Nofap progress and sex during reboot question

Hey. I'll share some thoughts.

The most important part is not a consent, medication or whatever. The most important part is to know, what is your problem, what is the addiction you're fighting with. For someone who's socially awkward and isolate himself to watching P might be (healthy) sex absolutely fine, if not helpful. For someone who's sex addict more than P addict the story is completely different.

And I know its not always easy to distinguish those things. Maybe you can ask yourself a question: "Do I want this in my life? Do I want to be THIS person?"
- do I want to spend life watching P? NO
- do I want to make love to this girl? YES
- do I want to do this kinky stuff with her? NO (well I do, but I don't this shit in my life)
For someone who's sex addict the question might be like:
- do I really want to have sex with different person every night?
- do I really want to have sex 3 times a day?
etc.
This might help you find the line whats alright for you and what is not.

Things can get even more complicated. Maybe some healthy behaviour might trigger some of your addictive behaviour. It's up to you to recognize if it's healthy or unhealthy for you.

I don't know about the pills. Sometimes you might have a health problem and then it might be helpful and even necessary for you. But chances are, considering your PMO issue, it's just mental issue. In that case I am not sure the pills even help you. Personally I think better would be to avoid to pills. Obviously you still need to reboot a little more. If it don't work it don't. Anyway that doesn't make any other forms of intimacy impossible.
I can imagine how hard it is for one's ego and confidence and its really unfortunate. But if you ask about recommendation, this is the best way IMO.

And about tracking. Well it's just a tool. It doesn't say anything about your health and mental state. For someone it might be challenging to have 100+ days clean streak and it really helps them to stay completely clean. But it also might be discouraging when you reset it and starts again. It's up to you and what fits you the best. Sometimes you need to go more easy on yourself in order to get better results, sometimes the bar is just too low and you could do better. The goal is still the same. Try to avoid the wrong behaviour and try to be the best version of yourself. Nothing else matters.

Stay strong and good luck, man

 

I cured my PIED. Sex might set you back but I'm not sure. If you try and still have pied then continue longer without pmo or sex. Don't worry about the counter and resets and whatnot. Just don't pmo. Don't even mo without porn. If you think the problem might be anxiety from previous failures then I don't see harm in trying pills for that. The goal is to not rely on them. It might take longer than 90 days to heal. Don't worry. If you try and still have pied go longer until you try again until you have success. Just don't pmo or mo and don't lose hope. It works you just have to figure out how it's going to work for you.

 

My suggestion:
60days is too short for such a long exposure to porn.
You are definitely in for a long streak. A streak without pmo or attempts with a partner.

Bare minimum 6 months. But my advice is1 year.

And by then some level of MW should return. start using pills with your partner to break free of the mental crutch and to jus boost up your confidence. Use it for few weeks or months and wean off it and by the time u wean off. You might end up having sex without even taking the pills as sometimes things heat up unplanned.(this has happened in a success story to another pied recovery guy) this whole thing is the rewiring phase.

All these advice comes from a 31 year old Severe pied guy 15 years of usage and 10 years high speed internet porn,
who has been abstaining from porn 1.5 years and mo for 10 months.

And I have been taking daily ed pills 5mg. For the last two months. Which has helped my morning wood a lot and regaining my penil tissue health and size.

But I am not planning to attempt sex until Dec.

So on the results end I don't have much. But so far I am in a better place mentally though I struggle with sleep on and off which was one the biggest struggle in early recovery.

Hope this helps.

 

You should do a 90 day reboot and then start having sex. Sex does not reverse recovery, but it does slow it down. YBOP experts guesstimate that the quickest way to recover from PIED is a 90 day reboot and then rewire period, which normally lasts 2-3 months before you gain normal sexual function.

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Am taking them at night before sleep. So throughout night when I have nocturnal erections it will aid in having better ones. Also, helps in better morning woods.
Which helps in regaining penile tissue health that I have lost over the years. And the flaccid size as well. And everyday I wake up with a good MW though I lose them right away. It still helps my mood.
But the most important thing here is sleep. If I didn't sleep early and have a good night's sleep. I end up having mediocre NW and MW. And I feel not so good that day.
Everyday Blue pill of 5mg is generally given to ED patients and most of them who consumed it for 6months regained their function.

Though my issue is mental. As my arousal template is jus short circuited.
The pills are only to keep the circulation, tissue health and size in healthy levels during sleep. Because in the day time I have no movement down there. Jus dead.

We have NW and MW as engine checks happening during sleep to keep the penile tissue and the circulations healthy.

In the last 10 years I have not had the best ones and it keep declining to a point where I didn't get NW MW. That's when my depression set in.

Now each day seems to be with a positive start. And when I look at the mirror it looks way better than how it was in the last 3 years.

And its not harmful in anyway. Ppl are scared to take it reading the exception cases with side effects but many use it without a issue even for long durations.

My goal is to use it for 6 months. Already 2 months in. 4 more to go. After which I'd think aboout dating again. And at that time I might take the bigger dose jus the first few times until I regain my arousal template and confidence.
And then stop entirely.

I consider myself as the guy from Dallas buyers club.
No doctors to help us. No medicine.
Am just trying what makes sense to me.
Experimenting with whatever seems to be the best option.
Also I spoke to a member modern milarepa who is a physician...you might have come across his posts.
I kinda had a chat with him and he seemed very positive about my idea and suggested I should do this.

 

I have been severely deficient of it since my early 20s and I am still deficient.
I have just ordered for good supplements.
Do you think it could be the deficiency?
Or the addiction withdrawal combined with vit d deficiency that's fucked up my sleep big time??

 

I will give this a shot. Though I tried earlier in my reboot it did not work for me.
Maybe now that I sleep a bit better. I'd give this another shot. Many have reported the same benefits. So it should be worth it I guess.

And regarding arousal, it gives me so much relief that you have your arousal back.
I haven't tried with a girl yet amd not for another 5 months.
Though I have been abstinent there's nothing that arouses me anymore. It scares the shit outta me.
I guess I have to introduce intimacy again to rewire my brain. And glad to know that it took such a short time for you to get it back. I jus hope its the same with me.

 

If you let me, I'll answer one of your questions with another different question.
Would sex be harmful? Well... How would you get ready for war with the gun locked in the basement?

Many people here are against sex. They joined the NoFap journey because they wanted to solve some problems or overcome a porn dependency, but how are you going to learn a new skill if you only do the theoretical part?

The problem is that there is a wrong idea about sex, maybe because of porn, but that's something that can be relearned.
You said you realized you had PIED last year, so how did the problems start?