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How do we Stop Fantasizing?? I Can't Control This!

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Philippian4:13, Apr 29, 2021.

  1. mohaimen

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    ye thanks man
     
  2. Pathofsuccess_1

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    I agree with that last part.

    I haven’t tried meditation, but I know that fantasizing is NOT good. No other way to put it.

    Ive noticed that while fantasizing on streaks, you don’t get even 25% of the benefits of nofap.

    Sure, while abstaining from p and m and o. I’ve still felt benefits like less anxiety, pied cure, and more energy.

    but when eliminating fantasy, or really any sexual arousal altogether. I get all the great benefits.

    euphoria

    way less anxiety

    fast recovery

    even more energy

    clean mind

    healthy vibrant aura and feeling

    etc. I could go on forever.

    it should be called no fpmo. That’s what it is for me anyway.

    sometimes, you may slip up with fantasizing and that might be inevitable, like when it just pops in your head.

    but it’s up to you to choose to get rid of it.
     
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  3. Philippian4:13

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    This is a really interesting idea. Thank you for sharing! I'm going to look into this technique more. The idea of mindfulness and urge surfing really deserves its own separate post.

    The video itself was really helpful. I did some research and found a couple of urge surfing worksheets to share with you. I'm going to try these techniques this week and maybe write a separate update on this.

    "There is plenty of research to show that suppressing a thought feeling or sensation, including pain ultimately increases it. (Clark Ball & Pape 1991, Gold & Wegner 1995, Wegner, Schneider, Carter & White, 1987, Wegner, Schneider, Knutson & McMahon 1991, Cioffi & Holloway 1993) Just try to not think of something in particular."

    https://www.mindfulness.org.au/urge-surfing

    http://www.sharingmindfulness.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/CGTM_Urge-Surfing_handout.pdf
     
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  4. Philippian4:13

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    Thank you for sharing your experience. What I'm looking for are some practical ways other than simple willpower to fight these thoughts. Certain days, willpower is going to be lacking, so what is a more sustainable strategy?

    I often find that the harder I try to not think about these things, the more I naturally start thinking about it.

    Hopefully we can stay FPMO free!
     
  5. StopForever

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    When I was young, 3 or 4 times. It decreases as I am getting older and older.

    Thanks for your kind words. Normally once I pass 60 days. I don't count it anymore. But what I want is 'Stop Forever'. It will take at least 3 years to heal. My problem is my long years of sexual misconduct.

    In fact, I am a Buddhist. I avoid talking about religion. That's why I don't talk about meditation.

    I will stop coming back here soon. Because I may read something which caused me to relapse.
     
  6. Rostrock47

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    May God have mercy on you and good luck! Fight, you will win!
     
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  7. Factpet

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    You are a big fool if you don't sit your ass down and listen to this. Meditation is key for this, all backed up by science here. How else u going to fight this if you don't even know what you are fighting against?
     
  8. Yukhpukh987

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    its normal and at this point you can't control it but with time you will don't feel it. you are worried because you are noticing it. relax and calm down.
     
  9. Factpet

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    It's bullshit that you can't control it.
     
  10. Yukhpukh987

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    then do it and let us know how you did it.
     
  11. Factpet

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    It has been written in this discussion several times already, I also mentioned the meditation part before I shared the video where it's all backed up by science. And it explains how your body takes control over your mind and how you are able to make it the other way around as it should be. I'm on a streak of +150 days, but I reset it every single day as it's always day 1 for me.
     
  12. This is exactly what I needed. All resets I had this year were all after hours of fantasizing. Now P is no longer an issue. Next is to overcome MO post-fantasy.
     
  13. Brokenwings27

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    Theres a reason why porn and deviant fantasy are done in secret. Because they are shameful, full of madness, mentally insane, and twisted.

    Imagine if you acted out those things in public. Telling your fantasies to the girl.

    What would it do to your value as a person, your morale, and your overall integrity? Guess what even when its done in secret it still does that to them. You think because its done in secret you can hide it from your conscience or self esteem but you dont. You carry that same monstrosity of a person you are being into public exposed for the whole world to see without needing to read your thoughts.

    What is it gonna take to realize porn is not beneficial under any circumstance?

    Understand this.

    PORN IS DETRIMENTAL UNDER ALL CIRCUMSTANCES
     
  14. slicn98

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    I have the same problem . I suggest you try to do something or go outside like taking a walk
     
  15. StopForever

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    If you don't find the following useful and waste your time, I am sorry about that. And if you already have your religious faith, and can't accept the Buddhist view, I am sorry to draw your attention. But if you are happy to seek your middle path (or observe your path), the following may be helpful. It is directly dealt with your thought and the Buddhist Five percepts (the third percept - sexual misconduct).

    "If living beings who have much sexual desire constantly and reverently recite the name of Guan Shi Yin Bodhisattva, they will be separated from desire."

    Recorded in Universal Door Chapter, The Wonderful Dharma Lotus Sutra.

    A song we can enjoy and appreciate.




    Besides, Guan Yin Bodhisattva is also very good at meditation. There is a chapter where Guan Yin Bodhisattva teaches us how to meditate.

    http://www.cttbusa.org/shurangama/shurangama_contents.asp
     
  16. luckydog

    luckydog Fapstronaut

    Interesting thread.

    OP, fantasies start in the mind, and of course thoughts can lead to actions. (Okay, let's not talk here about habits, which are actions that are done without a conscious thought.) And these fantasies are choices we make. What you feed, grows. What you starve, dies.

    I used to feed sexual fantasies with porn, which of course leads to escalating types of pornography, given its practically infinite variety and instant availability. If you are married, you bring those fantasies right into the bedroom, and prefer to keep the lights off while having sex with your spouse. Why? So you can use her to get off on your favorite movie playing in your mind. Instead of being aware and sensitive and responsive and in full communication, you are using your spouse as a thing.

    It hurts to write that, because it used to be true. Fantasies objectify women (or men). Attractive females (or males) become body parts for you to use to get off. Pixels on a screen, a person that catches your eye walking down the street, a billboard with a suggestive and attractive model, they can all be used for your private pleasure in your mind. And porn separates and isolates and does nothing to connect you to Real Life. It just numbs you as you play out the fantasy in your mind.

    You are not a robot, nor are you a helpless captive to pre-programmed fantasy thoughts. You have a choice - you choose what you can think about, and what you think about, affects where you are headed.

    There is an old tape series called "Lead the Field" by Earl Nightingale, that takes this one step further. He states unequivocally, 'You become what you think about'. There is a reason pornography is shot at certain angles - it wants to put you in the place of the male actor, so you become that virile stud having sex with a harem in your mind. (See C.S. Lewis on this topic.)

    You become what you think about.

    The choice is up to you.
     
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