope with it just like everything in my life nothing ever ever works out for me and this piece of filth god enjoys every minute of it
     
  3. Lencho

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    Sounds like PMO is NOT not your only issue. You say never in your whole life, never in your childhood have had anything good from. No friends, etc. You sound bitter.. Well there you go. How do you fix that? Well besides no PMO, start being kind to yourself. Stop being mean to yourself. Maybe you were less bitter and more hopeful at the beginning but you need to heal your wounds. Maybe you think you didn't have friends or maybe things didn't workout for you because you weren't cool or good enough or maybe because no one appreciated you. Well start with genuinely appreciating yourself and know that your enough regardless of anything and then find yourself some good friends that do appreciate you. I've been looking for "good" friends for more than two years and it is sad that when I think I find one they let me down. But oh well, I know I'm not less than because of them. But if you start working on yourself alone (hidden wounds) things will slowly start changing for the better.

    And God does play a role in this but I'd recommend we read the Bible to get to know him before we start judging him.
     
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  4. Randy Andy

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    Wow you feel really angry, that's understandable. you had a long list of things you wanted to be different and a belief that giving up pmss would get you all that stuff. "other guys gave up p+ and got a girlfriend, I didn't so that's one of many ways this is all shit.". What if the people who told you this site can get you a girlfriend were full of shit, not the same as giving up pm+ is shit...!
    It's normal for an addict to feel more anger and despair and many other things in long term sobriety. I've certainly felt those and also positive feelings, I think the latter is due to a combination of sobriety and recovery as in not just "I don't do that anymore" but having practices for when anger and despair come up, like a gym for the mind kind of.
     
  5. Hold the Line

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    I am really, really tired of being attacked by my own mind, i keep having negative thoughts, there are so much things i want to accomplish but i actually have no motivation or willpower for nearly anything like having a job i dont like i studying a course or a degree
    my life is currently stuck and it's very absorving of most of my mental energy, it's been like this for a very, very long time, a decade as a matter of fact, and i'm just 22
    most of my life objectively was pain and negative experiances, i really really don't have any good memories of childhood or teen years and it's very sad
    i just want to be ridden of this mental illness
     
  6. Hold the Line

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    Sometimes i'm in so much distress i want to cry, but i can't bring myself to that i feel like i'm choking from my tears but can't cry i'm just so numb
     
  7. IGY

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    I empathise with how you feel. It sounds like you need to make an appointment with your doctor. He can refer you to a psychiatrist. He will take down your history of these emotions and thoughts you are having. From that he can assess what mental illness you have. It is important to find this out, because different mental illness require different approaches.
     
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  8. Hold the Line

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    haha
    i've been under therapy for over 10 years including pills, they mostly helped me with anxiety but the shit feelings are still there and the anxiety is still not 100% cured
    i stopped taking the pills a long time ago, they made me tired and even more numb and out of focus, my grades were pure shit
     
  9. eagle rising

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    You seemed to have focused on a few posts about people's positive changes in a short span of time. That isn't you, and it's damn unfortunate, for sure. You have to accept that you didn't see positive changes in a week's time. You have to accept that it may take longer. I had been depressed for about two years. I could not enjoy anything for that time. There are plenty of other people on here with similar stories. How long it takes to see positive changes is highly varied among P addicts. I know of many who still struggle and it's been at least a year. I've seen many on the struggle for a duration. Unfortunately, it might take a little bit more time for you.

    You have to change your mindset willfully, there is no other way. You have train yourself like an animal. Every time those "negative" feelings come about you have to change it. This is an all day thing. Not just for a couple of hours. You have to wear yourself thin, maybe by the end of the day you can have a good night's rest, and the next day will come a little easier.
     
  10. PeterGrip

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    - I spent all my time playing games from age 19 where I dropped out of school to age 24 roughly. That's all I did, because I had a psychosis from smoking too much weed at 19. I got diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia and aspergers syndrome. I've come to believe that at least the aspergers, possibly also the schizophrenia are misdiagnosed, because my understanding of my own emotions was so extremely bad that I actually wanted to have those diagnoses. In any case, I was suffering, I was afraid to see people, I wouldn't answer the phone even if it was my own mom who called because I was so deep down in my own mind and afraid to get out. I've spent countless hours searching myself to get out and have a real life.
    - I lost my virginity at 26 after 3 years of attempting nofap. I've been terrified of women for all my life and pretty fucking oblivious to how things should be done with them. On my first long nofap streak, there was this girl in my class I had a crush on (I was 25 at the time), and I just asked her to be my girlfriend. Apparently, that is NOT how you do it :D I've spent YEARS building social knowledge and skills.

    Nofap didn't magically make me understand myself, stop my bad habits, or attract women. I have worked hard for what I've achieved. NoFap was only leverage to get there, not the solution. There's no magic here.

    I truly know what it means to be underdeveloped. I really believe I get you. And you can get out of it.
     
  11. IGY

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    You have been in therapy since you were 11? o_O

    What are your diagnoses mate?
     
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  12. Hold the Line

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    well tbh more like 12.5-13
    i was diagnosed with anxiety and chronic depression
    i had a rough childhood including my father passing when i was 4
    i was alone most of the time at home playing video games, i had low social skills
    i got slightly bullied at school but for a brief time (and only mental abuse like insults and teases)
    at about age 9-10 i went to a Social Worker, i don't know if there is anything similar where you live but it's similar to a therapist only for younger people and it's free, and i think she tried helping me with my no friends issue, it was a long time ago i can't exactly recall
    anyway at the time before i went to actuall therapy we understood i had some serious problems with mood and always being grumpy, pessimistic, sad, and depressed (at fucking age 12!!!!!!!)
    so i started therapy and got some crappy pills that made me even more tired and numb but after a long time somewhat helped my anxiety, but not my shitty mood and brain self assault
    obviously i'm older now so i developed more social skills and have friends now, but it doesn't matter with my problem that just won't go away
     
  13. dboy18

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    For how long have you been addicted to porn and masturbation?
     
  14. Hold the Line

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    I'm 22 now, i think i discovered porn at around age 10 but only started actual pmo at around age 12, since then i fapped nearly every day, sometimes 2 and 3 times a day.
    Started nofap about half a year ago
     
  15. dboy18

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    i started when i was 12 also, i'm now 29. Started nofap in 2016. looks like the symptoms you have are from pmo.
     
  16. IGY

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    I am truly sorry to hear this. I am wondering if this caused mental problems beyond grief. When a care provider dies, it can make us feel rejected and abandoned. On the surface, that may not seem logical. But we are not talking about the surface here, are we? Emotional invalidation via bullying would exacerbate this.
    This suggests that you were prescribed tranquilisers. These can have these side effects. But it doesn't sound like anything was offered to help with your depression. Antidepressants would not have these side effects. Not every pill will work for everyone, but it is a path you could go down with psychiatric advice.
    What have been the positives, if any, from all these years of therapy?
     
  17. Hold the Line

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    I was on 2 types of medicine: risperidone and cipralex
    one is for the anxiety one is for depression

    What do you mean by positives?
    because besides having less anxiety i still feel pretty bad regularly for nearly a DECADE.
    However my situation was way worse several years ago, i had social anxiety and emetophobia
    which pretty much prevented me from going outside and eating, i was underweight, weighing 55 kg at age 14 i was 1.81m tall
    i recovered my body weight and still look pretty skinny but my bmi is perfectly fine
    i also have less trouble going outside and being in a public place, mind you it was still far from being close to what i want and no one at my age should experiance shit like this, it was really horrible.
    My issues today include bad self talk, very low motivation, like really low, no patience whatsoever so i can't even think about getting a boring job or studying 4 years for a degree or heck, even 3-5 months for a course.
     
  18. Indiahel

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    Maybe you shouldn't do it if you really hate it or maybe take shorter walks 10-20min. I don't know. Sorry to hear that you've been struggling.
     
  19. IGY

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    Cipralex I can understand, because it is an SSRI antidepressant. However, Rispiridone is a very, very heavy drug to use for someone with anxiety. Basically, it is an antipsychotic used primarily to treat schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. :eek:

    You have many, many issues that are very distressing. :( I hope you can find the support you need to overcome them.
     
  20. hiddenvalue

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    channeling those feelings towards any kind of art is really something that would help you know yourself and give you a pathway in life.
    take care.
     

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