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One ejaculation equals 14 pounds of food

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Hopkins, Apr 17, 2021.

  1. Hopkins

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    This may interest you...
    According to Ayurveda, from the digested food chyle is formed. Out of chyle comes blood. Out of blood comes flesh. Out of flesh comes fat. Out of fat comes bone. Out of bone comes marrow. Out of marrow comes semen. Conversion of Dhatuat every step takes a period of five days. Thus semen is the last Dhatu that is formed out of food. It takes approximately 30 days and 4 hours to complete this cycle. Scientists believe that an intake of 32 kgs. Of food produces 800 Gms. of blood, which in turn forms only 20 Gms. of semen.
    Assuming that an ordinary man consumes 32 kgs. Of food in 40 days, yielding 800 Gms. of blood, which in turn will yield only 20 Gms. of semen over a period of one month. A person will be able to accumulate about 15 Gms. of semen in 30 days. And one-month accumulation of semen is discharged in one sexual intercourse..

    Taken from The book of yoga celibacy, page 144.
     
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  2. Thanks for making me feel like shit for relapsing about 20 mins ago lmao
     
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  3. Hopkins

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    What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger, right? ;)
     
  4. Indiahel

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    Looked into this. Healthline says full spermatogenesis takes 64 days and wikipedia 74 days.
    Hole :emoji_poop:, did not know that.
     
  5. modern milarepa

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    It makes sense but I think not amount of food replace seminal discharge it has a special energy which can not be obtain or replace by any amount of nutricious food. But good info nonetheless
     
  6. omw to solve the yemen famine
     
  7. Candun

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    Sounds a little off tbh lol
     
  8. SickSicko

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    According to chinese medicine that's exactly the case.
    On ejaculation you release Jing, "essense", you need Jing to have Yuan Qi, the base of all the energy in the body, as it is an innate thing, impossible or very hardly restored, ejaculation shortens your lifespan, as you lose Jing, and eventually you won't be able to create Yuan Qi, through food and nutrition you only "sustain or support" the Yuan Qi with other types of Qi.
     
  9. Hopkins

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    Ramakrishna said: "The loss of reproductive elements dissipates a person’s strength. But there is no harm in nocturnal emission. That reproductive element is from food. After nocturnal emission, man retains enough to succeed. But he must not lose it voluntarily. What remains after nocturnal emission is very refined. The Lahas stored pots of molasses with holes in the bottom. After a year it was found that the molasses had turned into crystals, like sugar candy. Whatever liquid there was had come out through the holes."
    So maybe he was also pointing out that the Jing can be lost only trough masturbation or sex?
     
  10. SickSicko

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    To be completely honest, the concept of "Jing" is a very complex one, and I'm still struggling to make a strict relation of it with biological medicine, due to it's description points to two things seemgily unrelated on biological medicine, dna and the adrenal glands.

    Sadly there is very few literature that "translates" chinese medicine into biological medicine, as their paradigm and understanding of the bodily functions are very different.

    So perhaps, removing one of those two parts of the equation, the adrenal stimulation, plays a rol on the severity of the consequences between masturbation or sex release, and nocturnal involuntary release, but I'm not entirely sure.
     
  11. Hopkins

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    I don't know much about Chinese medicine, but there's something similar called Ojas.
    "Ojas is a Sanskrit term meaning "vigor," and it is best understood as essential energy for the body and mind. It not only gives tissues strength and endurance, but it protects the health and vitality of cells, thereby influencing all bodily functions and physiological processes.
    The seat of ojas within the body is said to be the heart, and it is composed primarily of water and earth elements. Ojas can be increased, repaired and protected by eating pure and nourishing (sattvic) foods, practicing meditation and developing a balanced lifestyle.
    Within yoga, heart-opening and restful asana can help to fortify and increase ojas."

    "In Raja Yoga, Swami explains that through brahmacharya sex energy is converted into a higher form of psychic energy called ‘ojas.’(Ojas, literally meaning the ‘illuminating’ or ‘bright’ is the highest form of energy in the human body. In the spiritual aspirant who constantly practises continence and purity, other forms of energy are transmuted into ojas and stored in the brain, expressing as spiritual and intellectual power). He says, “The yogis say that part of the human energy which is expressed as sex energy, in sexual thought, when checked and controlled easily becomes changed into ojas, and as the Muladhara (lowest of the six centers of consciousness) guides these, the yogi pays particular attention to that centre. He tries to take up all his sexual energy and convert it into ojas."

    and some nice quote
    "What is the world but a combination of stomach and sex? Look at millions of men and women – that is what they are living for. Take these away from them and they will find their life empty, meaningless, and intolerable. Such are we. And such is our mind; it is continually hankering for ways and means to satisfy the hunger of the stomach and sex. All the time this is going on. There is also endless suffering; these desires of the body bring only momentary satisfaction and endless suffering. It is like drinking a cup of which the surface layer is nectar, while underneath all is poison. But we still hanker for all these things. What can be done? Renunciation of the senses and desires is the only way out of this misery."
     
  12. SickSicko

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    I'm a bit clueless about ayurvedic stuff to be honest, I know about the dosha concept, and something about ojas being refined from food, but not in detail.

    It seems to be a somewhat similar concept, but it has some key differences, being more like a mixture of other concepts from the chinese perspective, to my understanding.
     
  13. Hopkins

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    I don't know which conception came first, but for example Feng shui (chinese geomancy) is somewhat younger (4000 B.C.) than Vastu (Hindu geomancy):
    "The originator of all these ancient sciences is one known as Mayasura of the same tribe that constructed the mayasabha of Mahabharata. But the period is that of Ramayana some 16,000 years ago. (...) He was master in many subjects. Some of these are: Vastu Shastra, Jyotirganita-Surya Siddhanta, Aintiram, ... cartography, fundamental physics, the Brahma principle, the yogashastra etc."
    At the same time this Ying-Yang thing probably originated in Himalayan regions, which are common to both traditions.
    Ojas is considered the most subtle energy man can possess but it's not that easy since seclusion or any other kind of continence or abstinction make it harder to control as the flames goes up and the mind is hardly stable.
    Maybe Jing is just our battery power, like electricity, merging from the heart, searching a way to flow. You can lose it by talking, walking or any other kind of activity and the sex drains it most quickly.
     
  14. modern milarepa

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    Well ramakrishna is quite a master, I doubt he said that. Maybe he did but he is mistaken or only is talking about physiologycal nocturnal emission that happens every 3 months in that case he has a point.
    Any other Indian or Chinese master in brahmacharya or tantra, tao will tell nocturnal emission unless is physiological every 3 months is normal, even masters like sivananda and mantak Chía say the loss of seminal fluid at night creates more energy loss than masturbation because you lose more semen.

    If you lose blood by helping someone or because you cut yourself you can lose the same amount of blood and have an hemorrhagic shock.

    Energy is energy it doesn't matter how you lose it. In this case ramakrishna is wrong unless he refers to physiological nightfall and also that you must learn how to transcend.
     
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  15. SickSicko

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    Yeah, like, from the chinese medicine perspective, ejaculation = lose jing, period.

    Is putting that against with other stuff like ayurvedic or biological medicine that makes it confusing.
     
  16. brassknucks

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    My goodness, a lot of this Semen Retention stuff is getting really Mystical and metaphysical with talks like Brahmacharyan.
     
  17. modern milarepa

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    Ayurvedic is the same, I think the OP has a little confusion. It's the same in terms of energy loss exactly like chinese
     
  18. Hopkins

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    It's not the same thing. Nocturnal emission doesn't hit your brain that hard with all this dopamine cocktail. You can still function normally after that but when you reach orgasm manually your brain gets this foggy state, you lose memory, it's harder to concenrate, name it.
     
  19. modern milarepa

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    Bro don't mix things up if you talk about brahmacharya and ojas then don't talk about dopamine and western medecine, in western medecine it does not apply anything we are talking. I'm a physician in western medecine, we don't recognize the power of semen or energetic body.
     
  20. Hopkins

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    I've said before that ojas is stored in the brain, so naturally when you reach orgasm trough masturbation, you lose this subtle energy, unlike wet dreams which don't do such charm. At least I've personally felt this way many times.
     

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