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Sex Addicts Anonymous?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by FapensteinsMonster, Feb 18, 2014.

  1. FapensteinsMonster

    FapensteinsMonster Fapstronaut

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    I'm just wondering how many NoFappers here have also attended any S.A.A. meetings?

    (for the record, if anyone is interested in locating a meeting, you can go to: saa-recovery.org )

    I recently re-started my NoFap journey after a nearly two month long relapse period. I was doing fairly well with NoFap for a while and then it's like it all went out the window. PMO'ing nearly every single day. Wasting time, falling into the same old patterns again. I'd always considered SAA but never took the leap until now.

    I've attended 3 meetings since 2/14 and I have to say, they have helped me tremendously. When you're so deep into porn and sex addiction, you think about all the things you've done, and some of them make you feel like the biggest pervert on earth, that something MUST be wrong with you. You wonder if your moral compass is broken or whether you ever had one at all.

    Then you talk to other people. People who have done the exact same things you have done and worse. Felt the exact same level of guilt and shame about what they've done. No one there judges you, they all accept you and they accept that you've done wrong, you've hurt yourself and loved ones, but by being in that room, they all know that you're serious about getting help and you want to change.

    Having someone, a few someones to tell your journey face-to-face with takes much of the mystique out of PMO and sexual acting out. You work the traditional 12-Step Program just as you would in A.A. It's work and a lot of reading but you gain some very valuable insights into this disease we all have and ways to fight it.

    I'm just wondering if there are any others here who have actually gone to an SAA meeting? If so, did it help you at all? NoFap is great, but I think I personally needed more. NoFap combined with SAA might give me the resolve I need to beat this thing.
     
  2. Treason

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    I went to some SLAA back in 2008 after a relationship breakup. At that time I was a bit resistant of (my imagined) bottom line (no sex outside a loving relationship) and so didn't stick around for too long.

    I'm considering another stint, but not sure yet, I have to weigh up whether I want to go down the 12 step path again and whether it will really benefit me. I do think a lot of it may be a little too "one size fits all" rather than viewing people as individuals.
     
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2014
  3. MoonUser

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    I have not attended SAA but have attended others. They are helpful. I do think you are right about how much it helps to be in a place where you are not "shamed" or made to feel like a second-class citizen. NF is really a great starting point for most of us, but strength in numbers helps a lot.
     
  4. Staal

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    well, heres a site about Alcoholics Anonymous for you..

    http://www.orange-papers.org/

    That might go for S.L.A.A too. It didn't do shit for me, and theres a bunch of crazies there.
     
  5. Treason

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    I believe that 12 step recovery programmes do have a100% success rate, but only for the people who are willing to surrender to all their principles.

    What I mean is, if you surrender to a spiritual "higher power", work the steps, get a sponsor and regularly attend meetings it's unlikely that you'll ever relapse - but the majority of people don't want to do that for a number of reasons, and that's where the failure rates come in.

    The success of any programme, whether it's recovering from addiction or learning to drive, depends on how much effort is put into doing it - if you don't put in the foot work you won't see results.

    I got clean from drug addiction through NA, and I'm still drug-free nearly three decades later - at the time I walked through that door I was fucked, I was willing to do whatever it took and it was the only option I had available. I did what they told me and it worked for me. I still think they're occasionally flawed in their approach, I just set aside my reservations and took the stuff I needed.
     
  6. FapensteinsMonster

    FapensteinsMonster Fapstronaut

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    Well that site is organized in such a haphazard way and basically just a bunch of links, an ADD person like myself can't make head's or tails out of it.

    But if someone is attempting to debunk A.A. or any other 12-step programs, I can only speak from personal experience.

    My wife is actually a recovering alcoholic. I attended A.A. meetings with her for a number of years, stood by her and helped her as she worked through the steps. At the end, she emerged, stronger, more confident and with absolutely ZERO desire to have a drink ever again.

    Her father and his brother were long-time alcoholics and A.A.turned their lives around as well. One or both of them would probably be dead by now were it not for their determination to get better and their involvement with A.A.

    Is it "snake oil" or a "placebo"?...possibly. But so what? If it works and you end up a better, stronger person in the end, living addiction free, then who gives a fuck if it's "genuine" or not? Aside from throwing a buck or two in the basket at every meeting, they cost very little money, they do not profit from you, so is anyone really being harmed?

    I totally agree with Treason. You only get out of it what you put into it. If you're not serious about it and willing to attend the meetings and remain determined and committed to healing and escaping your addiction, then of course you're going to fail.
     
  7. Staal

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    try typing Alcoholics Anonymous Fraud in google.. there's so much debunking of AA.
     
  8. Treason

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    If you're that way inclined you can find evidence for or against anything - it all depends on the reasons you're looking.

    Try googling "masturbation is healthy" for instance...
     
  9. fappingendsnow!

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    Hi All,

    I have been in AA and NA for 16 years now, and have read the debunker stuff, usually it's people who've taken things out of context, and misunderstood them. The debunkers are usually atheists, who are in ego consciousness, they are stuck in their intellects, and don't pick up the nuances and paradoxes in the 12 step program.
    To be fair though sometimes they have a point in some of the things they say. All the anti 12 step stuff is American, in the USA there are more people, so there are more stories of bad apples in these fellowships.

    12 step fellowships are based on spiritual principles, they are for people who are damaged and not spiritual themselves,yet anyway, although they have the tools in the steps to begin on a spiritual journey.
    When you hear something said at AA or NA or whatever, that is just the opinion of someone there, with their interpretation of things.
    I have never been to SAA, but I have a friend who goes regularly. some say it's brain washing, but we are all brainwashed from the moment we are born, and the 12 steps, and other spiritual practices help to unravel that.Personally I do as much as I can to that end.
     
  10. jeffnofapp

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    SAA is amazing, especially if you live in a city with lots of meetings. Been going for several years. It's incredibly supportive. Strongly recommend.
     

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