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Girlfriend wants to wait

Discussion in 'Dating during a Reboot' started by matt2k12, Jun 22, 2021.

  1. matt2k12

    matt2k12 Fapstronaut

    Hey,
    I am catholic and have a catholic girl now. In our religion, sex before marriage is not allowed.
    Couple weeks ago we made out, heavy kissing and touching ... the day after we both felt it was too much. We spoke, and she said she would like to wait .. sex belongs to the marriage after all.
    I agree with her ..
    Yet, everytime we meet, we make out. Heavy tongue kissing, touching, etc.
    I feel like I am trying to seduce her. If she would not have this wall, I know I would have sex.
    I am in a dilemma now. Part of me wants to escalate things and sleep with her, part of me knows for 100% that it is not only wrong, due to our religion, but also because it is wrong of me to .. deceive her, and make her forget about religion.
    I feel like I am evil. I want to f. I want to instill in her the desire to also want to f. Today we were lying in the grass, I was kissing her, her neck, and we were touching all over. Then she sat in my lap for the first time and we continued to make out. After I left her, I had the thought: I am making progress, she sat in my lap.

    Has anyone else been in such a similar situation?

    I know what I should do .. what would be right. I should tell her, we shouldn't make out at all. Yet i am unable to do so .. As i want her .. badly ... my balls are getting heavier and heavier ...

    I feel that, despite our religion, if both agree to have sex .. it wouldnt be that bad. But if she has this stance on it, I feel it is more than evil of me to seduce her to want it too ..
     
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  2. Rents77

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    I sincerely respect everyone religious path, but as an atheist...

    ...join Тhe Dark Side and enjoy your time with her o_O
    (yes, that is a flat out suggestion to proceed)
     
  3. Sean Edie

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    It looks like your main problem is the heavy make out sessions. Try to control yourself with her and "Do not arouse or awaken love until it so desires."
    Song of Songs 2:7b
    Try taking her out somewhere and learning to enjoy each other without making every meet up about making out. It'll be more enjoyable if you connect on a spiritual level before connecting on a physical level
     
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  4. matt2k12

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    haha thanks :D but even as an atheist you should have respect towards other peoples belief.. even if they sound silly to you.. ;)

    thank you .. i actually did that, i didnt even kiss her until 6-7 weeks of dating ... i think the issue im struggling most with, is, that now instead of being able to love her freely, it is more about me trying to get what i want from her .. its all about me ... add to that that i know, that if she eventually drops her resistance and we have sex, i will ultimately hurt her, because then i took away from her what she wanted, that is to wait until marriage .. even if we sleep together now, and even if its her idea, she will ultimately regret it .. and i will be guilty, because i can see all of that, and i know that it was me who step by step seduced her .. it is hard. we go backpacking for two weeks now, we will sleep together in the same locations, and i dont know how i will be able to resist going for what i want ...
     
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  5. Anywherewithyou

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    I'm Catholic too and my husband and I still regret having sex before marriage. It's so much more special within a blessed union. Do you expect to marry her? If so, you'll have your time then. If you don't expect to marry her, then do not try to take her virginity. She can never get it back, obviously. Consider praying about it and even take your temptations to confession before you cannot overcome them anymore.
     
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  6. p1n1983

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    You want it, and she clearly want it too. She is never going begin with it or agree to it. Sex is always the mans fault, she want you to take a step foward and lead the interaction to the bedroom. In every second of the interaction she is capable of stopping you, if she don't do it then guess what? she is all in to procced.

    Something to notice, after having sex or in the next morning she will be mad at you and will throw at you the blame for such a sin you just made, that's were you need to be calm and playfull about it and remember her how bad she was screaming or enjoying herself when you were having sex. Moreover, kiss her again and go at it one more time, be confident and probably you are going to be having sex again seconds later.
     
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  7. Anywherewithyou

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    Are you advising him to manipulate his girlfriend? The mantra that if it feels good do it, has landed a lot of people with a porn or sex addiction. He has morals to live up to and your advice is immoral.
     
  8. erasmus

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    hedonism has really made your heart cold and you show a total lack of respect for another human being by suggesting this.
     
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  9. Rents77

    Rents77 Fapstronaut

    It doesn't sound silly.

    If people don't have a Ikigai, then there's no point to life.
    I just find mines in a different place than religion.
     
  10. erasmus

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    yes but she is not an atheist, and not respecting her wishes is messed up. It reminds me of what Saint Paul said, you are either a slave to christ or a slave to sin.
     
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  11. Sean Edie

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    It's that kind of thinking that's created this world that's obsessed with sex and so many people are addicted. If we look at sex as what it is, we could get rid of all the problems surrounding it and live our lives enjoying all of life and not just sex
     
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  12. erasmus

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    this! our lord wishes for us to experience true hedonism, the one you get from a fulfilled life where you are not a slave to your short term dopamine seeking brain, but where you can be free from it and live your life not constrained by your own evil tendencies.

    who is more free?
    a) a guy addicted to PMO (and "free" to PMO whenever he wants.
    b) a guy who not only watches porn, but lives in a society where it is looked down upon and thus making it harder for him to get addicted.
     
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  13. It's not your whole responsibility. I mean you are not making her sin, it's the decision of both of you... Having said that, did you tell her exactly what you wrote here? I mean struggling with a moral dilemma (religious or not) is a great opportunity for sharing and getting closer.
     
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  14. erasmus

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    this is a simple matter of whether you respect her wishes or not. maybe you should just put a ring on it ;)
     
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  15. brassknucks

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    Did she make Mr.Chad Thunder “wait”? Probably not.
     
  16. DarkHunter

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    My goodness, just go and fu@k with her.
     
  17. matt2k12

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    Thank you so much. This is exactly what I needed to hear!
    At this point I do not want to marry her. If I knew I would marry her, refraining would be so much easier, I guess. But since I don't want it, and still enjoy her company, I want her now, with all that she has, because I know that later I will not see her again. Thats where the temptation comes from probably..

    yes, but given that im older and more experienced i effectively would lead her to sin ... i remember one time when we made out, she backed away, and said that she didnt know the limit to when kissing and touching becomes a sin .. she was basically sitting in my lap and i thought to myself "what were doing here is already pushing the limit too far", i knew it was sinful, but i kept my mouth shut because i wanted her .. so i just asked her "does this feel like sin to you?" (and looking back i feel thats what a serpent would say), to which she replied no, and we proceeded...
    we talked the next the day however, that i mentioned in my first post

    she is virgin
     
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  18. Anywherewithyou

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    I totally understand. I hope you don't mind me saying but I saw that you understand that making out is pushing the boundaries too far, from a Catholic perspective. And dating without the intention to marry is also discouraged. (I know many will scoff at that here, but just wanted to mention it for your sake.) If you are interested in this stuff, Sensus fidelium and specifically Fr Ripperger has good talks on dating and chastity on YouTube.
     
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  19. again

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    You are very right to say this. "it is more than evil of me to seduce her to want it too"
     
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  20. emmaclark

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    Well, all religions prohibit sex before marriage. Nevertheless, everyone has sex without any remorse at all, including me. Do not put pressure on her, if she decides to do this, then let it be her decision.
     

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