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What is Life ? [ THE TRUTH ] ~ Only for Open Minded!

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Mr.Tony, Jul 10, 2021.

  1. This thread is made for people who want to discuss THE TRUTH of our Existance and our Life and Universe, it has nothing to do with anyone's belief, we are discussion what might seem to be the Truth based on Philosophers and Thinkers throughout History! Please of you are not willing to see this thread from an Open Minded Perspective, please refrain from reading it! As this might seem a little provocative to your belief, thank you for your understanding.

    A question that boders me for so long...What is Life ? What is
    it exactly ? Why are we here ? Is there a definitive answer to all of this ? Is there a God ?

    If we are here to believe in Christ, why wasn't I born a Christian to a Christian Family ? If Islam is right, why weren't we all born Muslims ? If hindu is right, we were we all hindus and on and on...

    If you are telling me that we are here to be tested, really ? for what ? what is the reason of being tested ? what is the reason for a disabled kid starving to death in a warzone area to be tested for ?

    When i look to the Universe, I can only see Order! Seriously - The sun, the galaxy, the stars, everything is working Automatically, even our Hearts are functioning ok.

    What is complicating our life is two things: Emotions and Pain!

    These two make us Roleplay the Characters we are born to be, make us really feel and cry out the story we are thrown into!

    I'm starting to believe we are all nothing more than Characters inside a simulated reality!

    If somehow religion is right, at least it will be explained to us within the start as a Tutorial. Not like this, we don't know the goddamn rules of our existance! Every rules are menmade from the invention of time and days and months and years...

    So what the *uck is this life ??? Just a Simulation...No rules to begin with, we are all working so we can pass the torch to the next generation and than fade away ??

    The only thing that seem to change in our lives as Human Specie throughout our History is Technology! Same stories to our own will repeat themselves with different people than us with of course a different technology than ours!

    But all of this for what purpose ??? I don't get it...
     
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  2. With regards to religion being right, over the course of previous 20,000 years we have had like something around 2,000,000 religions. Do you really believe that the previous ones were wrong and only the one in your personal sphere of influence is the correct one? Or they are all the work of particular culture of men, trying to come to terms with the world around them and come up with a system to explain it and control it.

    -J29
     
  3. Why should there be a "purpose"? Isn't the word and the concept a human invention? Why would you think the universe and nature ought to obey our man made concepts?

    -J29
     
  4. When i'll be dying someday on my death bed, I'll most likely believed in a certain belief ( Probably my birth religion ) - But the Truth is - It is only a Belief not the Truth, I only believe in that so i can die peacefully.

    When it comes to the Truth, well that's something i truelly wanna know, because it really made me involved in it, I'm part of this life, part of this experience! I just want to know what it is...why are we here ? What is the purpose of this ? Because seriously, there is no religion i came across that answer logical questions in a logical way! It's all based on a belief! Meaning it is left like that no real answer to why are we here ?
     
  5. I believe in the second statement you mentioned, the base of my thinking process is Logic not Belief!
     
  6. Atticus

    Atticus Fapstronaut

    Aha. You're onto something, friend. :D

    Take out the religious view behind this here: http://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/buddhism/dp01.htm and tell me what do you think.
     
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  7. Well, if you study the origin of universe, stars, planets and life on earth, you will get the answers. Now the only thing remaining is whether you trust science or not. And considering that the smartphone/computer you and I are using at the moment to throw our thoughts around the planet, I would advise you to trust the side of science cuz it delivers and you can see the proofs all around yourself.
    Surely there are new developments with scientific theories, but the good thing about science is that even one person with irrefutable evidence has the power to change the prevalent theories and thus the quest for truth is perpetual.

    -J29
     
  8. I've read a few parts in that link, I didn't really get the idea... sorry my mistake -,-

    It's just weird...this life ? we will die - 100 years from now we will be replaced by new people with similar stories to ours with different names!

    I bet there will be a new group of people fighting Porn again and others creating porn and another guy similar to me asking these questions and another one responding to him similar to you - In every 100 years.

    Just the Technology is changing.. I'm confused up to this point, seriously.
     
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  9. Yes, I believe in Science because it is usually based on Proof.
     
  10. SickSicko

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    Life is life.
     
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  11. But still a Mystery to me and to many others....
     
  12. SickSicko

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  13. Kung_fu_panda_

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    Fake
     
  14. gordie

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    Have you ever read Aristotle? Particularly the Politics? A plurality doesn’t necessary imply all those things are of equal standing. Look at governments: there are superior forms of governments and primitive ones that are not functional, and we don’t believe all of them are equal in being “best,” or even “more suitable.”

    Same with anything, really. And I also don’t think that Christianity being right means that something like Buddhism is totally wrong. I don’t know enough about that religion but I tend to think some have gotten closer to spiritual expression than, say, nature worship, or even some forms of Protestant Christianity like Young Earth Creationism.
     
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  15. Could be in sense.
     
  16. Why we got involved in it since it is a struggle ?

    We never asked to be envolved in it! We were living peaceful all these past years prior to our birth, it's when we were born when the struggle started! Maybe same happens when we die, we will only turn back to our original state of peace.

    Did you feel anything during world war 1 & 2, have you felt anything during the Holocausts ? Have you felt the pain that people had gone through ? No! Why ? Well because you were here... So why are we here now ? And not in the pasta nd not the future ? Why am i me ? And why you are you! We aren't we role reversed ??

    You got the point ? It's philosophical question! Not many ask such questions, because honestly people have choosed to Roleplay their Characters without Asking questions, personaly i don't get this whole point of life.

    The only thing that seem logic in my side. Is that maybe we are the grand grand fathers of a future generation of mankind that managed to create a simulated reality of us, maybe all of this is just virtual and we are only living in some sort of computer or something... Everything around us is running by Math! Pure Math.

    This universe itself is going under a certain order! On the surface it seem like it is un-organized but it's not! Everything is indeed organized!

    So if it's the case ? Why are we here ? If someone / some group of creatures created this! Than why haven't they explained the rules to us, the rules of our existance! Unless we were the one tested in a sort of simulation, it's a Lab Rat is waiting for the Scientist to explain to him why is there, He's already been observed under a certain research whether he like it or not! He doesn't owe any explanation to his owner, I think a similar case is happening here to us.
     
  17. palindromo

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    ''We are survival machines, robot vehicles blindly programmed to preserve the selfish molecules known as genes. This is a truth which still fills me with astonishment.''

    From : The Selfish Gene (1976) preface

    Finding answers to questions like '' why are we here '' is an entirely human concept. We are cluster of cells
     
  18. What about the Pain and Suffering that Mankind felt ? was it also part of that ?
     
  19. Why does existence exist? How could all of this come from nothing. You may reject religion but I find it amazing that people just think existence exists.

    There are things outside reason and human thought and capacity sometimes illustrated in riddles like:

    I am from Crete, and I tell you all men from Crete are liars.

    or

    If God is all powerful can he create a stone so heavy he cannot lift it?

    Free will. Many believe the answer is in us, it's our free will towards selfishness that keeps us from enlightement.

    What do you watch and do for entertainment?
    violent video games that simulate killing people? Watching violent movies? (I am not saying this judgementally only to illustrate! I for example watch violent movies too!)

    Order comes from....?

    Whose simulated reality? A creator?

    Technology is 'neutral' fire can warm us or burn us. technology does is amplify our capacity for evil, unfortunately more than good, though it certainly can bring a lot of good. The internet and this forum for example help us come together to heal but the worst human tendencies are amplified by technology. A mad guy on the street is just a mad guy, a mad guy who shows his aggression in a 2000lb vehicle is a menence.

    People searching for technological 'solutions' to problems of the human heart (trust, truth, kindness love) are barking up the wrong tree. Did you know when the airplane was first invented many people were led to believe it would make wars impossible? In fact, I believe the inventors even got a nobel peace prize.

    I don't think many people believe that , except some atheists -think of its progression more like how humans have evolved to reject slavery, reject human sacrifice, reject infanticide, and blood sports for entertainment , to reject inherited authority (though the existence of this throughout history is somewhat exaggerated). The early church fathers for example, found much to draw from from pagan philosophers like Plato who they saw as foreshadowing Christianity.

    Well that's not how people who believe them see them and certainly it has not been good for control in fact Christianity for example (and Islam to an extent too) seems to thrive with oppressed people - it was popular with roman slaves for example. And often the moral teachings were in direct conflict with authoritarian rulers.
     

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