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Question for men 35+

Discussion in 'Partner Support' started by Anywherewithyou, May 26, 2021.

  1. eagle rising

    eagle rising Fapstronaut

    It is absolutely similar for the SO of a PA. My wife and I have talked about this extensively. It is hard whenever the connection gets severed. Even the slightest of actions can hurt one or the other. It is like walking through an old house with squeaky boards trying not to make a sound. Inevitably, it happens. Triggers are abound on "both sides".
     
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  2. finite

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    There's a pretty important difference, however.... Because one spouse put them both in that creaky old house and did not respect the marriage enough to address the termites that they cultivated in private. The shared burden is far more terrifying and hurtful when the person you trusted knowingly hurt you and is seemingly entitled to equal sympathy and patience.
     
  3. Anywherewithyou

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    Through sickness and in health becomes more clear in these moments. Life isn't equal or fair and as much as I indulge in self pity, it hasn't helped much.
     
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  4. finite

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    I completely agree. That is really the best attitude. My comment was just a reminder for the other party to remain mindful of where the emotions come from and are possibly of greater difficulty that addicts tend to overlook until they have achieved significant healing. Not to pity the spouse sticking by their side, but that it requires a great deal of loyalty and perseverance to endure hardship brought on by someone else with grace and compassion.( Which appears to be exactly what you are doing, well done!)
     
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  5. Anywherewithyou

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    Yes, I agree that we should all be mindful of the other. I found reading the replies on here a helpful reminder of what my husband is going through as well. My spouse isn't always aware or forthcoming of his inner workings regarding his addiction, so it's good to hear from others. But it is funny you mention that they shouldn't pity us because my husband said yesterday that I must be staying with him because I pity him. He was half kidding but a true enough reflection of his shame.
     
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  6. EyesWideOpen

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    Disregard this last quote. Addicts like to place blame on everyone except themselves.
     
  7. Anywherewithyou

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    Thanks, I bit my tongue on that one. I am certain that it isn't my fault that my husband started pmo 10 years before I met him lol.
     
  8. p1n1983

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    Yeah... so If my partner looses 20 pounds and look like a skeleton or gain 20 pounds and is overweight (both looks been unhealthy) I should be attracted to her the same way i was we she was in good shape? of course not... man are visual creatures. If I met a woman and get attracted to her I will be attracted and have desire to have sex with her while she keep herself around that shape. If she get totally out of shape and stop puting effort on been sexy.. then man are going to be turned down. So... I gave many things that could be happening in his particular case, and is fair to point out this one also that happens a lot.
    As you said, addicts like to place blame on everyone except themselves... and also there are people that also like to do that to not take responsability.
     
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  9. Anywherewithyou

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    You don't need to defend yourself because I know it's true to an extent. But you are lacking a bit of self awareness in your response - time and place. My husband is a recovering porn addict. As I mentioned, his libido hit the floor while he was using and now it's starting to come back. But if you think I haven't questioned every inch of my body since finding out about his addiction, you don't understand what it is to be the SO fully. To have to know what my husband was turned on to and know I can never be some of those things is not a reminder I really need, it's ever present. But regardless, it is true enough that people let themselves go resulting in lowered libido. But I think it's evident that porn was the cause here, not my body.
     
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  10. EyesWideOpen

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    It is never the partner's responsibility when the addict chooses to seek sexual gratification elsewhere. The addict is 100% responsible for his choices.
     
  11. p1n1983

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    If she let herself go and she is no longer attractive to him, how is that his responsability? I'm not saying this is the case here but is a posivility since we don't know them. You are already blaming everything on him before knowing the background.
     
  12. Anywherewithyou

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    Do you mind...?
    I asked specifically for experiences of changes in libido during recovery not for your opinion of why my husband doesn't want sex. I don't care for you to speculate any more on my post.
     
  13. He is responsible for what he does....for his choices. Why do you have to take what's said and twist it into something else? If you have nothing legitimate or helpful to say, why bother?

    Taking responsibility for his actions is called being accountable. It's what addicts in recovery do when they want to get better and repair their marriage.
     
  14. Trobone

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    Wife abusers blame their wives and say it's not their fault they gave their wife a black eye, it's her fault for not getting dinner done on time, or talking to the wrong friends, or having "wrong" opinions.

    That's no different than someone who says they look at porn because their wife gained a couple pounds. If the husband had an issue with that the solution is an honest conversation, not lying and hiding and avoiding.

    Edit: beating you wife and looking at porn are obviously not 100% apples to apples. But the addict blaming the partner/victim is relatable.

    The OP asked for first hand experience about lidibo and upcoming middle age for people quitting porn. Bringing up her body is a distraction that serves no purpose and moves the conversation backwards.
     
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  15. p1n1983

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    Disagree, is important to look at all posibilities. Low libido to her can be a result of porn, and also of her been totally out of shape. Also can be because of stress etc etc. But.. from the first second you asumed is all on him. I'm more open to look at every posivility.
     
  16. p1n1983

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    Not wanting sex comes from low libido. It can be low libido in general, low libido for his partner or no libido for anything that is no porn. If you are not having sex with him is important to see every aspect of it to look for the solution.
     
  17. Trobone

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    We're on a website about quitting porn and the OP asked about that specifically. If you can't stay on topic then maybe you should find a fitness forum.
     
  18. Anywherewithyou

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    Thank you for this. I replied to this guy then deleted and ignored him instead.

    We as the SOs of addicts have critiqued our bodies enough. His responses are just becoming triggers for my anxiety.
     
  19. DefendMyHeart

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    There's a few guys on here like that, unfortunately. When I first started posting here, there were 2 of them that came on different threads to gaslight me. I hope this person doesn't discourage you from continuing to seek advice and support from the rest of the community
     
  20. Anywherewithyou

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    Thank you! I have found some very helpful people and information on here, including yourself. I'll stick around :)
     
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